|
Here, have some more avatars.      
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2014 21:00
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 22:41 |
|
|
If this one was flipped it'd make a great "I deal with so many crappy posts" type of avatar As is it's a good "this is me, shitposting" avatar
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2014 21:03
|
|
|
Alacron posted:Someone here, and I won't say who, is going to have to LP this mod. We must know that saga of Iscar Matthias.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2014 22:01
|
|
|
I whip my snake back and forth.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2014 03:39
|
|
|
In more ways than one, the village is gone 
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2014 21:20
|
|
|
A retranslation would be interesting, I think. Changing Bud and Lou's jokes feels like sacrilege to me, and someone (with what credentials?) going through and "smoothing out" a translation without reference to the original phrasing seems really odd and unnecessary. This part of the game is so sad. This whole drat game is so sad.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 04:41
|
|
|
The beginning of Chapter 4 is pretty drat jarring.Kemix posted:Mother is Earthbound's original name. Earthbound is pretty much the translated name.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 05:08
|
|
|
Earthbound was still going to be the name for 1 before someone decided it wasn't a good idea to make a release outside of Japan.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 05:17
|
|
|
Cheez posted:Earthbound was still going to be the name for 1 before someone decided it wasn't a good idea to make a release outside of Japan. I think it was more that by the time they were ready to release it, the SNES had come out, and they wanted to focus on the new console. It's a lot like what happened to Star Fox 2.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 05:33
|
|
|
The odd thing being they had literally finished the translation and had test carts complete and stable. They got all the way through the process then decided not to actually make any copies to ship. Very strange. Then again, the localization process was rather a lot simpler in those days so it wasn't as much money flushed.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 06:06
|
|
|
CmdrKing posted:The odd thing being they had literally finished the translation and had test carts complete and stable. They got all the way through the process then decided not to actually make any copies to ship. Very strange. Then again, the localization process was rather a lot simpler in those days so it wasn't as much money flushed.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 06:28
|
|
|
Endorph posted:The same thing happened with FFV. That explains a lot about the PS1 port.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 06:47
|
|
|
CmdrKing posted:The odd thing being they had literally finished the translation and had test carts complete and stable. They got all the way through the process then decided not to actually make any copies to ship. Very strange. Then again, the localization process was rather a lot simpler in those days so it wasn't as much money flushed. They didn't think it would make enough money to offset the cost of producing and shipping the carts and w/e else costs come with that, it's not that odd.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 06:48
|
|
|
Genocyber posted:They didn't think it would make enough money to offset the cost of producing and shipping the carts and w/e else costs come with that, it's not that odd. Normally you would run the numbers before spending the money to translate the thing. I would assume by the time ffv came around that square had done enough jrpgs to have a decent guesstimate of cost and sales. Edit: although managers and marketing people are probably the dumbest people in the corporate world. Anything could happen I guess.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 07:24
|
|
|
Genocyber posted:They didn't think it would make enough money to offset the cost of producing and shipping the carts and w/e else costs come with that, it's not that odd. Shwqa posted:Normally you would run the numbers before spending the money to translate the thing. I would assume by the time ffv came around that square had done enough jrpgs to have a decent guesstimate of cost and sales. Yeah, the odd part is more that they got that far int he process before backing down than anything. It took several months to translate a game, and the process to my understanding basically happened after the game was out in japan in those days, so they had quite a lot of time to think about it. I suppose in Mother's case it was so much more ambitious than any other game Nintendo themselves had done on that front they hadn't really realized that it wouldn't be ready until after the SNES was out? FFV is a bit weirder but doesn't really matter, Final Fantasy became such a household name we got that game eventually anyway. Then they completely redid it and apparently that version of the game is the definitive one.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 07:33
|
|
|
