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Aphrodite posted:The sequels had power armor and sucked. Man, it was so weird and disappointing watching Starship Troopers: Invasion to see if it really was as much better than the original as it supposedly was, only to quickly come to the realization that the people who made it took precisely two things from the first Starship Troopers ((1) space marines shooting space bugs and (2) space nudity), threw them into a vat of pure, undiluted anime, and dumped the resulting mess straight to home video before calling it a day.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:Wasn't the book actually 100% straight-faced zero-irony pro-fascism? I always read it with the opposite interpretation. Johnny Rico is a spoiled rich kid who was judged too dense for any duty beyond "getting shot at" and believes everything someone in a position of authority tells him. Every piece of information or philosophy the book comes up with is meant to be seen through that lens. I thought Verhoeven did a good job of bringing a commentary on the absurdity of fascist totalitarianism to a medium with a 90 minute time limit.
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The MSJ posted:The Michael Bay discussion reminded me of another thing from Age of Extinction. The Bugatti Veyron robot Drift has a face similar to a mengu faceplate on a samurai's helmet. On real samurais, this is supposed to resemble monsters or other terrifying things. Darth Vader's faceplate was based on the same thing. Drift's face resembles a human face, in a movie where humans are hunting down and killing Transformers to melt their bodies down for raw material. This is cool as hell. I never planned to see AoE, but my interest was mildly piqued upon hearing that there was a Ken Watanabe-voiced blue samurai Autobot who turned in a Veyron. I might have to check this one out, although I'm guessing this guy is only in the background and it's the Optimus Murders Everyone Show yet again.  EDIT: haha, the mask even kinda looks like Watanabe.
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If you want a really weird Starship Troopers experience, watch Starship Troopers 3: Maurader. It brings back Capser Van Dien as Johnny Rico for a bizarre Christianity-heavy plot that makes no damned sense. One review: http://io9.com/5803979/in-which-our-critic-ponders-propaganda-and-religion-in-starship-troopers-3-marauder It's like a script written by Kirk Cameron with a director who included enough nudity, violence, and profanity for an R rating. It manages to piss all over the Heinlein and Verhoeven versions in a new, and unique way. And perhaps that is some subtle genius that I'm missing, but drat it's a weirdly bad movie.
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Jedit posted:Yeah. If you want deep meditations on the meaning of life then watch Kurosawa. If you want to watch poo poo exploding at dawn, watch Bay. I don't find it inconsistent that I have both in my DVD collection. It's like food. Just because I eat regular home cooked meals doesn't mean I can't enjoy a pizza now and again; it would only be bad if I lived on pizza rather than eating anything decent. Except that's not really a convincing argument to me because you can make a good action movie that doesn't completely insult the audience. Aliens is a brilliant movie that has compelling characters and story in addition to totally kick-rear end action. The first Transformers movie isn't horrible, but 2 especially is just loud, pointless, racist, sexist, incoherent garbage and what I saw of 3 was just eye-rollingly dumb. Bay can string together a competent narrative but is otherwise basically tone-deaf as a director.
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Oct 21, 2014 00:17
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ninjahedgehog posted:This is cool as hell. I never planned to see AoE, but my interest was mildly piqued upon hearing that there was a Ken Watanabe-voiced blue samurai Autobot who turned in a Veyron. I might have to check this one out, although I'm guessing this guy is only in the background and it's the Optimus Murders Everyone Show yet again. The other 3 Autobots (the ones not named Bumblebee and Optimus) actually have more lines and personality this time.
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Oct 21, 2014 00:32
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Except that's not really a convincing argument to me because you can make a good action movie that doesn't completely insult the audience. Aliens is a brilliant movie that has compelling characters and story in addition to totally kick-rear end action. The first Transformers movie isn't horrible, but 2 especially is just loud, pointless, racist, sexist, incoherent garbage and what I saw of 3 was just eye-rollingly dumb. Bay can string together a competent narrative but is otherwise basically tone-deaf as a director. 2 was also made during the writer's strike, which also hosed up Quantum of Solace, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Pushing Daisies, and is responsible for the first season of Breaking bad being half-length and not ending with Jesse's death.
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I've grown to love writer's strikes. They always begin and end with everyone going " WRITERS am I right? Christ I could do what they do no problem. Who do they think they are? Lucky fucks should be grateful to eat my pizza crust after I wipe my rear end with it." and within five years history has vindicated the writers (creatively at least) as everything that was affected by the strike turned out to be poo poo.
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Roblo posted:I've only really ever heard good things said about Starship Troopers, really. I love it, I even love the third one (what second movie can't hear you lalalalala...)  It's a good day to watch Starship Troopers if you know the reasons why.
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Silly Newbie posted:I always read it with the opposite interpretation. Johnny Rico is a spoiled rich kid who was judged too dense for any duty beyond "getting shot at" and believes everything someone in a position of authority tells him. Every piece of information or philosophy the book comes up with is meant to be seen through that lens. I thought Verhoeven did a good job of bringing a commentary on the absurdity of fascist totalitarianism to a medium with a 90 minute time limit. ...of SCIENCE! posted:hosed up Quantum of Solace
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I actually liked how in Skyfall that finally came full bore in the beginning with Bond basically giving up and saying "gently caress it" and getting really pissed off when Mi6 forced him back in. Unfortunately while Skyfall was very pretty and entertaining that theme was largely lost in the shuffle with Javier Bardem's Joker running amok.
