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ComradeCosmobot posted:Unsubstantiated outside of Drudge's fear-mongering yet, but there are claims the guy went bowling yesterday and took an Uber
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Oct 23, 2014 23:31
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:Didn't they trace the first Ebola infection in West Africa to a toddler? Sheng-ji Yang posted:The index patient of this entire epidemic was an infant. I was going to add a bunch of ironic smilies to my post before I saw this was the DnD thread, but yes.
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Oct 23, 2014 23:35
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Tim Raines IRL posted:there are lots of things capitalism is good at; innovating novel drugs for (at the time) obscure problems isn't one of them, and this is why I have believed so strongly for so long that there's a need for seriously well funded public drug research. It's in the public interest, duh. I'd go as far as saying not only should the USG be outspending the 3-4 biggest drug firms on this, but that anything found as a result of this public research should be public domain forever. Along these lines Hendra virus, a type of henipavirus which fatally infected both people and horses had a vaccine quickly researched and made because the horse race industry ($$$) was threatened in Australia. Things are looking bleak for treatment of rapidly emerging antibiotic resistant pathogens as well. The development of new antibiotics has been decreasing steadily since the early 1980s. The cost of research and development of antibiotics (there are estimates that it costs ~$1 billion to bring an antibiotic from discovery to market) is prohibitive and the reward is often small. There are being steps made to help incentivize development at the moment (via the GAIN act). The problem with antibiotic profitability for drug companies is that you take them when you need them, which is not often compared with things like psych meds.
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Oct 23, 2014 23:40
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mod sassinator posted:A two year old is probably extra bad because you need to change their diaper. Very easy to get contaminated I bet. I hate to make assumptions, but I'm guessing diapers are probably not a factor in much of the affected areas, which is arguably worse. And children that age are pretty much germ dispensers regardless, so like R0++ or whatever.
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Oct 23, 2014 23:45
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Here's more info on the case in Mali http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/23/ebola-mali_n_6038026.html quote:Mali's Health Minister Ousmane Kone told state television that the patient in the western town of Kayes was a two-year-old girl who had recently arrived from neighboring Guinea, where the outbreak began.
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Oct 23, 2014 23:46
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DinosaurEggSalad posted:So am I correct in assuming this Buzzfeed article, which only quotes sources in the Liberian medical establishment, might be a bit overly rosy? A bit earlier, but in a word: absolutely. The Liberian government is basically saying "the Ebola treatment unit beds are empty; therefore, EVD is under control!" Foreign sources are saying Liberia is up to 50 new cases per day, and that the reason people aren't going to the treatment centers is because they don't want to have to cremate their dead - therefore, traditional burial practices will keep going, and things are going to get much worse. Ebola Roulette posted:Here's more info on the case in Mali 10 days in Bamako. Oh boy.
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Oct 24, 2014 00:39
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Johnny Cache Hit posted:
And it doesn't look to be one of the nicer parts.
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Oct 24, 2014 00:44
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Johnny Cache Hit posted:Foreign sources are saying Liberia is up to 50 new cases per day, and that the reason people aren't going to the treatment centers is because they don't want to have to cremate their dead - therefore, traditional burial practices will keep going, and things are going to get much worse.
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Oct 24, 2014 01:14
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Is the juice actually on the loose in the NYC?
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Oct 24, 2014 01:28
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Nessus posted:Well, these traditional burial practices seem to be the main way the virus is being spread, outside of hospitals anyway. That and taking care of sick relatives. This pattern has happened before, early in the epidemic. Aid agencies were actually thinking of spooling down a response because cases were going down down down! In reality people were too scared of the doctors and were staying home, infecting their families. katlington posted:Is the juice actually on the loose in the NYC? MIGF is trolling us from probation. Possibly. The CDC is probably getting started doing contact tracing just in case, but we're still waiting on the test results.
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Oct 24, 2014 01:31
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he's pozzed up http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/nyregion/craig-spencer-is-tested-for-ebola-virus-at-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html?smid=tw-bna
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Oct 24, 2014 01:36
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DARPA Dad posted:he's pozzed up http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/nyregion/craig-spencer-is-tested-for-ebola-virus-at-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html?smid=tw-bna Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Oct 24, 2014 01:46
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DARPA Dad posted:he's pozzed up http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/nyregion/craig-spencer-is-tested-for-ebola-virus-at-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html?smid=tw-bna Welp, hope it was early enough. Dude reported a 103° F fever the day after his subway ride and bowling. He may have been ever so slightly contagious that night, but hopefully no aerosol generating behaviors.
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Oct 24, 2014 01:46
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Do we have a donation thread yet for MSF?
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Oct 24, 2014 01:50
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FAUXTON posted:Welp, hope it was early enough. Dude reported a 103° F fever the day after his subway ride and bowling. He may have been ever so slightly contagious that night, but hopefully no aerosol generating behaviors. Fairly similar to the woman who took the plane ride and she didn't spread it. This sounds even lower probability than that.
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Oct 24, 2014 01:51
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FAUXTON posted:Welp, hope it was early enough. Dude reported a 103° F fever the day after his subway ride and bowling. He may have been ever so slightly contagious that night, but hopefully no aerosol generating behaviors. A ROUND OF DRINKS ON ME! I HAVE TO LICK EVERY DRINK THOUGH!
