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A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
We've had goon projects so legendarily bad they've been mocked in easter eggs in real commercial video games. Lets see Tropers do that!

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Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

We've had goon projects so legendarily bad they've been mocked in easter eggs in real commercial video games.

I'm intrigued. What's the lore behind this?

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Kaiser Mazoku posted:

I'm intrigued. What's the lore behind this?

Imagine four balls at the edge of a cliff.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

I'm intrigued. What's the lore behind this?

In Fallout New Vegas, you find four balls at the edge of a cliff. Beside them is a dead character named Johnny, who has five aces.

Fatal Error
Feb 13, 2013

by sebmojo

J.E. Sawyer is a goon.

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
I just looked it up. That's pretty funny.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

We've had goon projects so legendarily bad they've been mocked in easter eggs in real commercial video games. Lets see Tropers do that!

I'd rather not because their projects always involve rape, ponies, and/or some horriffic combination of the two. And children.

What I mean to say is kill all tropers and burn the bodies lest they dissolve into spores that will grow into more tropers.

Khazar-khum
Oct 22, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion

Stottie Kyek posted:

I just don't understand why someone would invest that much time and effort in a fanfiction. If you're capable of sitting down and writing 600,000 words of a story (not necessarily a good story, but it's a story), why not make your own characters and setting? The Fallout setting could be replaced with any dystopian wasteland sort of place, and the My Little Pony characters are pretty standard archetypes (and AFAIK the story's all about 'original fan characters' anyway) so they could be new characters.
Or the fanfic writers could get together with one of the many tropers who come up with characters and a setting but can't be arsed writing the story; take their worldbuilding and sperging and write the story. It might even be a fun challenge for Creative Convention, to turn the tropers' ideas into something good.

Because you have a built-in fan base. Your own work will garner a few hundred reads, tops. Your story about Batman and Sonic defending Equestria will collect the eyes and hearts of thousands of people eager to read it, revel in it, debate it.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Khazar-khum posted:

Because you have a built-in fan base. Your own work will garner a few hundred reads, tops. Your story about Batman and Sonic defending Equestria will collect the eyes and hearts of thousands of people eager to read it, revel in it, debate it.

Speaking of Batman and Equestria:

http://falloutequestria.wikia.com/wiki/Batmare_%28Heroes%29 posted:


The Batmare is a costumed do-gooder/superhero who operates in Dise. She does her best to improve Dise, fighting against major and minor crimes across the city. Her arch-nemesis is the seemingly insane Laughing Stallion.

Backstory

The Batmare was originally a young filly/mare who lost her parents. During her younger years, she discovered a comic book publisher in Manehatten that still contained legible copies of Mare Do Well. She would later move to Caledonia and end up in Dise where she saw a corrupt city in need of a hero. Inspired by the character of Mare Do Well, she became the Batmare.

Present Day

The Batmare spends much of her time, fighting crime or her arch-enemy, the Laughing Stallion. She is first mentioned as helping Hired Gun escape Dise by fighting Hired's pursuers when she, Flare and Serenity were trying to make their way to the haunted tunnels.

The Batmare appears again, pursuing the missing foals who have vanished all across Dise. She teams up with Hired Gun and together they discover the foals later to be living in good health and with a good education, under the Alicorn teacher/carer Platinum Haze. The Batmare whilst still suspicious, see's no reason to stop Haze as she is improving children's lives.

The Batmare enlists Hired Gun's aid in finding the culprits who are poisoning Dise's water fountains. This eventually leads the group to the water purifier, where the Laughing Stallion and his appropriately clown themed goons are waiting to blow up the water treatment facilities. Hired Gun and the Batmare manage to foil his plans, Hired Gun noting that the Laughing Stallion almost seemed to be acting, compared to some of the crazy people she has already met.

The Batmare bids Hired Gun, farwell as she prepares to make her way to Bridle Hope and negotiate a trade deal for Mr. House. Hired suggests that the Batmare might want to look into helping Parasite Mound which is much more rampant with crime. During Hired Gun's journey to Bridle Hope, Mr. New haygas's news report leaves out Hired Gun and the Batmare's involvement in stopping the Laughing Stallion and seems to imply that the Batmare and Laughing Stallion made the situation worse by fighting one another, thus allowing Mayhem to raise water prices again.