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Oct 21, 2014 02:00
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Unbelievably I think Quantum of Solace has a better written plot than Skyfall. What really sucks is that Skyfall was so well received that we'll get more of that flashy nonsense instead of a well-written spy thriller to (hopefully) tie up the Quantum storyline.
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Except that's not really a convincing argument to me because you can make a good action movie that doesn't completely insult the audience. Aliens is a brilliant movie that has compelling characters and story in addition to totally kick-rear end action. The first Transformers movie isn't horrible, but 2 especially is just loud, pointless, racist, sexist, incoherent garbage and what I saw of 3 was just eye-rollingly dumb. Bay can string together a competent narrative but is otherwise basically tone-deaf as a director. Again, watch Pain and Gain. It's on Netflix Instant and is a legitimately good (if exceedingly weird) movie that completely redeems Michael Bay as a director in my mind. I still think he's a lovely human being but he's clearly just doing the Transformers movies for the paychecks at this point.
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Polaron posted:Again, watch Pain and Gain. It's on Netflix Instant and is a legitimately good (if exceedingly weird) movie that completely redeems Michael Bay as a director in my mind. I still think he's a lovely human being but he's clearly just doing the Transformers movies for the paychecks at this point. I don't defend people like Micheal Bay very often but cosider that Hasboro and whatever production company were going to make the movie anyway, approached you with a multi-million dollar check and a script already banged out and wanted to pay you a STUPID amount of money to direct a movie that has no brain but is designed for teenagers. You'd have to be a mental case to turn it down. Most directors agree that the "one of you, one for me" system (making a movie you don't love for the paycheck that funds the movie you do love) is fine. Micheal Bay gets poo poo on because he almost never does movies for more than the paycheck.
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Pook Good Mook posted:Unbelievably I think Quantum of Solace has a better written plot than Skyfall. Quantum of Solace is the best James Bond movie. It's imperfect, but it is excellent nonetheless. Goldeneye is a close second, or perhaps tie.
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Polaron posted:Again, watch Pain and Gain. It's on Netflix Instant and is a legitimately good (if exceedingly weird) movie that completely redeems Michael Bay as a director in my mind. I still think he's a lovely human being but he's clearly just doing the Transformers movies for the paychecks at this point. Fair enough. I've heard good and bad things about it from people whose opinions I respect, so I might just have to give it a shot myself! Ammanas posted:Quantum of Solace is the best James Bond movie. It's imperfect, but it is excellent nonetheless. Goldeneye is a close second, or perhaps tie. Quantum of Solace was underrated, as far as I'm concerned, but nowhere near the best. You've got to admit Dominic Greene is a pretty lame villain. Regardless I do hope they come back to Quantum for the next two movies (because I think Daniel Craig is signed on for at least two more), there's a lot of potential there to have that become the modern equivalent of SPECTRE. Anyways, so I'm not just reviewing movies, here's my subtle moment: Today in class we screened Coffee and Cigarettes, and a classmate caught something I completely missed. The skit between Tom Waits and Iggy Pop ends with both of them disappointed that neither had any music in the restaurant's jukebox. Later on, in the skit with Jack and Meg White, the music playing in the background is an Iggy Pop song.
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Fair enough. I've heard good and bad things about it from people whose opinions I respect, so I might just have to give it a shot myself! Do it. It's a great absurd dark comedy with the added wrinkle of it being a "true story." Michael Bay's style may irritate some but he's absolutely perfect for this material.
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Fair enough. I've heard good and bad things about it from people whose opinions I respect, so I might just have to give it a shot myself! Yeah. His evil plot is doubling the price of water... and a guy got away with the exact thing in real life, but he tripled it instead.
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mind the walrus posted:Do it. It's a great absurd dark comedy with the added wrinkle of it being a "true story." Michael Bay's style may irritate some but he's absolutely perfect for this material. The "still a true story" moment is such an amazing self aware remark within the movie it's hard not to choose it as Bay's best.
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mind the walrus posted:I've grown to love writer's strikes. They always begin and end with everyone going " The Breaking Bad thing makes all that poo poo worth it though.
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Quantum of Solace was underrated, as far as I'm concerned, but nowhere near the best. You've got to admit Dominic Greene is a pretty lame villain. Regardless I do hope they come back to Quantum for the next two movies (because I think Daniel Craig is signed on for at least two more), there's a lot of potential there to have that become the modern equivalent of SPECTRE. Goldfinger: I am going to be rich by putting together a consortium of the US's toughest gangsters, break into the most secure vault in the world and detonate a nuclear bomb. Dom Greene: I am going to be rich by signing you up to a phone plan that doesn't include any free texts.
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Ammanas posted:Quantum of Solace is the best James Bond movie. It's imperfect, but it is excellent nonetheless. Goldeneye is a close second, or perhaps tie.
