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ulmont posted:I'm mildly depressed but not surprised to read that. Seems like something fairly important and relevant happened in between the first two that might have been worth looking at... Yeah sorry that wasn't very clear, it was more of a "Kim gets uppity so let's re-unify the peninsula '99" type thing than the actual Korean War.
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bewbies posted:there's been exactly one realistic war movie ever made and it was jar head and everyone hated it because it was kind of boring.
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:Oh, my bad, dude. the "And so on" sounded dismissive. It's ok, was I you I probably would have assumed the same. Tone is hard to communicate on the internet. JaucheCharly posted:Just the kind of stuff that people liked to do before there was tv. One of my favorite things of this nature is the early modern Venetian Bridge Wars, where large teams of citizens would arrange to meet up and have mock battles over who controlled bridges. The fights could involve dozens or hundreds of participants armed with clubs, and people were regularly maimed and killed.
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EvanSchenck posted:One of my favorite things of this nature is the early modern Venetian Bridge Wars, where large teams of citizens would arrange to meet up and have mock battles over who controlled bridges. The fights could involve dozens or hundreds of participants armed with clubs, and people were regularly maimed and killed. 
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Oct 23, 2014 21:12
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HEY GAL posted:According to the conclusion of this book, they still do that. I want to take part in some Bridge Shoving, No you don't. Do you have any idea how bad Venice smells? The canals in particular?
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my dad posted:No you don't. Do you have any idea how bad Venice smells? The canals in particular?
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my dad posted:No you don't. Do you have any idea how bad Venice smells? The canals in particular? 
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I went to Venice when I was like 14 and didn't notice much in the way of smell, at least nothing worse than any city or dock/canal area. I grew up on the FL gulf coast, about a mile from marshes/beaches, down the street from a river. I may have been used to that river/marsh miasma smell.
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I heard it smells like sewage. The place where I live doesn't smell like roses. There's a refinery a few miles away that occasionally cloaks the whole area with a smell similar to ripe diapers.
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Arquinsiel posted:Honestly it smelled fine when I was there It depends on the tides and algae activity, I think. The smell can go from "salty smell of the sea" all the way to "something crawled inside a guy's rear end and died, and then the guy started playing the Italian anthem with farts, taking a break at 'L'Italia chiamo! Sě!' to chug a can of diesel fuel, and continuing to fart some more"
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Have you published any of your poetry?
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gradenko_2000 posted:Those look like IRL versions of Yo buddy, I already made the warhammer reference. Step off. FAUXTON posted:Battleship/Dreadnought doctrine always struck me as the waterlogged version of whatever decision tree it was that brought us the Paris Gun. Decision tree, no. Tech tree? Yes. I mean you already teched to it, even if it sucks you should at least give it a shot. Otherwise it's a waste of time and money. Frostwerks fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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I live beside a Cadbury's factory, so my context for "smells normal" is probably totally different to most people's.
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You want Warhammer tanks? Have a Warhammer tank. The French Char 2C, a 70 ton tank made a little too late for WWI, so only 10 were ever built. Like a muscle car, its engines are so huge, they stick up above the hull, prohibiting the turret from shooting backwards. All those guys next to it? Not even the whole crew. It took 12-13 men to run this bad boy. When WWII started, 55 mm of armour wasn't really that big a deal and 17 kph didn't impress anyone, so no glorious victories were achieved by this tank.
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Arquinsiel posted:They made a sequel to it. As far as I can tell it just shares the word "Jarhead" in the title.
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 Yo thread i found a thing, click on the thinghttp://i.imgur.com/D4nX77F.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8DTpIJ9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/IR9pkKY.jpg 
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From what ive heard the Parthians gave Roman legions headaches due to their horsearcher military strategy. How did they manage this without the stirrups that the Mongols had?
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The short answer is that the Roman army, being predominantly heavy infantry, simple didn't have the cavalry necessary to contest the Parthians in a straight up fight against a highly mobile army. The lack of stirrups didn't have a whole lot to do with it to be honest. Auxiliary cavalry and archers only had a limited amount of success. The Parthians also used heavily armored cataphracts to fend off any attempts by Roman cavalry or infantry to engage Parthian horse archers. The Romans did eventually have success against the Parthians, especially under Trajan and Hadrian, but in those campaigns they mostly avoided battles and went straight for besieging Parthian cities, which is something the Romans were much better at.
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Ensign Expendable posted:You want Warhammer tanks? Have a Warhammer tank. So uh, would this win in a fight against the TOG II?
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SeanBeansShako posted:So uh, would this win in a fight against the TOG II? Against the TOG I, both tanks would fire at each other fruitlessly, and then both tanks would break down, and the crews would have to get out and have a fistfight. At that point, the French would win because they have more than twice as many guns. The TOG II and TOG II* actually have functional guns that will be able to knock out the Char 2C.
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Space Monster posted:From what ive heard the Parthians gave Roman legions headaches due to their horsearcher military strategy. How did they manage this without the stirrups that the Mongols had? What advantage do you think stirrups provide?
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If you rode horses bareback all day every day, how ripped and also hosed up would your legs be?
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I don't wanna sound foolish, but what do condoms or not wearing them have to do with riding a horse? vvv: Oh. Grand Prize Winner fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Grand Prize Winner posted:I don't wanna sound foolish, but what do condoms or not wearing them have to do with riding a horse? ...you do realize that the term bareback originally referred to riding a horse without a saddle, right (a horse with a bare back)?
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:If you rode horses bareback all day every day, how ripped and also hosed up would your legs be? Very. Also, crazy core strength. But to be fair, I think even with a saddle and stirrups, riding horses all day every day is still going to gently caress your legs up something proper.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:Very. Also, crazy core strength. Back in the day everyone wanted to gently caress the guys with crazy bowlegs cause it meant they were part of the horse having elite. Changing definitions of physical attractiveness and all that.