The Batmare has been working with Pinprick and her daughter, Spitshine since she arrived from Bridle Hope. The Batmare attempted to rescue the NCA president who had been kidnapped by the Laughing Stallion. The Batmare is beaten however and heavily injured, unable to stop Ginger from killing the president. The Laughing Stallion is prevented from doing anything else by his employer, Dragonslayer who activates a Balefire Bomb inside the stallion, The Batmare in a last act of heroism, teleports herself and the ready to explode stallion outside Dise, saving thousands of lives at the cost of her own.

Traits
Appearance

Her actual coat, mane, eye color are unknown, given that nobody has seen her outside her costume.

Personality

The Batmare is a paragon of justice and acts like a stereotypical, comic book superhero. She is willing to help others and fight against the corruption and crime that Dise's inhabitants perpetuate and seems to be set on defeating the Laughing Stallion who always escapes their fights.

She has shown a softer side to her personality, especially concerning her past and parents but they seem to be a source of strength for her and she doesn't seem to look back on the death of her parents too negatively.

Abilities

The Batmare is an excellent, hoof-to-hoof combatant, able to take on groups of well armed guardponies and goons with ease. She often mixes her teleportation spell with her attacks, allowing her to avoid attacks and perform sneak attacks on her opponents.

Known Spells

Telekinesis
Teleportations

Notes & Trivia

The Batmare & Laughing Stallion are both clearly based on the Batman and his arch enemy, The Joker.

The Batmare and Laughing Stallion also seem to be based on The Mechanist and AntAgonizer from Fallout 3

The Batmare and AntAgonizer both based their persona's on comic book characters, with The Batmare making her own up and the AntAgonizer adopting the name from a lesser known villain.

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

Seeing JosephWongKS avatar reminded of some 'quality literature' that tvtropes is sure to appreciate!
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/Twisted

quote:

Mystical Pregnancy: Only red roller coasters are born, not made. Their mothers are chosen by what are apparently gods for their good character, then summoned to the Temple of the Red and is somehow impregnated. They have amnesia about the exact process, which brings up some Unfortunate Implications.

Questionable Consent: It's unclear how much consent female coasters have when being mystically impregnated with reds, since they have amnesia about the event and no one else seems very clear on how or what happens.

As bad as Twisted was I'm pretty sure it didn't include rollercoaster rape.

Krotera
Jun 16, 2013

I AM INTO MATHEMATICAL CALCULATIONS AND MANY METHODS USED IN THE STOCK MARKET

Geokinesis posted:

As bad as Twisted was I'm pretty sure it didn't include rollercoaster rape.

The troper description is pretty accurate so I don't know, decide for yourself.

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Galick
Nov 26, 2011

Why does Khajiit have to go to prison this time?

Geokinesis posted:

Seeing JosephWongKS avatar reminded of some 'quality literature' that tvtropes is sure to appreciate!
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/Twisted

As bad as Twisted was I'm pretty sure it didn't include rollercoaster rape.

Actually, it 100% did. They're mostly right about that, though they're still far too apologetic for the book.

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.
wait, roller coasters?

Galick
Nov 26, 2011

Why does Khajiit have to go to prison this time?

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

wait, roller coasters?

Just read this.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Lottery of Babylon posted:

In Fallout New Vegas, you find four balls at the edge of a cliff. Beside them is a dead character named Johnny, who has five aces.

One of the junk items in Wasteland 2 is a deck of cards that has five aces.

Of course, there's also a dud grenade that has a tag, "Pulling this will make all your dreams come true!", but that's because of a backer reward.

BlueDude
Aug 7, 2014
Brony tropers!

And The Fandom Rejoiced: MLP:FIM posted:

The Equestria Girls movies were okay, but it would be nice if we could get a proper, non EQG movie that's actually about po...they've announced one? For a 2017 release date? THERE IS A GOD!