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Preeeeetty sure the best James Bond movie would actually feature the best James Bond. Yes. 
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Yeah, part 2 was complete and utter dogshit that was basically just a generic horror movie set in the same universe. Part three however managed to recapture a bit of the original satirical spark and is firmly in the bad-but-in-a-really-fun-way territory. I mean you can't tell me this isn't a milestone of cinema (note that the singer is the in-universe sky marshal, i.e. commander in chief of the whole military): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIsv1YOFNys
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Wild T posted:Transformers 2 contains the ultimate statement on Michael Bay-style action movies. A scene early on has a US military officer tell the transformers that if they don't do whatever he wants him to do, they will have to leave the Earth forever. For all their talk about being intergalactic robo-aliens from the end of the universe, the Transformers proved to actually be pretty fragile and squishy, easily taken down by groups of fighter jets deployed by a country, say, the United States, that was spurned by them. After that, would you want to be the country that back-sassed 'murica and earned themselves a thorough shelling?
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Tunicate posted:Yeah. His evil plot is doubling the price of water... and a guy got away with the exact thing in real life, but he tripled it instead.
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Calaveron posted:For all their talk about being intergalactic robo-aliens from the end of the universe, the Transformers proved to actually be pretty fragile and squishy, easily taken down by groups of fighter jets deployed by a country, say, the United States, that was spurned by them. After that, would you want to be the country that back-sassed 'murica and earned themselves a thorough shelling? If they went to, say, Russia or China or any country with a sizable force the US wouldn't be able to do squat without both causing a massive (potentially escalating to nuclear) war on their hands. Hot drat I want to see a depressing, nihilist Russian transformers as a found-footage film through their insurance-mandated dashcams. Optimus Prime as a broken, depressed robot Snowden who drinks robot vodka all day and heard through the grapevine that Shia is still locked up in Gitmo.
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Perestroika posted:Yeah, part 2 was complete and utter dogshit that was basically just a generic horror movie set in the same universe. Part three however managed to recapture a bit of the original satirical spark and is firmly in the bad-but-in-a-really-fun-way territory. I mean you can't tell me this isn't a milestone of cinema (note that the singer is the in-universe sky marshal, i.e. commander in chief of the whole military): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIsv1YOFNys Courage. Duty. Honor. 
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Perestroika posted:Yeah, part 2 was complete and utter dogshit that was basically just a generic horror movie set in the same universe. Part three however managed to recapture a bit of the original satirical spark and is firmly in the bad-but-in-a-really-fun-way territory. I mean you can't tell me this isn't a milestone of cinema (note that the singer is the in-universe sky marshal, i.e. commander in chief of the whole military): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIsv1YOFNys This scene made me realize that the writer not only intended to bring back Casper Van Dien(which was essentially the tag line of the movie) but wanted to bring back NPH as well.
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So, I'm watching "Magnolia" and I noticed in an initial shot of the crowd a man gets his sign taken away by a stage hand. On the sign is "Exodus 8.2". Exodus 8.2 : If you refuse to let them go, I will plague your whole country with frogs.
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Was rewatching Predator the other day and I noticed something new. When Dutch and Mac are looking at Blaine's body after he's shot by the Predator, Mac notes that the wounds were instantly cauterized shut. Even in death, Blaine ain't got time to bleed.
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ninjahedgehog posted:although I'm guessing this guy is only in the background and it's the Optimus Murders Everyone Show yet again. Your not kidding. It even ends with him flying out into space to hunt down and murder loving GOD HIMSELF
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oldpainless posted:Starship Troopers is probably the 3rd greatest sci-fi movie of all time behind Prometheus and Event Horizon. Replace Prometheus (really?) with The Fifth Element or Blade Runner and I'm right there with you. Edit: or Aliens. Or the first Matrix film. But Prometheus, really? Tenkaris has a new favorite as of 20:24 on Oct 31, 2014 |
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Prometheus is like the most divisive movie ever in my lifetime. I've never met anyone that thinks it was just alright. Its either complete garbage or one of the best sci-fi films ever.
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Meet me and I will tell you that it's alright. Behind the Tastee Freez.
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Basebf555 posted:Prometheus is like the most divisive movie ever in my lifetime. I've never met anyone that thinks it was just alright. Its either complete garbage or one of the best sci-fi films ever. It was just alright. Beautiful gorgeous film with no heart or meaning.
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syscall girl posted:It was just alright. Beautiful gorgeous film with no heart or meaning. P. much this but the people who love it or the people who hate it really like to talk about how much they love or hate it and how the other side is WRONG WRONG WRONG
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Just watching Transformers for some ridiculous reason, the scene with the CD Player decepticon Frenzy on board Airforce 1. It gets in a shootout with a bunch of secret service and takes them all down throwing sharp discs. Afterwards more agents come and it finds itself out of ammo. The agents rush past an alcove where Frenzy is transforming back into a C.D Player, once the disguise is complete the player turns on and the screen on the front says "No Disc." Cos it's out of ammo, see?
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