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Tailored Sauce posted:Mind you this is the 1950s, were "serial clown killers" a thing back then? Surely now we see this and think, he's a killer, but put in the mindset of an upper class white woman in the 50s maybe something is different enough that it makes sense. This might make sense if he wasn't wearing someone else's scalp and covered in blood. I don't think it matters too much whether he is in a clown suit or not at that point.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:"There's no evidence that gay parents are worse than straight parents! Yes, I'm going to have to jump on the Murphy gay rights tryhard train (and I'm gay as they come). It's really cringe-worthy sometimes how he tries to shoehorn "LGBT people are people too!"-type stuff into places where that dialogue is not needed. He's like that person in the back of Poli Sci 101 who constantly raises their hand to go on social justice rants intended to remind everyone to "check their privilege" before commenting on any kind of political issue. Like nearly 95% of AHS fans would disagree completely with the statement "Poofs are even lower than us freaks", so what was the point in putting it in there? What was the point, even, of making those three guys gay anyway? It served no purpose at all. Their sexuality contributed nothing to the scene. I do have to say that I loved Lana in S2 and she was my favorite character on the show thus far. Zachary Quinto's character in S1 was a bit too strange for me to appreciate (and it's the same with Kurt from Glee at this point). Maxy Boy posted:Why can't people realise that this show is meant to be camp / nonsensical / illogical and that's why it's so enjoyable? Oh and this too. Murphy is camp, plain and simple. AHS is pretty much the campiest show on TV right now. It's pastiche. You're not supposed to question why things happen. Just accept it and enjoy it. It is a perfectly valid way to write. Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Oct 18, 2014 |
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So I hear Emma Roberts is showing up soon. I guess I have to live with that. Not a big fan of her character last season. In general the actress just gets on my nerves. Although she was adorable as Nancy Drew years back.
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I watch this show not for any sensical plot but for the individual scenes. If you try to make sense of the plot you're going a little far for something this campy. I'm loving it so far and find Twisty really the most interesting part so far. I also thought the music numbers were really well done and looking for historical accuracy in them is just taking the source material way too seriously.
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MadSparkle posted:So I hear Emma Roberts is showing up soon. I guess I have to live with that. I fear she's being typecasted as "the bitch" after scream 4. She plays it great, but yeah, Madison was my least favorite character last season.
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LadyPictureShow posted:I'm sure it was mentioned in the first episode, but eff if I can remember. Do the people locked up by Twisty have names that were mentioned in-show? I've just been calling them lady and boy. I'm hoping they make it out safely/get saved by the freak show, but considering it's AHS... The girl is Bonnie and the boy is Corey. Source: I've been watching with subtitles to make sure I didn't miss any dialogue.
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A. Beaverhausen posted:I fear she's being typecasted as "the bitch" after scream 4. She plays it great, but yeah, Madison was my least favorite character last season. I think people are getting tired of the super bitch trope in general. I've caught a little of that Red Band Society on FOX, and the cheerleader immediately insults the breath of the orderly wheeling her into the hospital, calls the anorexic girl "Skeletor," and hits the call button on the comatose kid's bed just to get someone to come and get her more water. And of course, her parents are away on a trip/business meeting when she's admitted and her heart is failing, so cue the sad face and the tough front and the classmates pitying her, etc. I was actually pretty impressed when they killed off Madison in episode 2, but it was only to have her come back and resume her bitchery without ever really gaining any character development. Her character this season seems no different and like it was included simply to give her a part.
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Maxy Boy posted:Why can't people realise that this show is meant to be camp / nonsensical / illogical and that's why it's so enjoyable? Captain Mog posted:Oh and this too. Murphy is camp, plain and simple. AHS is pretty much the campiest show on TV right now. It's pastiche. You're not supposed to question why things happen. Just accept it and enjoy it. It is a perfectly valid way to write. If this thread was about Adam West Batman instead: "I want to like this show, but when they have cheesy stuff like Batman figuring out that Riddler poisoned the sea because giant blue letter C fell on the mayor it really starts to hurt the show's plausibility".
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Oct 19, 2014 02:22
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It looks like Roberts' character has a much milder temperament this time around, but this is coming from a total starry-eyed stan, so we'll see when she actually shows up. Also... How did that guy get hosed in the rear end while loving Desiree in the vagina? I need a graph or something.
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Mr. Kennedy posted:I think you guys are arguing about the minor things and missing the big question. How bad do you think Twisty smells? The smell alone from his rotting pumpkin mouth had to have made Dandy's mom pull over at least 4 times to puke or ride dog style head out the window. And what does he eat? I keep saying this but nobody will acknowledge it, he is wearing somebody elses scalp as a wig.
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I just found out that John Carroll Lynch (Chief's husband in Fargo, Drew's brother on the Drew Carey Show) plays Twisty.
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Mr. Kennedy posted:I think you guys are arguing about the minor things and missing the big question. How bad do you think Twisty smells? The smell alone from his rotting pumpkin mouth had to have made Dandy's mom pull over at least 4 times to puke or ride dog style head out the window. And what does he eat? He feeds off of the smiles and laughter of children. You can pretty easily figure out why this is a problem. Twisty is so hungry...
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TrekBek posted:It looks like Roberts' character has a much milder temperament this time around, but this is coming from a total starry-eyed stan, so we'll see when she actually shows up. Did they say he was getting hosed in the rear end? I just thought her having a dick was enough.