Chances are that if your views on theology can be swayed by children's cartoons, then there's something wrong with your priorities.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
2017 is still three years away.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

BlueDude posted:

Brony tropers!


Chances are that if your views on theology can be swayed by children's cartoons, then there's something wrong with your priorities.

I dunno, the existence of brony conventions is decent evidence for the absence of a loving God.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

Geokinesis posted:

Seeing JosephWongKS avatar reminded of some 'quality literature' that tvtropes is sure to appreciate!
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/Twisted

As bad as Twisted was I'm pretty sure it didn't include rollercoaster rape.

Reading through all those tropes it almost seems like it would be a good story. You have a hero who kills and is bloodthirsty, a "snarky" sidekick who challenges him, a race of beings where the strongest rule over the others and a subset that are evil because that's how they were born, a hero that destroy rides even though that creates the evil in his own world. It all sounded like it was going somewhere. :sigh: At least we got a good laugh out of it. I hope that the sequel gets released someday.

I got a good scare at that page, I looked at the top to see what other pages the tropers had made and saw a long list of icons. :stare: Fortunately it's just the TVtropes website being unable to distinguish between Twisted the tv series and Twisted the book.

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity

annebeeche posted:

What's something that nearly always shows up in your works, to the point where it may be a red flag as to who wrote the work.

My biggest creator thumbprint? Excessive turning of the tables on gender roles and stereotypes and that stuff. I more often than not have small-framed emotional boys and then tall, stoicist women.

Melloncollie posted:

Something I noticed today: Everybody tends to be a pottymouth. I don't make them that way on purpose, it just kinda happens.

chihuahua 0 posted:

I tend to stay away from bad language, since I don't curse in real life and I don't want to be typing out stuff that I wouldn't want to say at a reading. I think of curse words as pepper. Too much, and it spoils the experience, but only a little bit of seasoning gives it a deeper taste, just for realistic and diction reasons.
Golly, tropers sure are children!

msnoodles posted:

A ridiculous amount of eating! It is a biological imperative so it shouldn't be too surprising, but I find myself inserting feasts/grazing/social snacking/hunting/cooking/bonding over food a lot, which must be noticeable after some time. I'm also maybe overly concerned with how a character smells, though that does affect our perception of people we meet in real life.
George, is that you?

King Zeal posted:

Chivalrous Pervert/Ethical Slut: At least one of the main characters likes to screw around.
Madness Tropes: I like studying the extremes of the human psyche.
Freudian Excuse: It's important for my readers to understand where my villains are coming from. Unless I plan for them to be so pathologically evil that their thought patterns are pure alien.
Trauma Conga Line: Brian Michael Bendis once said, "the secret to drama is to figure out the thing your hero wants least to happen, and then doing it."
Earn Your Happy Ending: This tends to be how my stories end, unless it's an outright Bittersweet Ending.

More controversial:
Incest Is Relative: I have a fetish for it. Nuff said.
Casual Kink: I hate Good People Have Good Sex with a passion.
Wish Fulfillment
Author Avatar: I Just Want to Be Special. So sue me.
Thanks for sharing!

Eventua posted:

Everyone is heterosexual. I don't particularly have a thing against homosexuals of either gender (several people I hang out with at college are gay or bi), but I generally try to avoid sexuality at all anyway: the reason I avoid homosexuality in particular, however, is more to do with 'the implication is that they'll actually have sex either now or after the story, which would involve... well, alternate methods of intercourse instead of the standard'. Which grosses me out.
Those drat homosexuals can't keep their hands off each other!

tsstevens posted:

Good Is Not Soft:This was a trope I very much adopted when I came back to the site and think this is a great character trait, one that I find in a lot of my favorite characters. I'm not sure if really anyone I write in my novel stands out in regards to living up to it but good people, nice people, who are tough or even brutal when the situation calls for it, that is very much an appeal for me.

