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Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness

Jurgan posted:

Wow, God sure is petty. "You disrespect me, I kill you." Apparently they worship Michael Corleone? Not even getting into the veracity of the quotes; I'd bet money most of them are false or deceptive twists on real quotes.

In general the further you go back the more petty gods tend to be. It wasn't until fairly recently that we decided than a god should be above Human frailties; hell you just have to look at the various ancient pantheons like the Greek one to see that people tended to think of gods as "Extremely emotional Humans with unfathomable powers and a willingness to use them."

I mean christ, one of the major legends about how Medusa happened is that she fled to Athena's temple when a man tried to rape her, the man caught her anyway and raped her in front of the statue of Athena, Athena being the goddess of wisdom decided that the appropriate reaction was to blame the woman for being raped in her temple and turn her into a hideous snakebeast that was so ugly people who saw her face literally turned to stone. What the gently caress Athena?


You want petty, go check out the Old Testament, OT God was a gigantic rear end in a top hat who could throw lightning and was treated by his worshippers as such.

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1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Neruz posted:

In general the further you go back the more petty gods tend to be. It wasn't until fairly recently that we decided than a god should be above Human frailties; hell you just have to look at the various ancient pantheons like the Greek one to see that people tended to think of gods as "Extremely emotional Humans with unfathomable powers and a willingness to use them."

I mean christ, one of the major legends about how Medusa happened is that she fled to Athena's temple when a man tried to rape her, the man caught her anyway and raped her in front of the statue of Athena, Athena being the goddess of wisdom decided that the appropriate reaction was to blame the woman for being raped in her temple and turn her into a hideous snakebeast that was so ugly people who saw her face literally turned to stone. What the gently caress Athena?

Which honestly just makes a lot of sense. The Greeks and other ancient cultures never had to struggle with rationalizing ideas of free will or the problem of evil. Their gods were dicks and they knew it.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Neruz posted:

In general the further you go back the more petty gods tend to be. It wasn't until fairly recently that we decided than a god should be above Human frailties; hell you just have to look at the various ancient pantheons like the Greek one to see that people tended to think of gods as "Extremely emotional Humans with unfathomable powers and a willingness to use them."

I mean christ, one of the major legends about how Medusa happened is that she fled to Athena's temple when a man tried to rape her, the man caught her anyway and raped her in front of the statue of Athena, Athena being the goddess of wisdom decided that the appropriate reaction was to blame the woman for being raped in her temple and turn her into a hideous snakebeast that was so ugly people who saw her face literally turned to stone. What the gently caress Athena?

If there's anything I learned about Greek gods it's that they're a bunch of manchildren with powers way beyond their maturity.

Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness

1stGear posted:

Which honestly just makes a lot of sense. The Greeks and other ancient cultures never had to struggle with rationalizing ideas of free will or the problem of evil. Their gods were dicks and they knew it.

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

If there's anything I learned about Greek gods it's that they're a bunch of manchildren with powers way beyond their maturity.

Ancient cultures had to come up with a reason why lovely things kept happening to 'good' people. "The gods are petty emotional shitbags" was a pretty solid explanation until we worked out that the real reason was because there are in fact no gods to begin with.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

If there's anything I learned about Greek gods it's that they're a bunch of manchildren with powers way beyond their maturity.

Norse, too.

Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness
Almost all old gods are manchildren with powers way beyond their maturity, it's not limited to the Greek or Norse gods.


Hell even the goddamn Dreamtime spirits from Australia were frequently petty shitheads. Gods that aren't petty shitheads are the exception, not the rule.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

Jurgan posted:

Wow, God sure is petty. "You disrespect me, I kill you." Apparently they worship Michael Corleone? Not even getting into the veracity of the quotes; I'd bet money most of them are false or deceptive twists on real quotes.

I mean, the AC/DC and Lennon quotes are absolutely true.

That being said, I've said all sorts of lovely things about God (as have tons of my friends, innumerable people on the internet, and plenty of famous people) and I'm still kicking. It's playing off confirmation bias.

AdjectiveNoun
Oct 11, 2012

Everything. Is. Fine.

