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 Dammit, Captain Marvel, stop trying to marry Hitler!
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Oct 19, 2014 13:23
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Cangelosi posted:
This is amazing. My favorite part is that Captain Marvel let the whole ceremony finish.
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Oct 19, 2014 16:19
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theflyingorc posted:This is amazing. Which makes him married to Hitler, the perfect plan!
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Oct 19, 2014 16:26
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Kwyndig posted:Which makes him married to Hitler, the perfect plan! Well, I guess he's Captain Hitler for now, assuming he took his last name. Meanwhile, Billy Batson is watching what's happening from wherever he goes when Shazam is in charge, growing more and more horrified.
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Oct 19, 2014 16:40
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Shazam dealt a crippling blow to the nazis by obtaining half of the reich in a messy divorce.
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Oct 19, 2014 16:42
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He just really wants that widow's pension.
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Oct 19, 2014 17:57
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If he really wanted to mess with Hitler he should have turned back to Billy. Surprise, you married a little boy!
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Oct 19, 2014 20:05
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theflyingorc posted:Well, I guess he's Captain Hitler for now, assuming he took his last name. Billy Batson is Shazam. He's a 12(?) year old kid in a crazy Superman body. -EDIT- VVVVVVVV "I guess I really put the 'hit' in 'Hitler'!" *laugh track, freeze frame, roll credits* Who What Now fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Oct 19, 2014 |
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Oct 19, 2014 20:16
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muscles like this? posted:If he really wanted to mess with Hitler he should have turned back to Billy. Surprise, you married a little boy! I have to imagine the next page was him socking Hitler, leading into the opening to Police Squad!
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Oct 19, 2014 20:17
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muscles like this? posted:If he really wanted to mess with Hitler he should have turned back to Billy. Surprise, you married a little boy! This is almost literally the plot of a venture brothers episode, except Hitler is the good
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Oct 19, 2014 20:50
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More unsourced nonsense.    
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Oct 20, 2014 01:17
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Any old fart worth his salt knows these two panels are from Tales of Suspense vol.1, issue #39 and it's from none other than "Iron Man Is Born!" pencilled by Don Heck, written by Stan Lee.
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Oct 20, 2014 01:38
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Found these on Imgur. 
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Oct 20, 2014 02:59
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The MSJ posted:Found these on Imgur.
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Oct 20, 2014 03:34
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"What do you mean 'How could I let it happen', Bruce? Our costumes look totally bitchin', I couldn't mess up the prospect of our team-ups"
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Oct 20, 2014 03:46
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Has there ever been a story dealing with the idea that a hero like Booster Gold or someone could go back in time and save Bruce's parents, but Batman is so incredibly important that doing so fucks up a ton of stuff?
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Oct 20, 2014 04:05
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Cangelosi posted:
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Oct 20, 2014 04:09
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Who What Now posted:Billy Batson is Shazam. He's a 12(?) year old kid in a crazy Superman body. Not in the original Fawcett stories. In those, Billy and Captain Marvel change places rather than Billy transforming into Cap.
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Oct 20, 2014 04:12
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OldTennisCourt posted:Has there ever been a story dealing with the idea that a hero like Booster Gold or someone could go back in time and save Bruce's parents, but Batman is so incredibly important that doing so fucks up a ton of stuff? 
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Oct 20, 2014 04:18
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OldTennisCourt posted:Has there ever been a story dealing with the idea that a hero like Booster Gold or someone could go back in time and save Bruce's parents, but Batman is so incredibly important that doing so fucks up a ton of stuff? I feel like somehow, if some time traveler were to create a bad future by saving Bruce's parents, he/she could go back further and stop Hitler, and the negative future that creates along with saving Bruce's parents make the future be completely fine.
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Oct 20, 2014 04:38
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I feel like that'd be a pretty strong concept for a DC style Age of Apocalypse event comic. Some well meaning hero thinks he'll help Bruce out by doing that and ends up creating an incredibly hosed up alternate timeline.
