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Did they discuss the new borderlands in the latest bombcast?
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Oct 24, 2014 19:53
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Yes, with nothing much new said. Jeff still has incredibly personal negative opinions and Dan still generally likes it. They don't hate the Oz mechanic as much.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:02
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Captain Invictus posted:Oh, Jake/Chris, tell Sean he's had my number(my username at gmail dot com) for almost a year if he actually wants any of that stuff. You should just ambush them with flying donkeys regardless if they ask for it.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:03
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kater posted:Yes, with nothing much new said. Jeff still has incredibly personal negative opinions and Dan still generally likes it. They don't hate the Oz mechanic as much. Roughly how far in is the chat?
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Oct 24, 2014 20:04
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:I had to struggle to think of anything coming this season, too, mainly because near every game has been delayed into 2015.  As for Alien Isolation - have you ever played the Marine campaign in AvP Gold? That was some of the scariest poo poo I ever went through in a shooter - and it was legitimately scary, rather than jump-scare stuff like Condemned or Res Evil. Tae posted:I mean, there's plenty of games but if you are not interested in the first 10 months of this year it's honestly a loss cause, especially if you're swearing off Nintendo for some reason. As for "Swearing off nintendo" I already said I can't really justify the expense of another console. So it is also a similar reason why I didn't bother with Titanfall, and (as I think I mentioned) Shadow of Mordor - games this year have been very, very clearly distributing nerfed versions for last-gen consoles, but without a large enough catalog I have a tough time spending a few hundred bucks on a console. I never had a desire to buy a Wii, and while the new one is kinda cool I don't really have interest in most of the catalog or gimmicks. coyo7e fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Oct 24, 2014 20:07
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Jippa posted:Roughly how far in is the chat? Somewhere between 20 and 30 minutes in, I think?
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Oct 24, 2014 20:10
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Captain Novolin posted:Somewhere between 20 and 30 minutes in, I think? Cheers mate.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:11
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Dan talks about it when they get to what he's playing, after the Bayonetta stuff.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:13
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kater posted:Yes, with nothing much new said. Jeff still has incredibly personal negative opinions and Dan still generally likes it. They don't hate the Oz mechanic as much. I still don't understand Gerstmann. Say what you want about the meme filled writing of Borderlands 2 but how can you say the original game is interesting in any capacity? Leaving out the gameplay you have the most generic setup for a video game. The NPCs in the first Diablo are more colorful.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:14
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al-azad posted:I still don't understand Gerstmann. Say what you want about the meme filled writing of Borderlands 2 but how can you say the original game is interesting in any capacity? Leaving out the gameplay you have the most generic setup for a video game. The NPCs in the first Diablo are more colorful. And saying the NPCs in Diablo are more interesting than Borderlands is just a flat-out lie or you're badly misremembering both games. After running the same borderlands campaign a dozen times it got really tiresome, but the first time you run into scooter for instance, is really great.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:18
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I'm completely torn on the whole borderlands thing. The premise (diablo with guns) is exactly what I want, The execution of the games I have so many issues with. I'm sure this isn't a unique position and one of the few I shared with jeff.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:22
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coyo7e posted:It was arguably the first shooter to add RPG elements which was extremely interesting. It was also possibly the first good shooter which was mostly comedic and it was GOOD comedy, unlike, say, a lot of the stuff in Bulletstorm (and I love that game and its writing as well). And the cell-shaded art style was pretty shocking at the time - it was kind of a big deal when peolpe found out that they'd revamped the artstyle and added those comic-book-esque outlines to everything. From a game journo perspective it was really great to see something so fresh, doing so well. I stand by what I say because all the NPCs just sit in a chair, give you a mission and you're on your way. Borderlands 2 is a better game up and down, from weapons to mission structure and the NPCs have a bit more dynamic interactions with each other. But Gerstmann hates it for its internet humor and ignores that it's objectively a better playing, more varied, deeper game.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:27
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I just want somebody too take the idea and do it well. I dislike large amounts of borderlands from the level design to the loot (never mind the fluff), but they are the only people making this sort of game (I'm on pc).
