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Ah yes, I too, create personas in order to attack my peers and accuse them of being racists.
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My understanding is she was just an angry young person with a really angry review blog - she didn't have any peers, no professional identity, it wasn't a cover for anything or a way to launch secret attacks. She grew up, wanted to move on, and got involved in writing.
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I just finished The Dark Defiles. I'll probably have more to post about it later, but for now I'm just going to say... What a loving mess.
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Oct 20, 2014 18:19
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General Battuta posted:My understanding is she was just an angry young person with a really angry review blog - she didn't have any peers, no professional identity, it wasn't a cover for anything or a way to launch secret attacks. She grew up, wanted to move on, and got involved in writing. She was writing the blog while publishing fiction though.
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General Battuta posted:My understanding is she was just an angry young person with a really angry review blog - she didn't have any peers, no professional identity, it wasn't a cover for anything or a way to launch secret attacks. She grew up, wanted to move on, and got involved in writing. Ha, she's been a angry young person for a decade now, being a vicious rear end in a top hat to authors and people who like different things from her. She was still blogging as Requires Hate while Benjanun Sriduangkaew was playing nice to the authors she had previously attacked as RH. And before she was outed, she was encouraging her peers to accuse the people linking the Benjanun Sriduangkaew and Requires Hate identities together as racists. But nah let's make excuses, after all she was only a young person when she did these things.
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Oct 20, 2014 18:28
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This sounds like a pretty ugly situation all around! I regret commenting.
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Oct 20, 2014 19:23
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Amberskin posted:That looks interesting. Where should I begin? I think Gridlinked was the first published novel in that universe, but cronologically the first seems to be "Prador Moon". Now, here is the usual dilemma: should I read the books in the order they were written, or in their "in-universe" chronology? I read Prador Moon then Hilldiggers, then in in-universe chronological order more or less (although Shadows of the Scorpion was last). It didn't suffer for it.
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Oct 20, 2014 19:44
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Neurosis posted:I just finished The Dark Defiles. I'll probably have more to post about it later, but for now I'm just going to say... What a loving mess. Curious to see your followup; I liked it.
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Oct 20, 2014 19:47
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ravenkult posted:Ah yes, I too, create personas in order to attack my peers and accuse them of being racists. With Tumblr making that sort of angry ranting more out there than ever I wonder how many more people are going to be put in a similar position in the next say, 5 or so years.
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coyo7e posted:This is patently false. In Harry Potter a kid deiscovers he has magic powers, goes to boarding school, and solves a mystery. You're actually giving HP1 too much credit there. Harry discovers he's a wizard, goes to boarding school and his friends solve a mystery while he watches. Harry is a complete cypher in the first book, which is probably why it became so popular - he has no personality traits to interfere with the child reader's wish fulfilment fantasies. mania posted:Ha, she's been a angry young person for a decade now, being a vicious rear end in a top hat to authors and people who like different things from her. Nobody is an angry young person for a decade. She's a vicious rear end in a top hat who also failed to grow up.
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:I just got to the point in City of Stairs where Shara and Sigrud meet the mhovost (mid book spoiler) and Just wait until the next one. Sigrud is such a badass Viking.
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CaptCommy posted:It's the latter. It's the first book in the Dagger and Coin series: http://www.danielabraham.com/books-by-daniel-abraham/the-dagger-and-the-coin/
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Jedit posted:You're actually giving HP1 too much credit there. Harry discovers he's a wizard, goes to boarding school and his friends solve a mystery while he watches. Harry is a complete cypher in the first book, which is probably why it became so popular - he has no personality traits to interfere with the child reader's wish fulfilment fantasies. While agreeing with"holy poo poo Sanderson dumped a tl: dr on me", the book covers the introduction of several characters and puts them through some crucibles where they learn new skills and perspectives. That said,there were a couple times during the audiobook when I was wondering "Good lord how much more of this book could there possibly be!?" coyo7e fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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Harry's pathetic to the point of me once arguing that the books don't have plots, just stuff happening around the main character.General Battuta posted:Seems reasonable to me. She posted this too. Well, you can be a good writer and a bad person. And that apology doesn't look as convincing to me as Sriduangkaew thinks it does, or as good as the ROTYH one. (E: Sorry, I did see your other comments, and don't want to start a fight. Just... stating the obvious.) How's the novel coming on by the way? Safety Biscuits fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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General Battuta posted:This sounds like a pretty ugly situation all around! I regret commenting. Sorry if it came off like I was accusing you of making excuses for her. Not many people know of her long and nasty online history and she and her allies are trying their best to downplay her shitiness. Jedit posted:Nobody is an angry young person for a decade. She's a vicious rear end in a top hat who also failed to grow up. I was kinda roundaboutly trying to make the same point. There have been people making excuses for her by saying she was young when she was on LJ/blogging as Requires Hate. But like I said, she's been like this for a decade (and gotten worse over the years), so even if she was young when she started, she's definitely old enough now to know she's wrong. And anyway, she hasn't changed one bit, despite what she claims in her apologies. Elizabeth Bear commented on it: Elizabeth Bear posted:I mean no harm to Bee/RH, but I do not believe her apologies are authentic. There's been no sign of any change in her behavior--reports of ongoing and *current* harassment and bullying, mostly directed toward women and poc, are hard to ignore--and several women of color personally known to me as friends and colleagues have confirmed in private communication that there's been no recent change in her behavior except publicly.