Cheez posted:Earthbound was still going to be the name for 1 before someone decided it wasn't a good idea to make a release outside of Japan. And Waffleman is right about why they didn't release the NES version stateside. We kinda dodged a bullet there, to be honest, since it's not a good game. I've heard it still manages to be better than many other NES RPGs, which is a bewildering fact because Mother 1 was grinding hell.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 07:53
|
|
|
"better than many other NES RPGs" is setting a pretty low bar. There was a lot of utter garbage put out for that system.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 08:04
|
|
|
Leavemywife LP'ed the original Mother at some point but he wasn't enjoying it much and I completely understand why. It was a bad game. In the end he got burned out and Explosionface took over. One problem is that it's a huge but mostly empty world and the game doesn't ever tell you where you have to go next. I could compare that to the original Zelda. Thing is, in Zelda it wasn't really a problem if you did some things out of order, but Mother was also trying to tell a coherent plot. If you don't get guided into the next part of the story you'll be lost forever, wondering what to do. Also, the grinding. The game is tough.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 08:19
|
|
|
ultrafilter posted:"better than many other NES RPGs" is setting a pretty low bar. There was a lot of utter garbage put out for that system. If more NES RPGs' glaring problems were unnecessary long grinding and a final area where the enemies are awful (Mt. Itoi for Mother 1, especially those robot women with every damaging PSI attack), they might be looked back upon more fondly. get that OUT of my face fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Oct 25, 2014 |
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 08:40
|
|
|
Y-Hat posted:Ain't that the truth. I remember there was an LP of an NES port of an Ultima game (I think that was the series) where leveling up was discouraged because the enemies would become more difficult as you gained levels, and I'm pretty sure you could screw up so that winning was impossible. That sounds a lot like Ultima: Exodus. Not only would the monsters get much harder all over the world once you leveled up, whenever you won a battle the enemies would leave a treasure chest with 1-100 gold in it, and this wouldn't change even if you were fighting much tougher monsters. But thankfully, even if you had the XP, you never leveled up until you saw the king to cash it in. So even as a kid, I quickly figured out that I should just keep fighting the easy enemies until I could afford all the best equipment I could buy, and save up a big nest egg for later. (you do have to level at some point to advance in the game) But that got real boring, so I'd always quit too early and die horribly. The only reason I kept playing that awful game was cause I really liked the music.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 09:36
|
|
|
FF2 also had a complete, albeit unfinished translation before getting canned as well. In fact, it was the version I used for my LP of it. And I'm a good fan of Mother 1, though of course that's partly because I can put up with NES-level bullshit. That, and I used a walkthrough. It's not too bad as long as you use a guide and use one of the hacks that adds the Easy Ring, which doubles EXP gain I believe, at least, though it's still pretty old and doesn't come close to the feature set of the latter two games. Still has great music like the rest of the series, and it is impressive to see what would become Earthbound done on the NES. Of course, the Let's Play for it also works fine.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 12:43
|
|
|
ultrafilter posted:"better than many other NES RPGs" is setting a pretty low bar. There was a lot of utter garbage put out for that system. For instance, the first three Final Fantasies.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 13:40
|
|
|
Dabir posted:For instance, the first three Final Fantasies. No. I'm not going to say that they were good games, but they were much better than the games I have in mind. Ultima: Exodus was the big one that I was thinking of, but there are a bunch of others that I only half remember and don't really want to go looking for.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 18:42
|
|
|
Mother is a good RPG. A bit grindy, but not nearly as much as others, and I love how there are a fair amount of enemies you just want to run from on account of how dangerous they are. The only outright bad things are the encounter rate and Mt. Itoi (which they didn't have time to properly balanced IIRC).ultrafilter posted:No. I'm not going to say that they were good games, but they were much better than the games I have in mind. Pretty much every Ultima port was trash except for the Genesis port of Ultima IV, which actually manage to transition the game properly rather than cut everything out.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 18:48
|
|
|
Genocyber posted:Pretty much every Ultima port was trash except for the Genesis port of Ultima IV, which actually manage to transition the game properly rather than cut everything out. That one was also good on the NES, surprisingly. But then Ultima V was horrible again and I cursed myself for gullibly thinking they were getting better.
|
|
#
?