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Oct 24, 2014 20:31
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I enjoyed borderlands 2 a lot more than 1,bur I also stopped playing 1 after the first or second dlc hit, so I could see someone burning out on it and not wanting to play a sequel that, while good, is still more of the same in a lot of ways.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:33
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Captain Novolin posted:I enjoyed borderlands 2 a lot more than 1,bur I also stopped playing 1 after the first or second dlc hit, so I could see someone burning out on it and not wanting to play a sequel that, while good, is still more of the same in a lot of ways. That's the thing. BL2 is great on one hand but still has all the things I hate on the other. I understand I'm coming across as a crazy person. (I need to go and listen to what jeff thinks).
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Oct 24, 2014 20:38
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Captain Novolin posted:I enjoyed borderlands 2 a lot more than 1,bur I also stopped playing 1 after the first or second dlc hit, so I could see someone burning out on it and not wanting to play a sequel that, while good, is still more of the same in a lot of ways. In Gerstmann's case he says he loves the first game (I don't know if he still plays it) but hates the plot direction they went with the second game. He hates Tiny Tina and Handsome Jack and the rest of the new cast and just ends his criticism there. He says he loves the story/setup/setting of the first game which blows my mind because aside from the colorful aesthetic it's as bare bones as a dungeon crawler gets. He may be the first and only person who plays these games for the story, IDK, but despite BL2 just being a better game than the original he has nothing but hate for it.
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Oct 24, 2014 20:41
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Tons of people loved BL2's story, and I went into the game looking forward to what the story might be compared to the first. I was kind of shocked by how dark it got toward the end, which caused me to respect it a lot more because it began so slapstick and meme-riddled that I was a bit turned off initially. And I can agree that Tiny Tina is easy to hate (not interested in BL2 DLC largely for this reason), but Handsome Jack turns out to be a pretty interesting character despite his butt-pony cracks and stuff.
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Oct 24, 2014 21:03
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I loved when Nick Breckon tore into Borderlands on Thumbs. He put on his aviators and got down to business. Jeff G. went a bit crazy with Borderlands, he went down a dark dark hole even before it was released. When you get too deep into a game but come out the other side, I can understand not getting that into any sequel no matter how "good" it is. Brad goes down holes and then digs another hole to go down. WOFF fans if you, like me, wanted to try Deadly Premonition when it was covered... well it's $2.49 on steam this weekend! I'm gonna dive in.
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Oct 24, 2014 21:27
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SoulChicken posted:I loved when Nick Breckon tore into Borderlands on Thumbs. He put on his aviators and got down to business. Yeah, when I listened to the Bombcast back in '09, I remember Jeff saying he spent 24 hours with the first Borderlands over one weekend. I've had to review two of those games, and I personally don't get the hype: The randomization never pays off (and eventually gets pretty tedious), and the games are overwritten as hell. Do you have an episode/timecode for that Breckon Borderlands takedown? I haven't kept up with the podcast, but would love to hear that. Oh, and does the fan mod for DP on the PC fix everything? bobservo fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Oct 24, 2014 22:37
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I will find out soon about the mod. I'll poke around for the Breckon on Borderlands. Here: http://youtu.be/T-s8j6SjCn0?t=37m25s The episode riled up the Gearbox fan thread up, given it was before the game came out. Spawned a 17 page thread about the "review" http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=75556 "I don't even really care how good or bad they said the game was. It hurt my brain to listen to it. I couldn't even make it to the AI part." Back in Episode 47, little did we know the Beckon betrayal that awaited us. edit 2: Jake posted an awesome picture of Nick with his aviators on recording the podcast but I can't find it now. SoulChicken fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Oct 24, 2014 23:13
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I've put up with some pretty bad writing in video games, but Borderlands 2 pushed me over a threshold. I have never been so angry at a game's idea of comedy. It's completely juvenile with almost no real wit. Seriously, I pushed through BL2 for awhile until I got to Tiny Tina and couldn't take it anymore. Switched off the console and walked away. Like Claptrap isn't the greatest character ever but the game treats him like a loser when he's actually one of the few likeable characters. It's ludicrous. Woffle posted:I like BoI _significantly_ more than I like Spelunky. For me, it's about more variety in just about everything but specifically moveset. I think that Edmund knew that and said, "gently caress it, let's just have every single item synergize with every single other item," thus making a game where it seems like no two runs will actually be the same. Which is super appealing to me. I've been looking for a good game that you can pick-up and just play for about an hour and I've been giving Binding Of Isaac a good shot after kind of trying it on and off over the last couple years. The visual style and grossness isn't my thing, but I can look past it for the sake of what sounds like interesting gameplay that I can't get from anywhere. Honestly, I'm a little hyped for BoI: Rebirth.