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Oct 20, 2014 04:42
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OldTennisCourt posted:I feel like that'd be a pretty strong concept for a DC style Age of Apocalypse event comic. Some well meaning hero thinks he'll help Bruce out by doing that and ends up creating an incredibly hosed up alternate timeline. What if it was the Flash and he decided to save his mother?
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Oct 20, 2014 04:43
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bobkatt013 posted:What if it was the Flash and he decided to save his mother? I'll amend that and say an event that ISN'T lovely then.
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Oct 20, 2014 04:46
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OldTennisCourt posted:Has there ever been a story dealing with the idea that a hero like Booster Gold or someone could go back in time and save Bruce's parents, but Batman is so incredibly important that doing so fucks up a ton of stuff? That's kind of a big part of Johns' Booster run, where he tries to keep Barbara from getting shot and tries to save Ted Kord
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Oct 20, 2014 04:51
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OldTennisCourt posted:Has there ever been a story dealing with the idea that a hero like Booster Gold or someone could go back in time and save Bruce's parents, but Batman is so incredibly important that doing so fucks up a ton of stuff?
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Oct 20, 2014 05:00
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OldTennisCourt posted:Has there ever been a story dealing with the idea that a hero like Booster Gold or someone could go back in time and save Bruce's parents, but Batman is so incredibly important that doing so fucks up a ton of stuff? Loeb's Superman/Batman run had something like that. Time travelers messed with their origins in a way to help turn Superman and Batman into tyrants in the present. When they tried to go back in time and fix stuff by making sure everything happened the way it was supposed to, Batman lost his poo poo at the last second, beat down Joe Chill, shot him in the head and then vanished from existence. I think this led to a future where Ra's Al Ghul killed the Justice League or something. There was an older story from maybe the early 80's (late 70's?) where Phantom Stranger brought Batman and Robin to another reality where they're a day from the Waynes getting shot. Robin wonders if they should let it happen because the world needs a hero like Batman, but Batman refuses to sit back. Instead, he shows up in time and beats up Joe Chill, getting his own feel-good redemption before Phantom Stranger sends him back home. Later on, we see that world's young Bruce studying hard and dedicating himself to getting into tip-top shape. He's going to become Batman, not out of vengeance, but out of inspiration for the mysterious stranger who saved his parents. I believe that issue is Mark Waid's favorite comic.
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Oct 20, 2014 05:00
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Benito Cereno posted:Not in the original Fawcett stories. In those, Billy and Captain Marvel change places rather than Billy transforming into Cap. Untrue, actually. Billy and Marvel are at once the same person and different people in those, they don't change places. Billy thinks of Captain Marvel both as himself and as another person. Captain Marvel as his own distinct entity that exists alongside Billy is actually quite rare. The Jeff Smith comic is one of the few to really portray it that way.
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Oct 20, 2014 05:08
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Say Nothing posted:More unsourced nonsense.
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Oct 20, 2014 05:17
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ImpAtom posted:Untrue, actually. Billy and Marvel are at once the same person and different people in those, they don't change places. Billy thinks of Captain Marvel both as himself and as another person. Captain Marvel as his own distinct entity that exists alongside Billy is actually quite rare. The Jeff Smith comic is one of the few to really portray it that way. Billy/Marvel are generally separate beings only in more modern takes like Kingdom Come/Dark Knight Strikes Again when comics started being written by people more interested in exploring the duality of a boy who transforms into a super-powered man rather than simply using it as a vehicle to tell stories about [NOT]Superman having icecream with cops after foiling a burglary.