The other is tackling very hard, very controversial issues and try to put if not a positive light on them then try and come up with a good answer to tackling these things. Issues such as racism, youth crime and the adult entertainment industry are ones that I am focusing on at the moment and I really want to work on things like the blowback from an incident that results in tragedy (such as those seeking revenge on people when the law had not been able to) as well as a future story centered on kiddy porn. Now there is no way to put a positive spin on this, all the police works I know of that had this really were as unsympathetic to this very real problem as they could be and it is a view I very much agree with. In saying that though a lot of works very much go into Pædo Hunt territory, rightfully so. The police become vengeful, they want punishment rather than justice, and you can well say that there is no justice for those who had been wronged in this way. With that said I do think some of how the police react in these stories falls under Rule of Drama, these are shocking crimes both in real life and fiction, and certainly were I to write such an idea it would be completely different to writing prostitution in a sympathetic light, I would be as unsympathetic as possible, I have a few good ideas (one in particular, I want to share it but it might be too rough or too, "oh come on" but with permission I'd share it) but also try and work on how professional the police are in being able to reign in their emotions, not go all Vic Mackie on pedophiles. Either way it is a very meaty concept and one that if I can pull off the others I mentioned above something I would really like to sink my teeth into.
The GATTACA of Kiddy Porn.


Also, check that Good is Not Soft page. I've never read Terry Pratchett but that quote at the top is unbelievably banal unless you've internalized fantasy tropes to an unhealthy degree. "Good men?" "Evil men?" This guy is a Nerd God?
oh yeah,

Major Tom posted:

There's always a headstrong character in my works.
Thanks for sharing!

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

Harime Nui posted:

I've never read Terry Pratchett but that quote at the top is unbelievably banal unless you've internalized fantasy tropes to an unhealthy degree. "Good men?" "Evil men?" This guy is a Nerd God?

It's from a Discworld book, which is basically an entire series about fantasy tropes.

He's a decent writer, but he's also responsible, him and Douglas Adams, for a whole generation or two of nerds trying to use dry humor and instead coming up with uninteresting sarcasm.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

quote:

Incest Is Relative: I have a fetish for it. Nuff said.

Why the gently caress would you post this. No one cares.

Venusian Weasel
Nov 18, 2011

Harime Nui posted:

creator thumbprints

These are the most uninteresting special snowflake "quirks". I especially love the irony of using a list of tropes to show the things that make your writing stand out. That's like intentionally setting a horror story in small-town Maine and expecting everyone to recognize your distinctive style.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Ague Proof posted:

Why the gently caress would you post this. No one cares.

Nuff said.

Dr. Miracle
Feb 13, 2008

born to shart

Harime Nui posted:

A whole bunch of tropey bullshit.

"Hmm, yes, judging from the highly distinctive style and quirks such as youth crime, I believe this fragment to be a part of a long lost tsstevens tale omitted from the Folio! This is the find of the century!"

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Dr. Miracle posted:

"Hmm, yes, judging from the highly distinctive style and quirks such as youth crime, I believe this fragment to be a part of a long lost tsstevens tale omitted from the Folio! This is the find of the century!"

:tvtropes: "...Who?"

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Djeser posted:

It's from a Discworld book, which is basically an entire series about fantasy tropes.

He's a decent writer, but he's also responsible, him and Douglas Adams, for a whole generation or two of nerds trying to use dry humor and instead coming up with uninteresting sarcasm.

You really can't blame him for that. Besides, I'd place far more of the blame on Whedon. It's not like Tropers actually sit down and take the time to read Hitchhiker's Guide or any of the Discworld books, they just know as nerds they should like/pretend to have read them.

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity
Someone tell Kevin Feige his movies are unrealistic!

Tungsten 74 posted:

Why do people with superpowers, at least those that could actually be useful fighting crime, always become vigilantes? Doesn't anyone ever gain the power to shoot lasers from their eyes, and then decide to join the police?

I don't get it. Becoming a police officer seems like a logical step for any would-be crimefighter. Police officers are trained to safely and appropriately interact with the public, both innocent and criminal, in times of peace and danger. Police officers are trained to defend themselves, and are mentally prepared to make potentially life-saving decisions under extreme pressure. Police officers have access to intelligence networks to track down criminals, and the resources to safely and effectively apprehend them. Police officers wield state-derived authority, and command respect as stewards of society. And police officers have colleagues and allies who understand the work they do and the burdens they bear, and can give support and guidance through dark times.