Neruz posted:

Almost all old gods are manchildren with powers way beyond their maturity, it's not limited to the Greek or Norse gods.


Hell even the goddamn Dreamtime spirits from Australia were frequently petty shitheads. Gods that aren't petty shitheads are the exception, not the rule.

Like isn't this a major reason why Christianity took off the way it did? In a world of shithead manchildren gods and greedy Roman bureaucrats, there's this alright dude talking about a God who loves you individually and whose followers have an almost socialist support network. If I were a working class pagan in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD, I'd convert to that.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Thanatosian posted:

I mean, the AC/DC and Lennon quotes are absolutely true.

That being said, I've said all sorts of lovely things about God (as have tons of my friends, innumerable people on the internet, and plenty of famous people) and I'm still kicking. It's playing off confirmation bias.

Don't do that man.

Peter Griffin posted:

Oh no. I knew a guy who said lovely things about God once. Ten years later, BAM! Herpes.

Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness

AdjectiveNoun posted:

Like isn't this a major reason why Christianity took off the way it did? In a world of shithead manchildren gods and greedy Roman bureaucrats, there's this alright dude talking about a God who loves you individually and whose followers have an almost socialist support network. If I were a working class pagan in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD, I'd convert to that.

Possibly, the Christian Church has done such a good job of doctoring the poo poo out of all the records that we'll probably never know for sure.

zeroprime
Mar 25, 2006

Words go here.

Fun Shoe

Neruz posted:

In general the further you go back the more petty gods tend to be.

I like this joke about petty/insane gods from oglaf

Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness

zeroprime posted:

I like this joke about petty/insane gods from oglaf


Oglaf is one of the best webcomics on the entire internets. You cannot go wrong with Oglaf.

You can, however, totally go NSFW with Oglaf.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Neruz posted:

Oglaf is one of the best webcomics on the entire internets. You cannot go wrong with Oglaf.


It's also quite :nws: worth reading at home though.

Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness
If you are reading Oglaf at work you have done something horribly wrong.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Neruz posted:

If you are reading Oglaf at work you have done something horribly wrong.

You literally just said "You cannot go wrong with Olgaf"

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

zeroprime posted:

I like this joke about petty/insane gods from oglaf


I see your Mad God and raise a Sithrak:





Davethulhu
Aug 12, 2003

Morbid Hound

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

You literally just said "You cannot go wrong with Olgaf"

*smites u*

Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

You literally just said "You cannot go wrong with Olgaf"

Fine allow me to amend my statement; you cannot go wrong with Oglaf unless you are at work in which case almost anything involving Oglaf is wrong. Happy? :colbert:

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx
Oglaf is frequently unfunny and bad. It is also a webcomic, but I repeat myself.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Afraid of Audio posted:

Oglaf is frequently unfunny and bad. It is also a webcomic, but I repeat myself.

For example?

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx
Imagine I just linked Oglaf right now.

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax
Go back to the webcomics thread, audio.

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx
No.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

FuzzySkinner posted:

Have these people ever experienced being unemployed/laid off?

It's not fun. You turn into a really angry, bitter person, and you feel you can't trust anyone else except family and friends.

Oh wait, they're talking about minorities and are trying to justify their own racism while ignoring what really happens. My bad.

Its a no true Scotsman thing for them.

I've been unemployed twice since '09, and you can be drat sure that any time there's a hiccup of any kind at work, I start getting anxiety over not having a job again. If you try explaining these things they stick their heads in the sand and just say "you're different," and usually talk about how they bootstrapped their way to college in the 80s by joining the army, because the army will take everyone :downs:

Basically they can never admit that social programs are any good because of mythological welfare queens.

TapTheForwardAssist
Apr 9, 2007

Pretty Little Lyres

McDowell posted:

A Robespierre macro, I am dying. Are you more or less likely to be beheaded since the 2012 election?

Between 2003-2008 I got deployed to active warzones three times, with no choice given me.

So I'm gonna go with "less".