Oct 25, 2014 20:46
|
|
|
    Today we'll catch up with the rest of the town and the surrounding areas. Let's start off with a bit of plot.  The rail station is in the middle of the crossroads area. Going to it will trigger Bronson and Jackie jumping off in yellow work uniforms. Since I'm lazy, I'm not going to rip new sprites of these.   But just think about it. No one's seen hide nor hair of Duster since he disappeared three years ago. It's gotta be him. C'mon, now. That's nonsense! Hmm? Oh, it's nothing. There's this concert hall named Club Titiboo past the factory, and the bass player there looks kinda like Duster. Jackie here is convinced he's Duster. But he looks JUST like him...! I really think we should tell old man Wess. Maybe if we knew for sure, but we'd only wind up disappointing Wess if it turns out we're wrong. The guy we saw just happens to look a lot like Duster. We don't know any more than that. Period. You took the words right out of my mouth! I'm starving, too! Well, see ya, Lucas. Tell Flint I say hi. Next, let's introduce a new gameplay mechanic.   If you have anything you don't need or don't want to carry around, I'll gladly hold on to it for you for free! I'll take great care of any items you give me, and I'll return them to you immediately whenever you want them back! Can I hold on to something for you? This guy serves the role of Ninten's/Ness's sister in the other games, where you can store excess items with him. And for free! What a helpful guy! I'm always traveling to one place or another, so if you ever need anything, just let me know anytime!Alright, time to do some more townspeople stuff.   There's a blue, mobile house over there. That interesting one that looks like it was made with whatever was handy at the time. Do you see it there? And do you see that guy next to it, in the knit cap? Apparently, he'll hold on to any items that are weighing you down. I think it'd be more convenient to leave your cumbersome items with him than to walk around with them everywhere you go. Plus, he does it out of the goodness of his heart, so he doesn't charge any money. You're Lucas, right? I've heard rumors that you're a crybaby... You don't look like it to me, though.It's been three years now, I think we've outgrown the whole "crybaby" thing at this point.  I'm a police officer, yeah! I'm going to Club Titiboo to check out a DCMC concert. I wish work would end already... Remember that real tall guy who used to hang around Cross Road? What was his name again? Beanstalk? Anyway, he was actually so tall that he didn't stand out or seem out of place at all. I haven't seen him lately, though...Seems poor Leder decided to get up and leave, which is a shame.  I've only heard the rumors, but are you the ones who stock up on food and then walk around without ever eating it? You really do need to eat, you know. You're still young. I hear there's a place along the tracks where magic butterflies flutter to-and-fro. This one will choose you a random message from a decent selection. Here's all the ones I found. - I say we remodel the old ruins of Osohe Castle and turn it into a Tazmily resort facility. (Anonymous) - If you wanna ride the train, go to the station! You can ride the train if you go to the station! The train speeds along! Along speeds the train! Let's go-go-go to the factory on the train! (Train Station Attendants) - Is the lightning helping us? Thanks to the lightning, all the dirty, old houses are being cleaned away. So, in a way, the lightning is helping all of us. That's what I think. (From a popular citizen) - Happy Boxes are the greatest! Now to develop even bigger screens! (Abbot and Abbey) - I want too bee a Pigmask too. How can I bee wun? I no I can bee a gud wun. Pleese let me bee a Pigmask. Also, I thought Omelets is good. Well, gudbye. (Fried Pork Kid) - After a hard day's work, there's only one thing to do: spend every last DP you own at Club Titiboo! Club Titiboo is a paradise of music! And other stuff, too! Come see the DCMC in concert, live! (Club Titiboo) - I have sand in my shoes, and I don't know what to do. Somebody do something! (Nana) - Why not consider working at the retirement home? Veterans of life are waiting for your kindness. But please stop quitting one after the other. (Retirement Home Director) - Who in the world IS Leder? Try as hard as I might, I just can't remember anything about him. It's keeping me up at night. (Mike) - We've been slowly running out of friends at the castle lately. People of Tazmily, please pass away at a faster pace, if you would be so kind. Thanks. (Anonymous Ghost) - Notice. Scamp has died. That is all. (Staff) - Select, cheerful police officers wanted. Start a new career as an officer of the Tazmily police force! Do well, and you could even make some Pigmask friends! (Pusher, Tazmily Police Dept.) - Watch out for Chimeras. Strange animals known as Chimeras seem to be increasing in number lately. They are dangerous. Be careful of them. (From a brave person) - Show courtesy to Mr. Fassad. There are many ignorant people who complain about him. I think that is a very bad thing to do. "Tazmily is nothing without Mr. Fassad." Please take this to heart. (Isaac) - "Titiboo News" DCMC to debut a new song soon?! Desperado! (Reckless!) Crash! (Powerful!) Mambo! (Sensational!) Combo! (Guys!) No one can stop the DCMC's momentum now! How'd they fit all those messages onto that one billboard anyway?  