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Oct 24, 2014 23:28
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I love the Borderlands series, its one of my favorites because of the style, writing and energy it has. There are so few games that even try to do humor which makes it even more special. Its style of humor is like a Leslie Nielsen movie or Stephen Colbert on Strangers with Candy. Just deadpan with crazy antics and little nods that you can miss but if you don't find a particular thing funny it just keeps rolling on. Its also a huge plus that the series is so progressive when it comes to social issues which is pretty funny right now because GG and MRA`s are pissed off as all hell about it in the presequel.
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Oct 24, 2014 23:39
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Eggie posted:Like Claptrap isn't the greatest character ever but the game treats him like a loser when he's actually one of the few likeable characters. It's ludicrous. I'd have more of an affinity for Claptrap if I didn't think "Wow, someone must have REALLY liked GIR from Invader Zim" every time he talks.
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Oct 24, 2014 23:57
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The latest Quarter to Three podcast has some of the borderlands devs on it, and I was pretty impressed when they talked about how a lot of the secret stuff they put into the game is only known about by a handful of people within the studio - mainly the legal team to CYA.Eggie posted:Like Claptrap isn't the greatest character ever but the game treats him like a loser when he's actually one of the few likeable characters. It's ludicrous. coyo7e fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 01:27
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Oh, sorry to bring up gamergate again however, NPR seems to be having a go of bringing it to attention. Diane Rehm show: http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2014-10-22/women-and-online-harassment The stuff about how cops just don't care was something interesting I'd not heard before "Contacted the local police' cybercrime unit - the officer responded that he was too busy tracking down child porn'". (The host has a weird quavery voice because she had some kind of weird Parkinsons-esque laryngial syndrome sort of like how Scott Adams suddenly lost the ability to talk for a couple years, and she had to re-train herself to speak. Also her husband starved himself to death a few weeks ago as a form of self-elected suicide as he was a late-stage Parkinsons sufferer, so try and give her a break for her weird voice instead of gettin' all  .)
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Oct 25, 2014 01:48
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Just listened to the WOFF Extrasode and the last 15 minutes were so on point. I was really lukewarm on you guys in the last thread, but I've definitely warmed up to your guys' style and MO. It might just be me getting older and mellowing out, but I've really started to appreciate people doing high quality stuff, saying cogent things, and allowing themselves to sensitive to their surroundings. I mean this to both the Thing That Shouldn't Be Named Because "It's Annoying" and being receptive to crazy games like God Hand. I forget which one of you is Kole, but do you mind linking the light that you picked up?
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Oct 25, 2014 02:08
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Phone posted:Just listened to the WOFF Extrasode and the last 15 minutes were so on point. I was really lukewarm on you guys in the last thread, but I've definitely warmed up to your guys' style and MO. It might just be me getting older and mellowing out, but I've really started to appreciate people doing high quality stuff, saying cogent things, and allowing themselves to sensitive to their surroundings. I mean this to both the Thing That Shouldn't Be Named Because "It's Annoying" and being receptive to crazy games like God Hand. Thank you very much for the kind words. That's a high compliment, and it finds me on a day that has been (otherwise) very lovely for me professionally. This is the light I bought. It frequently goes on sale for cheaper than the $100 it's at right now, so maybe watch it for a couple of days. My skeptic's mind makes me feel a little embarrassed about recommending a magic light that will cure winter-induced sadbrains, but it's made a noticeable difference for me so far. Even if it's a placebo, I won't turn my nose up at results.
