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Zifnab posted:Rumors circulating that Harvin tried to fight Russel Wilson this last week, also that he punched Tate in the face right before the Superbowl Yeah neither of these things leaking (especially the Super Bowl thing) is about as likely as the government being able to cover up placing bombs in WTC 7 and then using a bunch of Saudi extremists to fly planes into 1 WTC and 2 WTC as cover for the demolition.
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unless harvin helped hernandez bury the bodies this trade is loving indefensible and i hope lynch drunk drives into bevell's face and gets away with it
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football fuckerman posted:mhm. mhm. mhm. mhm. Gosh when you put it that way it's almost like they fuckin fleeced the Jets and made out like bandits. Flat out robbed them of that fourth round pick or whatever The Jets didn't make a good trade, no matter how bad Seattle overpaid for Harvin. Buying low and gliding even lower isn't any better an investment strategy.
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harvin trade was an inside job. teams don't just collapse like that. bevell did 10/12
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football fuckerman posted:Harvin failed to show up for work on so many important days that Pete Carroll is convinced he's Jewish but then why would you trade him? You will know exactly when an attack is about to happen.
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Remember when everybody was laughing at the Browns for the Trent Richardson trade about this time last year I think this could end up going the same way that went
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Gerund posted:The Jets didn't make a good trade, no matter how bad Seattle overpaid for Harvin. Buying low and gliding even lower isn't any better an investment strategy. It's a conditional pick. The Jets get to give him a trial and if he fucks up hey no pick to Seattle and Harvin is a free agent.
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anime gently caress pillow posted:I don't understand the following: -It's a business but even business has a lot to do with relationships. If you tell your coach to gently caress off repeatedly or demand to leave (or whatever he was doing) you tend to get shipped out and you tend not to come back no matter what a "fleecing" that would represent.
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Gerund posted:The Jets didn't make a good trade, no matter how bad Seattle overpaid for Harvin. Buying low and gliding even lower isn't any better an investment strategy. Are you kidding me this is a fantastic trade for the Jets organization. Costs them nothing now and Rex Ryan and John Idzik are probably going to get canned unless they start winning games. Literally no risk for them considering they're 1-6 right now. And if it doesn't work out it's someone else's problem
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Adun posted:Yeah neither of these things leaking (especially the Super Bowl thing) is about as likely as the government being able to cover up placing bombs in WTC 7 and then using a bunch of Saudi extremists to fly planes into 1 WTC and 2 WTC as cover for the demolition. Its harder to accept that the people at or near the top are incompetent, so people create outlandish scenarios that presume widely-held stereotypes.
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Chris James 2 posted:Remember when everybody was laughing at the Browns for the Trent Richardson trade about this time last year I don't think so. Jets aren't on the hook for any guaranteed money afaik, so they can cut him for nothing.
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Chris James 2 posted:Remember when everybody was laughing at the Browns for the Trent Richardson trade about this time last year I am nominally a Jets fan and I like the trade just because the games might be watchable now, I agree it's no massive coup or anything.
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Chris James 2 posted:Remember when everybody was laughing at the Browns for the Trent Richardson trade about this time last year Depends on the conditions I'd think. If it's set up right than either Harvin will be good for them and they traded a second for a good player, or they took a shot on an explosive guy for a fourth rounder. Even if Harvin Moss's his way out of New York in three weeks it doesn't seem as bad as a first for Richardson.
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TubeStank posted:It's a conditional pick. The Jets get to give him a trial and if he fucks up hey no pick to Seattle and Harvin is a free agent. Conditional could mean a 4th-round floor, too. Adun posted:Are you kidding me this is a fantastic trade for the Jets organization. Costs them nothing now and Rex Ryan and John Idzik are probably going to get canned unless they start winning games. Literally no risk for them considering they're 1-6 right now. And if it doesn't work out it's someone else's problem You assume too much of the Jets organization.
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Chris James 2 posted:Remember when everybody was laughing at the Browns for the Trent Richardson trade about this time last year At least the Browns got a first round pick back
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Chris James 2 posted:Remember when everybody was laughing at the Browns for the Trent Richardson trade about this time last year Except it's not comparable to that at all except insofar as players were traded?
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Schwack posted:https://twitter.com/LanceZierlein?s=09 The black eye thing is some real truther poo poo Also: quote:Lance Zierlein @LanceZierlein · 21m 21 minutes ago
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So we let Tate walk because we have Harvin... who we ship out for a pack of donuts and a used sock midseason. Well gently caress it at least we won a Super Bowl!
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Gerund posted:Conditional could mean a 4th-round floor, too. It's OK to say your team hosed up!