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Has anyone read 'Metaplanetary' & 'Superluminal' by Tony Daniel? Those two books are pretty much my favorite out of all the books I have read. Can't get much better than a semi sentient wild Jeep that consistently evades people who hunt wild Jeeps for sport. And that isn't even the best part. These books are massively detailed, with tech that is wildly ambitious and political situations that are similar to current day, but also very heavily influenced by tech, plus AI rights, wars, evolved humans, etc. :-D
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Neurosis posted:I just finished The Dark Defiles. I'll probably have more to post about it later, but for now I'm just going to say... What a loving mess. I think it was actually kind of good. I liked that the ending was pretty open, though I think I have a general idea what happens after it. But I'm curious what you think of it as well.
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ulmont posted:Curious to see your followup; I liked it. None of the answers were particularly satisfactory and the whole book just felt haphazard and desultory. We found out what the Kiriath remnants are planning and had hints as to what will happen when Archeth gets back to the Imperial capital, but didn't see it happen; the things in the Grey Places are there just 'cos and are aliens; who knows what the Dark Court actually are - we still don't know if they're Envoys and have a sci fi origin or what, though there were a couple more hints it was actually Earth but nothing conclusive; the dwenda are altered human soldiers, yeah, okay, whatever... Egar got killed in a meaningless fashion and Archeth leveled up her fighting class and gets a few soldier followers in endeavours which were just pretexts for the Helmsmen to talk at them, otherwise they did nothing. Ringil I guess ends up being absorbed into his sword and becomes Hjel and lives an entirely different life, alright, whatever, an ending that didn't feel particularly meaningful other than allowing Ringil to escape his role as a hero; why Dakovash decided to do this isn't particularly well explained other than him saying he's known as a bit of a wildcard... There were huge tracts of the book that just felt pointless. It felt like Morgan just ran out of ideas with what to do with the setting so we got a book that was mostly filler. There were well written parts of the book but overall it seemed aimless. A pity because the first 2 books were amazing. Neurosis fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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I just finished City of Stairs. That was quite good. The author is working on a sequel. I wonder where it will go, given that it feels like the major mysteries of the setting have been dealt with in a pretty satisfactory manner. Well, aside from, maybe, the origin of the gods themselves.
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I'm assuming the sequel will be more in the direction of political intrigue with some magic poo poo thrown in.
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Looking for a book with just some bad rear end character(s). Think I've read all the Gemmell books that I'd be interested in and Abercrombie. Anything else out there I haven't thought of?
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FAGGY CLAUSE posted:Looking for a book with just some bad rear end character(s). Think I've read all the Gemmell books that I'd be interested in and Abercrombie. Anything else out there I haven't thought of? If you don't mind your badasses shading slightly towards the anime side of things, Malazan has a fairly enormous crop of 'em.
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Thanks - I've given Malazan a fair shake and read the first two. Just couldn't get into the third and beyond.
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FAGGY CLAUSE posted:Looking for a book with just some bad rear end character(s). Think I've read all the Gemmell books that I'd be interested in and Abercrombie. Anything else out there I haven't thought of? Richard Morgan's Land Fit for Heroes trilogy just finished. The characters are pretty bad rear end.
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JackKnight posted:Has anyone read 'Metaplanetary' & 'Superluminal' by Tony Daniel? Those two books are pretty much my favorite out of all the books I have read. Can't get much better than a semi sentient wild Jeep that consistently evades people who hunt wild Jeeps for sport. And that isn't even the best part. These books are massively detailed, with tech that is wildly ambitious and political situations that are similar to current day, but also very heavily influenced by tech, plus AI rights, wars, evolved humans, etc. :-D Hard to go wrong with 99 cent ebooks, I'll check them out.
