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On Terra Firma posted:Has anyone written to the democratic party and said "Hey, your messaging sucks." You'd think the interns might think something's wrong when Jon Stewart yells at them to stop sending him those emails.
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On Terra Firma posted:Has anyone written to the democratic party and said "Hey, your messaging sucks." "Everything is hosed" is a pretty good message to send considering the Democratic Party's messaging for the last n years has been "oh god the republicans will personally kill your grandmother and your puppy tomorrow".
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Oct 22, 2014 19:01
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uncurable mlady posted:"Everything is hosed" is a pretty good message to send considering the Democratic Party's messaging for the last n years has been "oh god the republicans will personally kill your grandmother and your puppy tomorrow". Anyone who refuses to vote Republican believes this anyway.
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Oct 22, 2014 19:07
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On Terra Firma posted:Has anyone written to the democratic party and said "Hey, your messaging sucks." They're raising more legit money than the GOP 
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Oct 22, 2014 19:08
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I do enjoy the subtle irony in that for all their complaining about Republicans trying to control public opinion via fear mongering, the Democrats' best strategy for wringing money out of their base is also fear mongering.
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Oct 22, 2014 19:16
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Turns out fear is a pretty strong motivator.
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Oct 22, 2014 19:19
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Joementum posted:Hint: that chart doesn't show spending by independent groups. Didn't TDS do a segment like a week ago bashing Democrats regarding fundraising emails? I thought it was pretty lovely of TDS to overlook the fact that of course Democrats will have higher fundraising figures -- that's because more of their fundraising is aboveboard.
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Oct 22, 2014 19:20
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Jennie-O Turkey is a tool of the caliphate. Eat Hormel Ham. Hebrew National already controls Wall Street, don't let them control Main Street. Eat Ballpark Franks. Busch did 9/11. Drink Keystone Light. And so on.
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Oct 22, 2014 19:23
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uncurable mlady posted:"Everything is hosed" is a pretty good message to send considering the Democratic Party's messaging for the last n years has been "oh god the republicans will personally kill your grandmother and your puppy tomorrow". That'd never happen! *Republicans revoke ACA and laws against dogfighting, cut Medicaire* The defeatist emails are the stupidest thing, but the messaging has been pretty spot on, yeah.
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Oct 22, 2014 19:26
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richardfun posted:Dear Santa, This could only be more fun if Sarah gave a statement. I have a 2nd cousin who lives in Alaska. He did the Iditarod, not some pansy-rear end snowmobile race. I wonder what he thinks of Palin?
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Oct 22, 2014 19:37
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Chokes McGee posted:That'd never happen! *Republicans revoke ACA and laws against dogfighting, cut Medicaire* How the hell are they going to revoke the ACA? Our congress has never been more anemic, and even if the majority shifts to the Republicans it won't be by enough of a margin to change that. If the Dems keep the majority, then we have a congress nominally controlled by Democrats that can't get anything passed because the Republican house & Senate minority throw a fit about everything. If the Republicans take the majority then we have a congress nominally controlled by Republicans that can't get anything passed because the Dem minorities throw a fit about everything, and anything even remotely conservative they manage to squeeze through the cracks is vetoed, which they will not have the numbers to overturn. The only powers that matter in Government anymore are the judicial branch and the ever expanding executive apparatus. That isn't going to change until the party polarization is lessened or one party wins an overwhelming majority in both chambers, and runs with it.
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Oct 22, 2014 19:53
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On Terra Firma posted:Has anyone written to the democratic party and said "Hey, your messaging sucks." Yeah it was titled the 2010 election.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:09
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There's even a parody site based on the Dems' emails this year: http://emailsfromthedccc.tumblr.com It's hard to tell the parodies from the real emails they're sending.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:22
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Joementum posted:I'm actually starting to feel a bit sorry for those of you who receive these emails. Game over, man! Today Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) performed his yearly ritual in which he invokes some of the wasteful spending he wants to cut. Not surprisingly, most of it is NSF non-applied science grants on things that sound funny if you don't think about them, or any government spending on the arts. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/22/government-waste-includes-swedish-massages-rabbits/ quote:More than a dozen lucky rabbits were given Swedish massages four times a day, courtesy of U.S. taxpayers, as part of a study to figure out whether massage can help recovery times after strenuous exercise — a practice Sen. Tom Coburn says makes a mockery of federal spending. My favorite example of this kind of thing happened last year, courtesy of Eric Cantor inspiring millions of nerds around the country: 
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Oct 22, 2014 20:24
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Yeah it was titled the 2010 election. I think it was a thread title at one point actually
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Oct 22, 2014 20:25
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Joementum posted:I'm actually starting to feel a bit sorry for those of you who receive these emails. How inspiring. Yes We Can't!
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Oct 22, 2014 20:30
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William Bear posted:Game over, man! You know, at least the man is going after things that appear to be an utter waste of funds, rather than openly attacking medicare or food stamps. Progress!