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Schwack posted:https://twitter.com/LanceZierlein?s=09 quote:Here are two tweets I just got from NFL personnel guys: “Literally heard minutes ago what you tweeted. Crazy. Jets didn’t do their homework" hm yes the Jets GM is the sucker who didn't do his homework about Harvin
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Gerund posted:Conditional could mean a 4th-round floor, too. I thought someone had confirmed it was a 4th round floor, 2nd round ceiling. I could be terribly wrong though.
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There's nothing to suggest Harvin won't be great in a non-Bevell coached offense. He had 1300 yards from scrimmage in 2011 and was a midseason MVP candidate in 2012 pre-injury when he had the likes of Christian Ponder, Joe Webb, and the embalmed corpse of Donovan McNabb throwing to him. If he actually does downfield routes he'll somewhat succeed even with Geno. Schneider definitely lost both trades, but I still don't hold that against him because Harvin was used so, so poorly. It really can't be stressed enough how irredeemably bad Bevell has handled him throughout his career. Prozach fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Oct 18, 2014 |
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TubeStank posted:It's OK to say your team hosed up! Prozach posted:There's nothing to suggest Harvin won't be great in a non-Bevell coached offense. He had 1300 yards from scrimmage in 2012 when he had the likes of Christian Ponder, Joe Webb, and the embalmed corpse of Donovan McNabb throwing to him. If he actually does downfield routes he'll somewhat succeed even with Geno. The Schneider-Carroll Seahawks have a long history of falling in love with players that aren't in the building and getting buyer's remorse immediately after. See Whitehurst, Charlie; Williams, Mike (fat); Carpenter, James (and others) Still doesn't mean that the act of cutting losses can't be leveraged into a win out of a bad situation. Today's trade is the Russell Wilson Bullshit to which the original trade is drafting and starting James loving Carpenter.
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NOBODY IS FLEECING ANYBODY IT'S A STUPID TRADE ALL ROUND ALRIGHT NOW TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND LOOOOOOOOOL
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Trading for him was obviously a gently caress up, but if he was truly that much of a problem it makes sense to move on ASAP. If this gives the team the chance to keep some lbs I'll be happy. I still think Harvin can be great in this league, but I'm not sure the Jets will give him the chance.
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I was looking forward to the prospect of a dynamic Seahawks offense with creative plays designed around Lynch, Harvin, and Wilson - more than anything, I'm just bummed that we'll be missing out on that, even if those plays only materialized for short instances this season. Sunken costs aside, what a terrible misuse of exciting talent. It's really a shame that this is happening so early in the season, must have been some terrible off-field drama.
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shiksa posted:hm yes the Jets GM is the sucker who didn't do his homework about Harvin The well run org know as the New York Football Jets
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lmao poor Russell Wilson getting bullied by other players. First Tate now Harvin, football game Drake over here (i still love you russ)
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Chris James 2 posted:Remember when everybody was laughing at the Browns for the Trent Richardson trade about this time last year Nah, the worst that could happen is that this blows up for both teams. Seattle traded a 1st and 3rd to get him, and are only getting a 4th (at most) back.
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I'm just posting there because I need to. The CFL game on ESPN2 had a score of 4-1 with five seconds left in the first half. The NFL needs the rouge.
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Bad Moon posted:The well run org know as the New York Football Jets Traded a conditional pick for a talented yet troubled player with no guaranteed money on the hook after this year. The Seahawks, on the other hand...
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shiksa posted:Traded a conditional pick for a talented yet troubled player with no guaranteed money on the hook after this year. The Seahawks, on the other hand...
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seiferguy posted:Nah, the worst that could happen is that this blows up for both teams. Seattle traded a 1st and 3rd to get him, and are only getting a 4th (at most) back. Thats wrong unless the twitterz just posted something different than Clayton: 4th floor, 2nd ceiling.
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Crazy Ted posted:I'm just posting there because I need to. The CFL game on ESPN2 had a score of 4-1 with five second left in the first half. The NFL needs the rouge. how the gently caress do you get only 1 point
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I recognize the urge to make a morality play out of everything but it's usually a bad way to look at things. It's a win-win trade. The Seahawks hosed up to let Harvin get this malcontent but he's supposedly prone to that sort of thing and poo poo happens so however things got that bad it's in Seattle's interest to get what they can for him. The Jets are rolling the dice a bit but the buy-in isn't that high and tanking to get higher in the draft can gently caress up your organization more than it's worth. (And I daresay they could still lose a lot of games!)
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quote:"I really don't have words to describe how I feel. I was talking to coach Carroll, I haven't slept in three days just anticipating this opportunity."
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pangstrom posted:I recognize the urge to make a morality play out of everything but it's usually a bad way to look at things.
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