There's a bit more now in this road to the forest.   This lightning somehow doesn't seem natural. That said, I can't imagine there being such a thing as artificial lightning...  Did you even realize that? Though the person who placed this sign here is really the one to blame. Oh, wait. That's me. Sorry 'bout that.  Inside the temple...  Oh, a kid from the village. You're so nice and unsophisticated. And skipping ahead to Isaac's pad...  Regular ol' mice, run-of-the-mill snakes, and ordinary Dragos... When you think about it, the forest sure was boring until three years ago. Speaking of the forest...   First off, it's surprising how long that music piece took me to find, since it's not actually in the main song list. Second, the enemies here are a little...different.   Slitherhens are the weakest and most common enemies in the forest. They don't do much besides attack and attempt to coil around you (i.e. stun a character).  Though it's a bit unnerving.      A Really Flying Mouse is kinda weird, as despite having similar stats to the Slitherhen, it's a lot tougher. Probably its higher defense making it tougher to wear down.  Or maybe it's just that weird.  There's a gift behind this Grated Yammonster, but that foe is beyond our powers right now with its large HP pool. What to do?  Grab it anyway, since these guys can't actually move.  Looks like Lighter's lucking lightning likes, I mean strikes.   Is he visiting her grave again?And if we visit the mouse on the roof...  Squeak squeak squeeeak. (This house I'm secretly living in got blasted by lightning.)I've noticed.  The Slitherhen has a small chance of dropping a Fresh Egg. The egg itself isn't that special, though a decent healing food at around 80HP. However, over time it will hatch into a Chick and then a Chicken, which is worth a nice 200DP. You can also buy Fresh Eggs from one of the shops in Tazmily, though I don't know if those will also hatch into Chickens.  You can go all the way up to Alec's house, but I decide not to since there's a lot of tough (albeit slow) enemies in the area. There's a mix of foes from Chapter 1 and new guys, and right now Lucas and Boney aren't really up to the task of fighting against them. So that's it for the forest for now. We'll come back to it later. Next, let's go visit the cemetery and Osohe Castle.  Apparently lightning struck his house 14 times over the course of three years.  Oh, Lucas. Your old man's always visiting Hinawa's grave.   We can actually explore Osohe Castle, including the basement, though there's nothing there besides basement enemies.  And a few ghosts, though not as many as before.  We partied and partied for so long, but it finally got old. So more and more of us gave up the party life as time went on. Oh, I'm so very happy you talked to me. Unless we're especially lucky, characters like me without notable personalities often wind up overlooked and ignored. But I'm happy. You talked to me. You've acknowledged me, in other words. Oh, I'm so happy! Here, this is for you! Uh, thanks? Anyway, talking to this ghost again: There are certain strangely-shaped rocks that wash up on shores often. All with the same size. People long ago used to think they looked like a potbellied Buddha, so they called them "Potbelly Stones". In actuality, they're dolphin ossicles. An ossicle is an ear bone, just in case you didn't know. They're extremely hard. Apparently, they wash up on shores because they don't dissolve in the ocean. I bet you could find some in the Cerulean Beach area if you looked. This has been Li'l Ghosty's Mini-Trivia Corner!Yeah sure now please shut up now. Here, I'll give you an actual dolphin ossicle!And so she does.  I've been playing this one song for three years straight. It's like it's my fate to keep singing this song. I know it's a bit old at this point, but would you like to hear it again anyway?It's the same "No-Wall-Staples" song from Duster's chapter, so no need to hear it again. Wow, I'm surprised you came here. This castle's so boring now I could just die. It WAS the setting for an adventure three years ago, though. But there's been nothing at all since then. Nothing. In fact, if you hadn't come and talked to me just now, today would've been yet another empty day leading into another empty tomorrow. So, how about a leisurely chat? No?! Oh, but I want to talk. No? I see. Okay. Whatever. Aaaaahhh! I want to cook! Yes we know the blue gifts have maps shut up already.  This guy will still trade Beef Jerky for Rotten Eclairs. Unfortunately, we don't have a Rope Snake, so this is as far as we're getting here.  As mentioned, Flint spends most of his time either searching for Claus or at Hinawa's grave.  Oh, Lucas.        Wife of Flint. Mother of the twins Claus and Lucas. Daughter of Alec. May the beautiful Hinawa rest in peace here for all time.  Flint left while we were reminiscing. Nothing to do now but head back into town.     Quit ruining this town any more than you already have! I think you guys are behind it somehow! Leave this instant! Keep your grubby hands out of this town's affairs!  You know, if you keep making the veins on your forehead pop out like that, happiness will only escape you. By which I mean your hair, in this case. Well, it's been fun. Please be careful not to trip, get hurt, or go bald on your way home. I'm no bug! I'm an old man!   