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Oct 24, 2014 01:51
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asdf32 posted:Fairly similar to the woman who took the plane ride and she didn't spread it. This sounds even lower probability than that. Vinson had a 99 degree fever. This seems different.
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Oct 24, 2014 01:54
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FAUXTON posted:Welp, hope it was early enough. Dude reported a 103° F fever the day after his subway ride and bowling. He may have been ever so slightly contagious that night, but hopefully no aerosol generating behaviors. That said I'm pretty sure there is enough super powered bacteria on the subway to kill any other pathogen that tries to move in on its turf. redreader posted:A ROUND OF DRINKS ON ME! I HAVE TO LICK EVERY DRINK THOUGH! Well he was near Williamsburg.
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Oct 24, 2014 01:59
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CNN fear mongering has only just begun. A case in NY is like their wet dream for stupid housewives.
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Oct 24, 2014 02:04
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So why wasn't a dude who treated Ebola patients in West Africa under some kind of official quarantine for 21 days after he got back? Especially after all this new bullshit with TED?
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Oct 24, 2014 02:11
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The stock ticker for PPE maker lakeland industries (NASDAQ:LAKE) is going to go apeshit again tomorrow. Full disclosure: I don't own any shares of lakeland industries
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Oct 24, 2014 02:13
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Now that it's in NYC: "Ebolavirus 2014: Saturday Night Fever" (Maybe I'm dating myself  )E: Step 25 of new CDC doffing procedure: Head to high density transportation facilities, sweating as profusely as possible, then have intimate contact with your SO / close family contact. Red Dad Redemption fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Oct 24, 2014 02:13
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Peven Stan posted:The stock ticker for PPE maker lakeland industries (NASDAQ:LAKE) is going to go apeshit again tomorrow.
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Peven Stan posted:The stock ticker for PPE maker lakeland industries (NASDAQ:LAKE) is going to go apeshit again tomorrow. So happy I sold all my stocks today..by pure dumb luck (it was to rebalance my ira portfolio after doing well on a geared 3x Nasdaq100 ETFs). Markets going to take a massive poo poo tomorrow (that said Ebola drops made pretty crazy ROIs recently).
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Oct 24, 2014 02:53
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So when can we start panicking? Am I allowed to start preparing a bug out bag now, or should I wait to see how many infectees the CDC missed?
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Oct 24, 2014 02:54
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E Depois do Adeus posted:So when can we start panicking? Am I allowed to start preparing a bug out bag now, or should I wait to see how many infectees the CDC missed? You needed to head for the hills yesterday. RIP
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Oct 24, 2014 02:59
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gfanikf posted:So happy I sold all my stocks today..by pure dumb luck (it was to rebalance my ira portfolio after doing well on a geared 3x Nasdaq100 ETFs). Futures are down <1% so maybe not. 
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Oct 24, 2014 03:00
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E Depois do Adeus posted:So when can we start panicking? Am I allowed to start preparing a bug out bag now, or should I wait to see how many infectees the CDC missed? Lol if you don't already have one. Sorry about your imminent ebola, chum....p. e: or just continue on as normal until we see if NY fucks up as bad as we did in Texas.
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Oct 24, 2014 03:02
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thompson posted:CNN fear mongering has only just begun. A case in NY is like their wet dream for stupid housewives. The only thing they would want more is a case on a cruise ship near Malaysia Gonna be so much fun around here with the panicking
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Oct 24, 2014 03:09
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E Depois do Adeus posted:So when can we start panicking? Am I allowed to start preparing a bug out bag now, or should I wait to see how many infectees the CDC missed?
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Oct 24, 2014 03:12
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Vertical Lime posted:The only thing they would want more is a case on a cruise ship near Malaysia The b roll is making me laugh. I've seen the same ambulance 10 times in maybe a 15 minute session. Nothing breeds panic like lights, sirens, New York, and full on nuclear holocaust suits.
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Oct 24, 2014 03:12
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thompson posted:The b roll is making me laugh. I've seen the same ambulance 10 times in maybe a 15 minute session. Nothing breeds panic like lights, sirens, New York, and full on nuclear holocaust suits. Axe attack helps too. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/police-shoots-kills-man-ax-queens-article-1.1984914 ComradeCosmobot posted:Futures are down <1% so maybe not. Eh if last time was any indication it seems some decline is going to happen, especially factoring in that its in NYC and people "thought it was contained."
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Oct 24, 2014 03:14
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Have we killed all the dogs in New York city yet?
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Oct 24, 2014 03:17
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KinkyJohn posted:Why would it cost 1.5 BILLION dollars to bring a vaccine to market? Developing drugs are expensive. From hiring all the PhDs and MDs to regulatory issues to the high cost of human trials and the extremely high failure rate.
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Oct 24, 2014 03:17
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WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE
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Oct 24, 2014 03:18
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England Sucks posted:WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE
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Oct 24, 2014 03:18
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Nessus posted:Yeah but not from the Ebola we're going to die from ebola, in 2014
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gfanikf posted:Eh if last time was any indication it seems some decline is going to happen, especially factoring in that its in NYC and people "thought it was contained." Down yes, but you said "massive poo poo". I'd say there's a 30% chance the market ends down less than 1%, 75% chance the market ends down less than 2% assuming no other bad news beyond this and Amazon's bad quarterly.
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