Basically, police uphold the law, keep the peace and serve the people, and they do it with authority and expertise that some spandex punk vigilante would sorely lack. They do everything superheroes do, and get paid for it to boot.

Eagal posted:

Police are Useless. And/or corrupt.

Tungsten 74 posted:

In reality or in-universe?

Either way, I'd still prefer a police service that at least pays lip-service to due process and the rule of law, to roving gangs of superpowered vigilantes with no oversight or accountability whatsoever. One has room for reform, the other is a recipe for disaster.

EDIT: Hey, I had another thought: why are there no police officers who gained superpowers, and kept right on being police officers? Or, if it's an X-Men-style situation and the powers don't kick in until puberty, what's stopping a kid who always really, really wanted to become a police officer (reputation be damned) from developing superpowers, and joining their local police service anyway?

EDIT EDIT: One more thing! Why do the police have to be useless/corrupt? Why can't they be competent and trustworthy for once?

And what makes superheroes so much more morally pure than police officers? Real-life vigilantes sure as hell aren't paragons of morality. In fact, most vigilante action in the real world involves lynch-mobs and extra-judicial killings. If you want to see some real masked crusaders, do a Google Image Search for "KKK rally".

poo poo, and a third thing: if Team Super or whatever is more morally pure than the mundane police (maybe their leader has powers of Super Administration or can cast Detect Evil at-will, I dunno), why haven't they been put in charge of reforming the normal police? Surely the Ubermensch of Team Super could easily root out all the bad apples in the Everytown Police Department, eventually producing an institution as just and righteous as their own?

Eagal posted:

Paperwork. How many reports will you need to fill out to fire your gun? How about to shoot lasers from your eyes? Have power, will use. Don't need to be sitting around writing a precise account of what color the sky was when Johnny Cash shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.

Police are very often pretty effective with mundane criminals. Once you get into a guy that can turn into smoke or control the weather they're going to be a bit beyond their training.

Tungsten 74 posted:

aha what. That's not how real-world police work at all. Police officers don't have to fill out a form before they can use their law-given powers. If that was the case, our systems of law and order would have collapsed long ago.

Police officers are given free reign to use their powers, including their firearms, as and when they see fit, with the provision that if it comes to light that they've been abusing that power, they will face criminal charges. They are given this freedom because our governments are not stupid, and realise that police officers often need to act quickly and decisively, without being tied up in red tape.

Accountability is important, of course, which is why police officers have to fill out paperwork and suchlike after the fact. If a police officer has to use their firearm, they will use their firearm. THEN they will fill out an incident report form, detailing precisely who or what they shot, how many times, where, when, and why. This provides any outside observer with a paper trail that can be traced back to the cop in question, ensuring that the cop can he held accountable for their actions.

Hell, that's the case with all paperwork. Why do cops have to sign in when they go on duty, or come off? So that if an incident occurs, investigators can look over the records and work out who was where, when, and what they were doing. If Officer Parker is alleged to have shot an innocent man on Main Street at 11am on 12/04/2014, then investigators can look through the records and see if the evidence matches the claims. Maybe it doesn't - maybe the records show that Officer Parker was ticketing speeding motorists on the Northern Bypass at the time, and that he has a spotless disciplinary record. Or maybe he really was on patrol on Main Street at the time the alleged incident occurred, and when he handed in his gun at the end of his shift, there was a bullet missing from its magazine which he didn't report discharging. Either way, Officer Parker's innocence or guilt could be readily ascertained from the paperwork that he was required, by law, to fill out.

But hey, you'd rather we gave masked vigilantes free reign over our society, to enforce the law however they pleased, with no accountability whatsoever. I'm baffled that you can't see what a terrible, terrible, terrible idea that is.

And yes, I admit that a normal human police officer would struggle to deal with superhuman criminals. But surely the solution would be to start recruiting superhumans into the police service?