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Oct 25, 2014 02:30
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coyo7e posted:Oh, sorry to bring up gamergate again however, NPR seems to be having a go of bringing it to attention. Diane Rehm show: http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2014-10-22/women-and-online-harassment The stuff about how cops just don't care was something interesting I'd not heard before "Contacted the local police' cybercrime unit - the officer responded that he was too busy tracking down child porn'". Diane Rehm is the goddamn best.
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Oct 25, 2014 02:46
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doctorfrog posted:Diane Rehm is the goddamn best. My major complaint was that they never brought up how the allegations of journalistic ethical failures re zoe quinn were clearly debunked. coyo7e fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 02:48
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Eggie posted:I've been looking for a good game that you can pick-up and just play for about an hour and I've been giving Binding Of Isaac a good shot after kind of trying it on and off over the last couple years. The visual style and grossness isn't my thing, but I can look past it for the sake of what sounds like interesting gameplay that I can't get from anywhere.
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Oct 25, 2014 02:51
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Kole the last two episodes have been the most magical two hours and half I have ever heard in my life.
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Oct 25, 2014 02:56
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coyo7e posted:Oh, sorry to bring up gamergate again however, NPR seems to be having a go of bringing it to attention. Diane Rehm show: http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2014-10-22/women-and-online-harassment The stuff about how cops just don't care was something interesting I'd not heard before "Contacted the local police' cybercrime unit - the officer responded that he was too busy tracking down child porn'". Yep, police don't take these cases very seriously. There was a good article earlier this year, Why Women Aren't Welcome on the Internet, which discusses this angle quite a bit.
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Oct 25, 2014 03:23
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thefncrow posted:Yep, police don't take these cases very seriously. There was a good article earlier this year, Why Women Aren't Welcome on the Internet, which discusses this angle quite a bit. If we're going to bust every union in the country, then cops and firefighters need to lose their special union privileges as well, because at the very least, there's the appearance of there being a double-standard.. I mean in my industry, it's often codified into law that I do not get OT for showing up in the middle of the night for a disaster and I'm still required to show up for my full shift the next day and for the rest of the week as well. coyo7e fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 04:22
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Song For The Deaf posted:sadbrains This is probably a bit oversensitive but please don't say this. I've never seen it on here in a context that wasn't "I'm a fyad superstar and I'm here to tell you depression isn't real." and it's really uncomfortable to see it coming from you. HMS Boromir fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 08:58
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HMS Boromir posted:This is probably a bit oversensitive but please don't say this. I've never seen it on here in a context that wasn't "I'm a fyad superstar and I'm here to tell you depression isn't real." and it's really uncomfortable to see it coming from you. Overly sensitive much?
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Oct 25, 2014 12:38
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I stand by what I said. The only place I've ever seen "sadbrains" is as an edgy goon slur for depressed or otherwise mentally ill people. Apparently it might have originated as a self-descriptive term rather than an insult but it's been used enough like that to make me uncomfortable. EDIT: VVV No harm done, I've heard you talk enough to know you're on the right side of this, it just sort of hit a nerve. HMS Boromir fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 12:58
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HMS Boromir posted:This is probably a bit oversensitive but please don't say this. I've never seen it on here in a context that wasn't "I'm a fyad superstar and I'm here to tell you depression isn't real." and it's really uncomfortable to see it coming from you. I wasn't aware it had any connotation or meaning beyond "short weird way to avoid writing out 'person with depression or depressive tendencies'." As a non-fyad superstar who definitely knows that depression is real, I'll avoid using that term.
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Oct 25, 2014 13:01
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I have much more sadbrain in the winter too, I was fine when I lived in LA for 2 years. Living in nyc, Boston and London causes my sadbrain time to go through the roof. Was thinking about getting one of those lights, that model costs twice as much in England though. By sadbrain I mean my sad brain. Is that actually a common slur? I could think of many more hurtful words ignorant assholes could use. SoulChicken fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Oct 25, 2014 13:54
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It's to my knowledge exclusively a fyad/gbs thing to use it that way, it's not exactly going to get you sour looks in polite company. If nobody else minds it then don't let my hangups derail the thread any further, it's not triggering my tumblr PTSD or anything.
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Oct 25, 2014 14:01
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Ugh well I see what you mean then. Screw that noise!
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