Don't get in my way! I really wish you would put a Happy Box in your home already, so you can be happy just like everyone else here. Fassad certainly still seems a little intimidated by Lucas, which isn't so surprising. But talking to the people in the square now, it seems Wess's opinion is a minority at this point.  I can't believe the nerve of old man Wess... Even after Mr. Fassad spoke to him in such a friendly way... They're not above using violence against senior citizens, I see. Oh, you picked up a Dolphin Ossicle for me? Actually, I hear a ghost at Osohe Castle knows a whole lot about them, but I don't think it's worth the trouble to go all the way there and ask her about them. But we don't mind buying some from people every once in a while. I can understand why it'd be hard for an old man to watch the town he grew up in change more and more. But that wasn't being very considerate of Mr. Fassad at all. In my opinion, old people should just stay inside the old folks' home and drink tea and do whatever it is old people do.Yeah, it's not like old people are people or anything.  Spent enough time in the forest to get the Shirt and two Hats. Anyway, speaking with Wess will advance the plot.   But curse that Fassad, treating me like a bug! ...Like a stag beetle! Could that moron still be... Lucas!! I'll now lower my voice and talk to you in a whisper! Fassad's cronies are on the lookout for me, so I can't go anywhere or do anything. Please. Find that moron for me. If you do find Duster, send this dove to let me know.  Thanks, Lucas. I'd go myself, but everyone's on the lookout for me.Before we set out, we can talk to Alec again for new dialogue.  Oh, Lucas. How've you been? I was dozing off just now when that really tall fellow at Cross Road appeared in my dream. Do you remember him, Lucas? I wonder what ever happened to him. Where is he now?Anyway, on to Club Titiboo!   But the conductor's out on the town, so I don't think the train'll be coming back today.Welp. If you REALLY want to go to the factory, then I suggest walking along the train tracks. Don't tell anyone I said that, though.Fine, we'll just walk down the train tracks and-    I dunno what reasons you got, but it looks like you wanna go through this tunnel, right? I know you won't listen to me if I try and stop you, so here, I'll give you this instead. Do you know what the most frightening things inside the tunnel are? Nope, they're not Slitherhens or Muttshrooms or anything like that. Trains are the most dangerous things of all in there. So be very careful not to get hit by any.Thank you for your concern! Next time, we'll recklessly walk on train tracks to reach our destination!
|
|
#
?
Oct 26, 2014 23:30
|
|
|
I always knew Mr. T was considerate.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2014 00:02
|
|
|
Nothing says "coming of age" story like a walk down some railroad tracks. Hopefully Lucas doesn't find the body of any young boys. Like Claus.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2014 02:19
|
|
|
There's a video game on TV. A boy and a dog are walking on railroad tracks. I better go too.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2014 03:46
|
|
|
I pity d'foo who don't know his railway safety.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2014 04:24
|
|
|
You should've tried walking on the tracks before talking to Wess. Mr. T will save your life.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2014 17:19
|
|
|
Good on Wess. Gotta love that the old man still has some fight in him after being exiled to the old folks' home.
|
|
#
?
Oct 27, 2014 23:40
|
|
|
Scamp has died. That is all.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2014 07:40
|
|
|
Mega64 posted:- Is the lightning helping us? Thanks to the lightning, all the dirty, old houses are being cleaned away. So, in a way, the lightning is helping all of us. That's what I think. (From a popular citizen) Shut up, Fassad.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2014 13:08
|
|
|
Hawaiian Shirt posted:Scamp has died. That is all. I actually got kinda sad when I read that, just because how simple the message is. He has just died and no one probably cares.
|
|
#
?
Oct 29, 2014 15:08
|
|
|
quote:- Is the lightning helping us? Thanks to the lightning, all the dirty, old houses are being cleaned away. So, in a way, the lightning is helping all of us. That's what I think. (From a popular citizen) Edit: That Isaac note really sounds like the old W. Bush-era standby of "you don't have to like the president, but you need to respect his office," doesn't it? get that OUT of my face fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Oct 30, 2014 |
|
#
?
Oct 30, 2014 00:46
|
|
|
Wess posted:Lucas!! I'll now lower my voice and talk to you in a whisper! I don't know why but the fact that Wess feels the need to state this is really drat funny to me.
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2014 09:02
|
|
|
It looks like the pig army has invaded my local Sam's club, because they sell happy boxes now. 
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2014 09:24
|
|
|
But does it make a strange wobbling sound?
|
|
#
?
Oct 31, 2014 13:41
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 22:41 |
|
|
Man, Tazmily must have a really good fire brigade now if all that lightning doesn't even touch the other houses.
|
|
#
?
Nov 2, 2014 21:08
|
|