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This is a stupid rear end question but I kinda do wanna know if anyone could give me a brief rundown on how thermal imaging works? And given the topic, I mean both in general and how it's used in military/police applications. My knowledge on photon physics, god I hope that's right, is pretty loving barren and basically boils down to allowing one to see in darkness and obscurities based on from what I gather heat. This question will seem slightly less stupid when someone gives me a layman's account and I'll reveal the impetus for admitting to my stupididity
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HEY GAL posted:
These are awesome. Am I correct in guessing that the 420 figure that shows up at times is a reference to the German "Big Bertha" heavy siege mortars?
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Frostwerks posted:This is a stupid rear end question but I kinda do wanna know if anyone could give me a brief rundown on how thermal imaging works? It's actually not terribly complicated. Heat sources emit radiation in the infrared (IR) range, outside the visible spectrum. The advantage of this is that it doesn't require any ambient light to function and will work in total darkness, unlike forms of night vision based on image intensification. Visibility can be improved with active illumination, which is basically an IR camera combined with an IR lamp. The light from the lamp is below the visible range so it can't be seen without an IR camera, but if you use the camera everything is lit up for you. IR images used for night vision are often processed digitally and cleaned up to make them easier for a person to read before they pop up on the screen. IR imaging systems used on vehicles and aircraft can be much larger and heavier than portable versions (e.g. they can have cryogenically-cooled sensors) and consequently more sensitive and powerful. quote:And given the topic, I mean both in general and how it's used in military/police applications. My knowledge on photon physics, god I hope that's right, is pretty loving barren and basically boils down to allowing one to see in darkness and obscurities based on from what I gather heat. This question will seem slightly less stupid when someone gives me a layman's account and I'll reveal the impetus for admitting to my stupididity Well, it allows you to see in the dark and to see heat sources. That's really hugely useful for a lot of applications, because people are vehicles are warm and it's usually cool at night, so the kinds of things you want to be able to find quickly at night if you're a police officer or soldier are automatically highlighted for you. Vehicle-based IR can be set up to see through visual obstructions like fog or smoke (although there are varieties of smoke developed for military applications that will block IR as well).
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Space Monster posted:From what ive heard the Parthians gave Roman legions headaches due to their horsearcher military strategy. How did they manage this without the stirrups that the Mongols had? The only discussion about stirrups is centered on heavy cavalry charges and their effectiveness. The people before stirrups designed saddles that mostly compensated for the lack of stirrups. For example; Alexander's Companion cavalry and Parthian Cataphracts both used heavy cavalry charges and they worked very well. For horse archers, this was nowhere even near a problem.
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Obviously contemporary commentators would have had trouble noting the failings of heavy cavalry not possessing an innovation that hadn't been invented yet.
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100.273972602739726 Years Ago Same excuse as last time. Anyway, it's a busy old day. The front doesn't move that much, except for the vital German capture of a coastal bridgehead that can be used to threaten Nieuport and the entire Belgian line. This all is giving the Engineers vital time to do a poo poo-ton of digging all over the place, which will soon become very important. Also it's a bad-taste day in the Daily Telegraph, as German citizens in Britain discover what a "concentration camp" is, and hopefully as the war wears on I'll find time to talk more about prisoners and internees (particularly in terms of those being held by the Allies, it's a relatively neglected subject).
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Do any of the lefties start denouncing the war at this time, or does that only come later?
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Trin Tragula posted:100.273972602739726 Years Ago I feel like we're going to be hearing a lot lot lot more of this moving forward.
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Fangz posted:Do any of the lefties start denouncing the war at this time, or does that only come later? The war's already been widely denounced during the July crisis. Certainly in terms of British participation in it, c.f. Norman Angell and the Neutrality League, who on the eve of war paid for full-page adverts in the left-leaning press (it's irritating me that only the Torygraph and Spectator have their archives available, but there's not much to be done about that) advertising the Neutrality League and denouncing the war as "wicked and stupid". IIRC the big unions were mostly given bungs to shut up, against the possibility of them calling for strikes against the war. OTOH, the Labour Party forced Ramsay Macdonald to resign as leader for continuing to oppose the war after it was declared. I've also just found some great stuff from the Quakers, who as you'd expect were heavily against the war, and who among others are responsible for pushing the concept of legitimate conscientious objection when conscription was brought in. The French Socialists were also heavily against war, and many of them remained so even as they all in their turn went up the line to fight the invading Germans. gradenko_2000 posted:I feel like we're going to be hearing a lot lot lot more of this moving forward.  Advances of 500 yards are still advances, dash it all!
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Fangz posted:Do any of the lefties start denouncing the war at this time, or does that only come later? Generally speaking much, much later. We're talking 3+ years later for most countries. For the most part at this stage they're forming unity governments with the local conservative parties to show their patriotic loyalty to the state. Well, except for Lenin et al who are all either in exile or essentially living in an inner exile trying to just avoid getting arrested.
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Trin Tragula posted:100.273972602739726 Years Ago I'm catching up on the last few days and holy moley: quote:On page 5, Gamages (an enormous and now-closed department store) announces its latest sale with the slogan “TREMENDOUS SLAUGHTER…in prices!”
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Rincewind posted:I'm catching up on the last few days and holy moley: That is quite the lemonade-making.
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PittTheElder posted:Very. Also, crazy core strength.
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This bit was my favorite: quote:The Daily Telegraph is republishing its archives from the war day-by-day...Page 5 is devoted to an advert that appears to suggest tying a small cat to one’s chest (and then sprinkling it with whisky) to defend against a variety of ailments, Aliments like unblemished skin, functioning eyes, etc.
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