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Fulchrum posted:



Yes, its totally the Democrats who only care about White people. :irony:

Barack Obama hates white people and wants to introduce ebola to the US to wipe them all out because the Democrats don't care about white people but the Democrats are the party of the KKK...which is racist white people...even though blacks are the real racists... :psyduck:

Like I know that part of being a crazy conservative like this is being able to hold two conflicting beliefs simultaneously but this is incredible.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

TapTheForwardAssist posted:

Between 2003-2008 I got deployed to active warzones three times, with no choice given me.

So I'm gonna go with "less".

You know how conservatives feel about quitters, buddy:

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Wolfsheim posted:

You know how conservatives feel about quitters, buddy

Give them book deals, call them conservtive heroes and say they're a maverick and a kingmaker?

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

Fulchrum posted:



There's about 5 of these, all saying the same thing, about how a token number of ethnically diverse people have some success in Israel. Gee, wonder why they aren't showing the living conditions of most ethnic Arabs or Bedouins in Israel. Certainly it couldn't be because it would completely invalidate their point.

Mixed race Miss World contestants representing South Africa in the 1970s. Pfftttt, so much for apartheid libtards.
(I'm surprised how easy it is to find apartheid South African analogs to Israeli poo poo)

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

Wolfsheim posted:

You know how conservatives feel about quitters, buddy:



A pro draft comic? :unsmigghh:

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

I was watching the breaking news on the Kennedy Assassination, and I guess Cronkite was describing whack job conservatives protesting JFK?

I guess they were pissed about the US being in the UN, and hit him with picket signs.

Amazing how "Not My President"!-types existed all the way back then.

But yeah, this would be worth bringing up the next time any right-winger brings up the fact that "Kennedy was a conservative". I know those pop up from time to time.

e: Holy poo poo, a retro Gold Mine!

quote:

“We need a man on horseback to lead this nation,” Dealey said, “and many people in Texas and the Southwest think that you are riding Caroline’s tricycle.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/jfk50/reflect/20131012-extremists-in-dallas-created-volatile-atmosphere-before-jfks-1963-visit.ece

FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Oct 19, 2014

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

FuzzySkinner posted:

I was watching the breaking news on the Kennedy Assassination, and I guess Cronkite was describing whack job conservatives protesting JFK?

I guess they were pissed about the US being in the UN, and hit him with picket signs.

Amazing how "Not My President"!-types existed all the way back then.

But yeah, this would be worth bringing up the next time any right-winger brings up the fact that "Kennedy was a conservative". I know those pop up from time to time.

e: Holy poo poo, a retro Gold Mine!


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/jfk50/reflect/20131012-extremists-in-dallas-created-volatile-atmosphere-before-jfks-1963-visit.ece

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
All this makes me think is "wow, the GOP is going to be lionizing Obama 30, 40 years down the line".

e_angst
Sep 20, 2001

by exmarx

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

All this makes me think is "wow, the GOP is going to be lionizing Obama 30, 40 years down the line".

"Obama said there isn't a red america or a blue america, but a United States of America! He would absolutely deplore the partisanship of today's modern Democratic party and would certainly be a Republican if he were running today!"

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

e_angst posted:

"Obama said there isn't a red america or a blue america, but a United States of America! He would absolutely deplore the partisanship of today's modern Democratic party and would certainly be a Republican if he were running today!"

Well, if the Tea Party ends up splitting off for real, they may actually have a point! :haw:

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

e_angst posted:

"Obama said there isn't a red america or a blue america, but a United States of America! He would absolutely deplore the partisanship of today's modern Democratic party and would certainly be a Republican if he were running today!"

"And because we speak so highly of Obama, we can't possibly be racist! Please vote for us, black people!"

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

"And because we speak so highly of Obama, we can't possibly be racist! Please vote for us, black people!"

"*But only if you have valid photo-ID"

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club

ArchangeI posted:

"*But only if you have valid photo-ID government-mandated ID chip implant we forced on you in 2026."

If you ain't got nothin to hide when a Republican is in office....

Scruff McGruff
Feb 13, 2007

Jesus, kid, you're almost a detective. All you need now is a gun, a gut, and three ex-wives.
These are both from the same lady.

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MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
So they found the yellow cakes and aluminum tubes?

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