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OmegaBR posted:when they killed off Madison in episode 2, but it was only to have her come back and resume her bitchery without ever really gaining any character development. Her character this season seems no different and like it was included simply to give her a part. Agreed. And....Ehh, let's hope this doesn't happen this season...I mean, no Lily Rabe plus Emma Roberts being just 'bitchy' as a character trait without anything else to define her would be really annoying. I think my favorite female characters so far are are Kathy Bates and that's pretty much it. Evan Peters is also wonderful, but that's not surprising. He's always got that quality in all his characters each season where I feel he just needs to be spooned for a while. Ladeled.
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Oct 19, 2014 04:20
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Remember that theory that Grace might be a werewolf in Asylum? They should have brought back Lizzie Brocheré as one of those people with hypertrichosis (thick hair all over face/body.)
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I'm pretty sure they're filming most of this season in a rural area of the Westbank of the Mississippi River, like 20 minutes outside of downtown New Orleans. All the freakshow camp parts, at least. They're still filming this season because friends of mine see cast members around town and take orders for the whole cast at their jobs and stuff. So if that's the case, yeah, there are gonna be some geographical features specific to this area that they're gonna try and pass off as Florida. The only thing they care about is the name. We have a Jupiter and a Mars, want to bet that we get the other planets?
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Oct 19, 2014 06:24
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I got it. The next season will be set in Chicago , in the 20's. Murphy is going to redo Fosse's Chicago. I want Lily Rabe in a black wig as Velma Kelly. Sarah Paulson as Roxie. I want to see them do a new, horrific version of Cell Block Tango.
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WeLandedOnTheMoon! posted:The only thing they care about is the name. We have a Jupiter and a Mars, want to bet that we get the other planets? Maybe we will be getting aliens next season. Shame I don't find them scary at all, but it is a very American thing.
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Area 51 would be a logical next step, and I'd love to see what they'd do with it.
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If they wanted to do something a little different (like a freak show set in Florida,) they could give an alien setting something like Marfa, Texas. The city is famed for the "Marfa lights" that appear in the sky east of it, ascribed to be UFOs, ghosts, Will-o'-the-wips, etc. It's also about an hour away from the Mexican border, so you could include some of that lore, like the chupacabra. Plus, an army airfield that served as a training facility for thousands of World War II pilots, including the chemical mortar battalions (potential for incidents, ghosts.) Minimalist Donald Judd also moved there in 1971 and began permanently installing his art beyond a museum, acquiring a military fort (perhaps he could be a side character, angering said ghosts.)
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Behind the scenes interviews with the "Freaks" of the freakshow Jyoti Amge "Ma Petite" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6Id7MePriw Mat Fraser "Paul the Illustrated Seal" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i31PhBTlTWA Ben Woolf "Meep" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9HtWL6zlwU Erika Ervin “Amazon Eve” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpR03RfBeOA
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I live in Miami and there are places that were empty fields 15-20 years ago so I imagine Jupiter was not much to see 60 years ago (re: oysters saying it looks nothing like that). I don't know about the Spanish miss though. I also found the indian woman's violin hilarious because I want her to play it when people complain. Area 51 is a good direction but Murphy said specifically the first two episodes had clues. The first ep mentioned Jupiter and Mars and I'm sure every episode will continue to do so. Then again, Ryan Murphy.
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American space station horror set in the near future would be awesome too, or a large (arc)ship set to colonize/investigate the solar system and beyond. I'd just really like some sci fi in American Horror Story.
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OmegaBR posted:If they wanted to do something a little different (like a freak show set in Florida,) they could give an alien setting something like Marfa, Texas. The city is famed for the "Marfa lights" that appear in the sky east of it, ascribed to be UFOs, ghosts, Will-o'-the-wips, etc. It's also about an hour away from the Mexican border, so you could include some of that lore, like the chupacabra. Plus, an army airfield that served as a training facility for thousands of World War II pilots, including the chemical mortar battalions (potential for incidents, ghosts.) Minimalist Donald Judd also moved there in 1971 and began permanently installing his art beyond a museum, acquiring a military fort (perhaps he could be a side character, angering said ghosts.) I love this idea. American Horror Story: Ghost Aliens would be a really fun direction to go. And since they seem to have abandoned actual horror in favor of weird drama, it would fit right in.
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It does seem like they'd do the SW next. New Mexico or Texas would be kind of perfect. Tying it all back to aliens would make sense. But I just can't imagine watching this show at all once Lange is gone. And Lily Rabe as well. As much as I love Evan Peters and Sarah Paulson, they would be the only reason to keep watching, and I'm not sure they are enough. If the whole cast was a band, I'd say Paulson and Peters would be the bass players, with Rabe and Lange being the singers/guitarists.
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What kind of lovely band has two bass players? The kind Ryan Murphy writes!
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Bottom Liner posted:What kind of lovely band has two bass players? King Crimson, Ornette Coleman edit: almost forgot Dos, which is just two bass players Otto von Ruthless fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Oct 19, 2014 |
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I'm not going to lie, Ryan Murphy is not subtle AT ALL when it comes to "Freaks (by that I mean gay people) are people too!" in this show but at the very least he's using some internal tension (also, murder) in the group the Freaks have called a safe space to almost challenge the idea of one (I think that is what he's getting at). I love the camp of this show and, honestly, at this point Twisty the Clown is the reason why I'm watching because god drat is there some great dark comedy there (Why would you hire this guy to entertain your child? That's absurd). This is also my first season of AHS I have ever seen, I should note.
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ThatPazuzu posted:Did they say he was getting hosed in the rear end? I just thought her having a dick was enough. idk, someone else mentioned it and I guess I just... went with it. Honestly, now that I think about it, that scene was really weird and unnecessary. It's really not good that people just keep on giving Ryan Murphy shows instead of giving him some therapy.
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Thinking about it, I hope they do do a prison next. That way, we get a campy version of Oz with tons of gay sex. It's also a good setting that can deal without Lange's presence.
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