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JackKnight posted:Has anyone read 'Metaplanetary' & 'Superluminal' by Tony Daniel? Those two books are pretty much my favorite out of all the books I have read. Can't get much better than a semi sentient wild Jeep that consistently evades people who hunt wild Jeeps for sport. And that isn't even the best part. These books are massively detailed, with tech that is wildly ambitious and political situations that are similar to current day, but also very heavily influenced by tech, plus AI rights, wars, evolved humans, etc. :-D I only read Superliminal, which wasn't advertised as a sequel. Made it a bit difficult to follow, but good high concept ultratech Sci fi. Pity they sold so badly there's no actual ending.
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Velius posted:Richard Morgan's Land Fit for Heroes trilogy just finished. The characters are pretty bad rear end. Yeah, all three POVs are famous within the series' world for being badass and they're also good, fun to read characters with entertaining, Abercrombie-like dialogue. The Red Knight by Miles Cameron is good for badass medieval knights and witches/wizards just ganking dudes in medieval battles.
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FAGGY CLAUSE posted:Looking for a book with just some bad rear end character(s). Think I've read all the Gemmell books that I'd be interested in and Abercrombie. Anything else out there I haven't thought of? First five Amber books by Roger Zelazny and Jhereg by Steven Brust. Corwin from the former is kind of the ultimate badass IMO as far as slightly more literary fantasy is concerned.
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FAGGY CLAUSE posted:Looking for a book with just some bad rear end character(s). Think I've read all the Gemmell books that I'd be interested in and Abercrombie. Anything else out there I haven't thought of? The Lies of Locke Lamora, if you don't mind badass thieves/con-artists instead of badass fighters(though I guess the gladiators who fight sharks would count as badass fighters).
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I've begun to read Gridlinked. gently caress, those fast POV changes made me think I was reading the script for a Michael Bay movie...
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Just finished Dune for the first time. Can definitely see its influence on other books I've read (especially considering I just finished the Wheel of Time a few weeks ago). Any of the sequels worth reading?
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Rules of thumb for Dune: - Read the Frank Herbert books until you feel like they are getting too weird or out there or you can't follow them. The first two sequels are widely considered to be not quite as good as Dune, but still good. (Dune Messiah and Children of Dune) This is sometimes called the "Dune trilogy", although there are actually six Dune books Herbert wrote. The sixth book ends in a bit of a cliffhanger, and his son and Kevin Anderson picked up from there some years later after he died, however, - Don't read anything not written by Frank Herbert. - No seriously, don't. Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Oct 22, 2014 |
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Oct 22, 2014 13:58
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Yeah the Dune books get progressively weirder/worse. So read them in the order they were written, but when you finish one and are like "meh" then stop because you probably won't like the next one.
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If for some perverse reason you need to read more the House X novels published by Brian Herbert and KJA aren't completely batshit from the get-go, but the decline in quality and stealing ideas from the later novels (even though they're a prequel) gets pretty noticeable about halfway through House Harkonnen. And then the Bulgarian Jihadists series started and made apparent they had no concept of the themes of the originals and it was going to be just crazy hedonist AIs and rape/torture.
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God-Emperor of Dune was without a doubt the best book in the series. Heretics of Dune is also great. Dune Messiah is the weakest of Frank Herbert's books. The last of his books suffers from being part of an unfinished story arc, and I felt the conclusion by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson were not what Frank Herbert was aiming for, and the books themselves are simply not as good.
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God-Emperor of Dune was without a doubt the worst book of the first 4. It's Frank Herbert lecturing you for many pages while little happens. I recommend stopping with Children.
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While you may like subsequent Dune books more than you did prior ones, if at any point while reading the series you decide you're not interested in reading further, there is nothing coming that is going to make you regret the decision to stop.
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Take a lesson from the book itself.quote:Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife — chopping off what’s incomplete and saying: "Now it’s complete because it’s ended here."
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darthbob88 posted:Take a lesson from the book itself. That's kind of the appeal of Heretics to me. The constant unease and confusion. Everybody's become so reliant on prediction and abstraction they've lost sight of the fact that they have absolutely no idea what the gently caress is going on. Also if you stop at 3 you miss out on Moneo and Teg, and then where would you be?
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