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Notorious b.s.d. posted:my grandfather used linux on the desktop in his late 80s, circa 2000? 2001? hmm yes that's completely relevant to my point about new computer users with no past experience (if you don't understand why this is more important than retraining some old hats, well, you probably don't have a very good grasp on what's happening in the job market in america) Notorious b.s.d. posted:it may surprise you that retraining costs are minimized when you don't go out of your way to defy every user expectation you could teach someone how to get around gnome well enough in about an hour, whether they touched a computer before or not. how long would it take you to train someone to use windows? kde? lol
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Soricidus posted:hmm yes, we will find many people who love radical change among the users of this conservative clone of a 1960s os running a gui system from the 1980s unix is from the 70s 
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bobbilljim posted:for real i had to do an assignment on a mac once and I couldnt understand why it didnt terminate when I pressed the red x in teh corner of the window blessèd steve 
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itt we discuss which lunix is clearly the most usable over all other lunixes
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Is windows 2 the OS equivalent of cat 4 cable
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pseudorandom name posted:edit: never mind, this post didn't make any sense and I don't feel like fixing it The the answer was red hat Enterprise Ubuntu
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unfortunately, as 2014 draws to a close, it doesnt look like this will be the year. maybe 2015 will be the year of linux on the desktop
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as 2014 draws to a close we discover the year of linux on the desktop was inside us all along
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Captain Foo posted:Is windows 2 the OS equivalent of cat 4 cable Windows 2 and OS/2 Presentation Manager are what Motif's design is based on and by extension 4D and FVWM Notorious BSD would feel right at home
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Fib posted:as 2014 draws to a close we discover the year of linux on the desktop was inside us all along 
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Symbolic Butt posted:unix is from the 70s this looks like a good desktop experience. it's even making buttcoin look slick and user-friendly.
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bobbilljim posted:for real i had to do an assignment on a mac once and I couldnt understand why it didnt terminate when I pressed the red x in teh corner of the window this is the best feature of macs because its a great test to see if you're a sperg
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⌘+Q for all ur sperg sating needs
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it annoys me that the minimise and close buttons to the same thing.
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bobbilljim posted:it annoys me that the minimise and close buttons to the same thing. i sorry but the tests came back and you're a sperg and theres no cure
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power botton posted:i sorry but the tests came back and you're a sperg and theres no cure finally, I have some closure
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bobbilljim posted:finally, I have some closure Lucky for you Yospos is the best support group out there
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oval office AND PASTE posted:see yall next week for "browser tabs are for idiot children" 
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bobbilljim posted:it annoys me that the minimise and close buttons to the same thing. agreed, op
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what about lxqt? posting from lxqt as we speak a viable alternative for xfce refugees, since xfce is doomed if they don't switch away from gtk+:2
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Tankakern posted:what about lxqt? posting from lxqt as we speak gtk2 is actively maintained
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oval office AND PASTE posted:hmm yes that's completely relevant to my point about new computer users with no past experience (if you don't understand why this is more important than retraining some old hats, well, you probably don't have a very good grasp on what's happening in the job market in america) there are no "new computer users with no past experience," they do not exist. 76% of homes and 100% of schools have computers in them already, and approximately 0% of them are running gnome 3.x. every user who touches gnome 3 has a prior experience with a system that is not gnome 3 windows 95 mostly got poo poo right, and pretending that they didn't so you can ~*~ innovate ~*~ is just the wrong thing to do p.s. you are the one who brought up old people, not me. nice goalpost moving from "your grandma" to "new computer users"
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eschaton posted:Windows 2 and OS/2 Presentation Manager are what Motif's design is based on one of cde's explicit design goals was to provide something as user friendly as windows 3.0 because go figure, they wanted their system to be usable by people familiar with the competition
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windows 95 got poo poo? I remember everyone coming from MS-DOS or Windows 3.1 loving it
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gnome 3 is a masterclass case study in the linux "if it's broken you can fix it yourself" mentality
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win95 is oooooolllllld so we have to throw out everything that was good about it in order to ~~innovate~~~.
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lmao some fuckwit (probably Ian of Deb-Ian) is trying to submit another vote to make Debian init-agnostic and to force packages to be init-agnostic or be removedslogsdon posted:putting linux users in jail is good policy imo
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api call girl posted:lmao some fuckwit (probably Ian of Deb-Ian) is trying to submit another vote to make Debian init-agnostic and to force packages to be init-agnostic or be removed It was Ian Jackson. He is not Ian of Deb-Ian.
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Suspicious Dish posted:It was Ian Jackson. He is not Ian of Deb-Ian. ah well it was a guess from when I skimmed that poo poo Ian Jackson not Ian Murdock gently caress him for that tho
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oval office AND PASTE posted:a very good grasp on what's happening in the job market in america idk, my intuition tells me that the demand for people who can use gnome3 is p low in america's job market
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Tankakern posted:what about lxqt? posting from lxqt as we speak I still use xfce it is fine
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