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Oct 20, 2014 05:36
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Gavok posted:There was an older story from maybe the early 80's (late 70's?) where Phantom Stranger brought Batman and Robin to another reality where they're a day from the Waynes getting shot. Robin wonders if they should let it happen because the world needs a hero like Batman, but Batman refuses to sit back. Instead, he shows up in time and beats up Joe Chill, getting his own feel-good redemption before Phantom Stranger sends him back home. Later on, we see that world's young Bruce studying hard and dedicating himself to getting into tip-top shape. He's going to become Batman, not out of vengeance, but out of inspiration for the mysterious stranger who saved his parents. I believe that issue is Mark Waid's favorite comic. Just hearing that is pretty great even if it's some what if/alternate dimension sort of deal 
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Oct 20, 2014 06:05
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Skwirl posted:it took me along time to realize she was saying Clint.
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Oct 20, 2014 06:27
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Who What Now posted:Billy Batson is Shazam. He's a 12(?) year old kid in a crazy Superman body.
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Oct 20, 2014 06:34
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theflyingorc posted:I see other people arguing about it - I thought that the two personalities at least weren't 1:1 the same person? They're not the 100% same person in any version. One of Marvel's powers is the Wisdom of Shazam and that pretty noticeably influences how he acts. Even in stories where he's straight-up written as Billy In Marvel Body, they make sure to emphasize that he'll make a different decision as Billy than he will as Marvel in certain cases.
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Oct 20, 2014 06:49
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theflyingorc posted:I see other people arguing about it - I thought that the two personalities at least weren't 1:1 the same person? Billy Batson, when he's Billy Batson, doesn't have the wisdom of Solomon or the strength of Hercules or the something something of the rest of the letters, one of them is definitely Zeus. The wisdom of Solomon thing is probably important for the difference. Captain Marvel marrying Hitler seems weird, but Solomon is most famous for trying to cut a baby in half to appease 2 mothers, which is cray cray in a modern context. Can you imagine that episode of The People's Court? The judge says "Oh you both want full custody, let's kill and dismember the child."
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Oct 20, 2014 06:55
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Skwirl posted:Billy Batson, when he's Billy Batson, doesn't have the wisdom of Solomon or the strength of Hercules or the something something of the rest of the letters, one of them is definitely Zeus. He didn't actually want to kill the baby, it was a ruse to reveal the real mother. I think Judge Judy is probs the modern-day Solomon.
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Oct 20, 2014 07:10
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Skwirl posted:The wisdom of Solomon thing is probably important for the difference. Captain Marvel marrying Hitler seems weird, but Solomon is most famous for trying to cut a baby in half to appease 2 mothers, which is cray cray in a modern context. I am actually astonished at how someone could miss the point of the parable so completely.
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Oct 20, 2014 07:28
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Kramjacks posted:He didn't actually want to kill the baby, it was a ruse to reveal the real mother. I think Judge Judy is probs the modern-day Solomon. I never really understood why the fake mother was okay with that, though. What did she want with half a baby?
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Oct 20, 2014 07:56
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PJOmega posted:I am actually astonished at how someone could miss the point of the parable so completely. I know the point of the loving parable. I can't imagine the anyone falling for it who wouldn't have obviously been the worst custodial parent before it reached threatening the death of a child and I was making a joke. Edit: Eeevil posted:I never really understood why the fake mother was okay with that, though. What did she want with half a baby?
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Oct 20, 2014 08:04
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Eeevil posted:I never really understood why the fake mother was okay with that, though. What did she want with half a baby? Is having half a baby is still better than not having a baby in the first place? The point was probably to make Solomon look like a smartypants and not any actual lesson, like "See this clever thing Solomon does, he's so smart and that fake mom is so dumb I can't believe she fell for it." Which can be the only reason we need sometimes, which brings us back to marrying Hitler just to gently caress with him. How often has Captain America caused Hitler EMOTIONAL Trauma huh?... No, really, I want to know this. Section Z fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Oct 20, 2014 |
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Oct 20, 2014 08:08
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Eeevil posted:I never really understood why the fake mother was okay with that, though. What did she want with half a baby? There's good eating on one of those things.
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