EDIT: Oh and, just how long do you really think it takes to fill out an incident report? These are documents intended as clear, concise accounts of events as an officer recalls them, clearly defining the context of the incident, the behaviour of the suspect (and others, where applicable), and the reasoning that the officer used to justify their actions at the time. They're not composing short stories about how the light played upon the San Diego rooftops, as Shankums McGee lay dying in an alleyway with a police-issue 9mm round buried in his left lung. Bureaucracy within police services is nowhere near as crippling as you seem to think it is.

Eagal posted:

You jumping skills are truly top notch. Veritably olympian level. Jumping to conclusions could be your super-power. They could call you The Fantastic Conclusion-Jumper. Like the Amazing Spider-Man, non? [lol]

I'm just throwing out ideas, here. Suggesting a reason for X example. At exactly what point did I say superheroes should not be subject to any accountability whatsoever?

How much time does it take to fill out an accident report? More time than it takes Joker to go on a murder spree while Batman has to account for why he broke Penguin's jaw and provide a clear, concise accounts of events as Batman recalls them, clearly defining the context of the incident (some terrible bird related crime, no doubt), the behavior of the Penguin (he was probably making a bird pun or two whilst brandishing his deadly umbrella), and the reasoning that Batman used to justify breaking Penguin's jaw at the time.

Sounds like a short story if I ever heard one, be it about the events or the color of raindrops in the afternoon sun.

What benefit carrying a badge? So Da Chief can tell you you better clean up your act because you're a loose cannon and your world-weary partner can comment that he's getting too old for this poo poo.

If the hero is found to have broken the law then they, being a hero, would surely turn themselves over to the proper authorities for summary judgement.

Police already have a bad reputation, why compound that problem by adding someone who can crush a car into the size of a football with his bare hands?

Let the government handle it. The resident Nick Fury expy. Bald Black Leader Guy. David Hasselhoff.

THESE SUPERHERO COMICS ARE AN INSULT TO OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM

e: WHY DO YOU SUPPORT VIGILANTISM. WHAT THE BATMAN CHARACTER DOES IS NOT "COOL," IT IS TEACHING OUR CHILDREN DISRESPECT FOR LAWFUL AUTHORITY. I HAVE ASPERGERSSSSSSSS

Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Oct 23, 2014

Venusian Weasel
Nov 18, 2011

Man, that post is more depressing than funny. That's not just a troper spergin' out over the inherent virtue of law enforcement. A large number of Americans actually believe that poo poo, and it's why officers are able to get away with so much.

I am not a book
Mar 9, 2013
The best part of that is that it's basically the plot of The Boys, which is super hosed up... I'd expect tropers to be all over it.

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity
It was the first thing I thought of, but too much swearing in that one I think

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

I am not a book posted:

The best part of that is that it's basically the plot of The Boys, which is super hosed up... I'd expect tropers to be all over it.

Unless it involves ponies, fanfiction, or sexualized 12 year olds, tropers probably haven't read it.

graybook
Oct 10, 2011

pinya~

Harime Nui posted:

It was the first thing I thought of, but too much swearing in that one I think

But it's a grimdark subversion of what superheroes are supposed to be, blah blah blah, edgy Garth Ennis bloody fill in the rest

Harime Nui
Apr 15, 2008

The New Insincerity
Post Your Concept

Argeus the Paladin posted:

But I think I'll try with another fanfic concept. This story now is in my hard drive aptly named as "Kanon with Legionaries"

The story's prelude takes place in 14 AD, the year of the Battle of Teutoberg Forest, in which the Germanian warriors under the command of Gaius Arminius i.e. Hermann tricked, ambushed and annihilated three Roman legions under the command of Consul Quinctillus Varus. In this alternate universe, however, the Romans won the battle, thanks to the leadership of Proconsul Flavius Julius Caesar, only son of Emperor Augustus. Arminius was caught in the act of tricking the Romans, captured and summarily executed after the Romans wiped out his rabbles who had lost initiative.