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Oct 22, 2014 20:32
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Talmonis posted:You know, at least the man is going after things that appear to be an utter waste of funds, rather than openly attacking medicare or food stamps. Progress! You say that but making cuts to "seemingly useless" projects is leading to a brain drain of sorts. Scientists are moving to other countries that can fund their research because they suddenly find themselves unable to continue their funding with the government. Because budget cuts and deficits, don'tcha know.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:36
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Talmonis posted:You know, at least the man is going after things that appear to be an utter waste of funds, rather than openly attacking medicare or food stamps. Progress! It's so awesome to me that all Cantor's smug pandering and incessant douchey-ness wasn't enough to keep him in office. Sure he's making a jillion dollars a year at some firm but you know for someone like him, the defeat will never go away and all the money in the world won't make him happy, just like  .
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Oct 22, 2014 20:37
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Talmonis posted:You know, at least the man is going after things that appear to be an utter waste of funds, rather than openly attacking medicare or food stamps. Progress! They only appear to be, though. That study on massages found results that are going to reduce injuries and improve recovery time for athletes and improve physical therapy, saving millions of dollars annually in healthcare spending.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:38
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Unzip and Attack posted:It's so awesome to me that all Cantor's smug pandering and incessant douchey-ness wasn't enough to keep him in office. Sure he's making a jillion dollars a year at some firm but you know for someone like him, the defeat will never go away and all the money in the world won't make him happy, just like RomneyTron. Worse than that I'm afraid. Son of Cantor 2020.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:39
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Unzip and Attack posted:It's so awesome to me that all Cantor's smug pandering and incessant douchey-ness wasn't enough to keep him in office. Sure he's making a jillion dollars a year at some firm but you know for someone like him, the defeat will never go away and all the money in the world won't make him happy, just like So he's a modern day Marcus Crassus?
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Oct 22, 2014 20:44
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Sydin posted:So he's a modern day Marcus Crassus? I very much doubt that anyone is planning to pour molten silver down his throat.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:47
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Chamale posted:They only appear to be, though. That study on massages found results that are going to reduce injuries and improve recovery time for athletes and improve physical therapy, saving millions of dollars annually in healthcare spending. I'm not saying that I agree with Coburn, just that it tends to be worse from just about any other Republican. Though to be honest, Swedish massages on Rabbits seems pretty goddamn stupid on its face. Why wouldn't we just use voluntary (hell, even paid) human testing?
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Oct 22, 2014 20:48
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Talmonis posted:Though to be honest, Swedish massages on Rabbits seems pretty goddamn stupid on its face. Why wouldn't we just use voluntary (hell, even paid) human testing? Because humans won't sit in a cage doing nothing all day eating a carefully paced and monitored diet and doing only precisely the exercise that we need.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:50
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The only bad part about that rabbit study is that they were euthanized in the end. 
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Oct 22, 2014 20:53
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Zeroisanumber posted:Because humans won't sit in a cage doing nothing all day eating a carefully paced and monitored diet and doing only precisely the exercise that we need. That, and researchers have lost the benefit of the doubt when we did some ethically questionable experiments in the past.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:53
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Zeroisanumber posted:I very much doubt that anyone is planning to pour molten silver down his throat. I'd actually donate to the dems if this was the messaging in their emails.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:54
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Normally I'm against experimenting on rabbits, but it's hard to be anti-rabbit massages. Edit: MacheteZombie posted:The only bad part about that rabbit study is that they were euthanized in the end. gently caress.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:55
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MacheteZombie posted:The only bad part about that rabbit study is that they were euthanized in the end. This is the only thing an IRB will let you do to research animals at the end of a study.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:56
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Speaking of which, I remember reading earlier that Dem fundraisers mentioning the Koch brothers were 3x as likely to earn donations than those that didn't. Occasionally I'd open a fundraising email and go "okay fine here's $10 will you leave me alone now" a while back.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:56
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Zeroisanumber posted:Because humans won't sit in a cage doing nothing all day eating a carefully paced and monitored diet and doing only precisely the exercise that we need. I volunteer.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:56
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hobbesmaster posted:This is the only thing an IRB will let you do to research animals at the end of a study. Doesn't mean I approve it! I'll take solace in the fact that those rabbits were probably super chill during it, freshly massaged and full of carrots.
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Oct 22, 2014 20:57
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zoux posted:I volunteer. Do you volunteer at least 20 hours a week? If not, volunteer more. My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Oct 22, 2014 |
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Oct 22, 2014 20:58
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Zeroisanumber posted:I very much doubt that anyone is planning to pour molten silver down his throat. How about just enough colloidal silver to turn him purple?
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Oct 22, 2014 20:59
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MacheteZombie posted:Doesn't mean I approve it! This country and science are already hostile enough to each other. Things getting any worse'd be a disaster.
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Oct 22, 2014 21:09
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AmiYumi posted:Just think about how everything else in this country works. If those rules were any looser, institutions would never pay for new animals, no matter how many scientists protested that no seriously we can't re-use this batch, they are ruined for further experimentation. I figured it was to prevent diseased or weirdly experimented (like dosed with LSD all day or something that changes the rabbits behaviors drastically) rabbits from entering the public sphere, but the re-use concern is probably more correct.
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Oct 22, 2014 21:12
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Zeroisanumber posted:I very much doubt that anyone is planning to pour molten silver down his throat. Stop crushing my dreams. 
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Yeah, made for TV movies of the 80s tells me that you get to keep the glow in the dark rabbits as pets at the end of the study! Or, you get the goose that lays litteral golden eggs, or something...
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Zeroisanumber posted:I very much doubt that anyone is planning to pour molten silver down his throat. "Crown for White Horse!"
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