On the way home to receive the triumph he so duly deserved, Flavius passed by the Greek province of Thermon, in which he consulted the oracles of Delphi. For one reason or another, the oracle passed the gods' words to Flavius that he had no future in Rome. Instead, his future lay in a land "far, far away, beyond the lands of the barbaric Dacians, the mighty Sarmatians and the cunning Parthians, further into the vast country in the east filled with snow and hail, all across the sea in the far east where no Roman had traveled. A land of snow and sword and endless bounty of the earth." A land the oracle called Nihonnia.

And so, heeding the call of the gods, Flavius returned to Rome and prepared for his journey. His father, failing to convince him otherwise, had no other choice but to grant him the title of Imperator Nihonnicus and Legio XI with the golden eagle standard as his blessings for this endeavor.

This journey would take ten years through Roman territory, right through to the East, crossing over mountains and deserts, rivers and tundras, enduring the hot desert sun as well as the cold Russian weather. In the end, the Roman expedition reached what today is Vladivostok, having lost many men and horses on the way for countless causes.

By the wording of the oracle, Flavius decided to have his men chop down wood and built boats to cross the ocean to the east. The gods did not favor him that day, for the very Kamikaze that would many centuries later doom the Mongol invasion to Japan struck the intrepid Roman imperator, wiping out all but one of his ships. The crew of this lucky ship, the first century of the Legion's First Cohort, managed to scramble ashore with their eagle standard.

Their fortune did not last long, however, for they were ambushed by hostile locals. The brave Roman soldiers did not give up, and for every fallen legionary five natives would lay dead, hacked and stabbed by the famous Gladii Hispaniensii. In the end, though, they were overwhelmed by their foes' sheer number, and were eventually pushed them to a snowy forested foothill and slaughtered them to the last men. Even in the last minutes they stood firm in the belief that their Imperator would come for them and overturn the tide of battle...

As for Flavius, he was washed ashore not far away, and was rescued by a hospitable fisherman. Having lost everything, including his memory, Flavius had no choice but to stay back in this new land as a fisherman devoid of wealth or glory. In the end, he learnt Japanese, married his savior's daughter and spent the rest of his days as a commoner forgotten by history. All the while, in Rome, his brother-in-law Tiberius had assumed the throne and proceeded to erase all records about Flavius Julius Caesar, the hero of Teutoberg.

For many generations, Flavius' children, grandchildren and greatgrandchldren would remain in Japan, convinced they were no different from the common folks. Thus the oracle was realized - Flavius' children and grandchildren's future was tied to this land of Nihonnia, not as its rulers or conquerors, but as commoners who weren't even aware of their Roman heritage or their claim to the throne of the Eternal City of the Seven Hills. Ironically, later on, a branch of his descendents moved to a snowy town where the Roman soldiers fought to the death.

Fast forwarding two thousand years into the future, out of his descendents, there was one teenager by the name Yuuichi Aizawa, who returned to this town. There, he would find love and warmth as well as tragedy and cold... supposedly.

Little was he aware of his role - to take up the mantle his ancestor had dropped two millennia ago, and lead the Roman soldiers, or whatever was left of them, back to Rome as deserving of their devotion to the Empire...

So, thoughts?

Nihonnia!

:japan::hf::hist101:

Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Oct 23, 2014

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

That's a fascinating convergence of anime nerd and Roman history nerd.

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grant him the title of Imperator Nihonnicus

:laffo:

BlueDude
Aug 7, 2014
From Fast Eddie's (public!) troper page:

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—- Note to self: The ratio of critics to creators is something like 10,000:1. The ratio of good critics to bad: 1:10,000, where "good" means "Helps to advance the art."

No wonder he can't take criticism.

sweeperbravo
May 18, 2012

AUNT GWEN'S COLD SHAPE (!)

BlueDude posted:

From Fast Eddie's (public!) troper page:


No wonder he can't take criticism.

So for every useful piece of criticism you get, you get 9,999 UN-useful pieces of criticism. Gosh! Must be hard to find good criticism when the odds are that stacked against you, man, best not to even try.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




I almost kind of want to see someone just up and send him the exact same criticism 10,000 times.

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Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Regalingualius posted:

I almost kind of want to see someone just up and send him the exact same criticism 10,000 times.

Like he'll even bother with ten thousand messages telling him to implement a quote system and an index for every page as proof of writ.

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