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Just marathoned through the Nightlords omnibus. Definitely one of the better reads as others in the thread have said. It's going to be hard going back to non-ADB works now though. I love the humour that the older 30k era marines have. The banter between Talos' brothers just feels right. It comes to something when you're reading about them torturing hundreds of psykers and skinning their children in front of them but somehow still hoping they'll win.
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I don't know about 'hoping they'll win' but I definitely wanted them to survive - when I got to Void Stalker and the body-count started climbing I was definitely rooting for some of the vicious bastards to make it out alive. Only one of my favorites did so. 
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I think I'm just a sucker for the whole "we're a first legion" thing. After reading so much Horus Heresy and the primarch stories I found myself feeling like Talos and his crew when some "thin-blood" offshoot chapter turned up with no idea what really went down 10,000 years ago. Their dead pan humour is a nice contrast to the "brother oath duty" routine of 40k marines, too. I put off reading the Night Lords material because they've always looked like a 12 yearold's idea of a super cool legion. But once again a decent author takes the trashiest, most cheesey aspects of 40k and somehow turns it into something that fits the world. I should have known this would be the case considering ADB made the World Eaters sympathetic and tragic when their whole schtick until now was "WE'RE BESERK RAAAAGH!"
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Dog_Meat posted:I think I'm just a sucker for the whole "we're a first legion" thing. After reading so much Horus Heresy and the primarch stories I found myself feeling like Talos and his crew when some "thin-blood" offshoot chapter turned up with no idea what really went down 10,000 years ago. Their dead pan humour is a nice contrast to the "brother oath duty" routine of 40k marines, too. I feel the same way, I love the contrast between the first legions and the later foundings. Its one of my fav things to see.
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Dog_Meat posted:I put off reading the Night Lords material because they've always looked like a 12 yearold's idea of a super cool legion. But once again a decent author takes the trashiest, most cheesey aspects of 40k and somehow turns it into something that fits the world. This is how I always felt about the Ultramarines, right down to their loving name, which is only a tiny step up from Supermarines.
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Khizan posted:This is how I always felt about the Ultramarines, right down to their loving name, which is only a tiny step up from Supermarines. Yeah, a lot of the names are seriously awful when you take a step back. I also used to confuse Iron Hands and Iron Warriors. I think one of the improvements with the newer novels is that they reference the legions by number. It's annoying that I sometimes have to do a quick Google on my phone when I read "...the XIII" but it adds a certain level of gravitas you just don't get when you read "holy poo poo, the ULTRA-MEGA-MARINES are coming". Probably the same reason why the Primarchs all have so many titles, too. "The Gorgon", "The Red Angel" and "Raven Lord" sound better than "Metal Hands", "Angry" and "Crow Dude". I think the Primarch of the XI was called Dave.
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Oct 23, 2014 19:46
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Khizan posted:This is how I always felt about the Ultramarines, right down to their loving name, which is only a tiny step up from Supermarines.  It`s actually based on the color of their armor as Ultramarine is a sort of blue
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Oct 23, 2014 20:41
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Sramaker posted:
Probably because calling them Smurfs in-setting would be even more eyeroll-worthy than the Space Wolves at present on the tabletop.
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Oct 23, 2014 20:50
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Sramaker posted:
Also based on the general level of seriousness applied to 40k when it started I imagine there was as much sniggering about that naming as Lion El'Johson and Mazgull Thrakka.
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Oct 24, 2014 06:26
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MrNemo posted:Also based on the general level of seriousness applied to 40k when it started I imagine there was as much sniggering about that naming as Lion El'Johson and Mazgull Thrakka. Mag Uruk Thraka, thank you! (Doubles as a LOTR and 80's Conservative Party reference, both at once!)
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Sramaker posted:
I actually didn't know this for many years. I always assumed the "Ultramarine Blue" citadel paint was something they made up, like "Ork Green" and "Space Wolf Gray". I found my old paints in a box recently while sifting through old junk in my childhood home. I'm talking the OLD school citadel paints. They were dryer than the Emporer's feet, but the smell suddenly transported me back 20 years and I felt my social skills erode on the spot. I still say the old paints were the best and I loved the little tray in the lid. I also saw a couple of my old miniatures and thought "how the hell did I have the time, patience and hand-eye coordination for this?!"
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Dog_Meat posted:
Dave? Oh, you mean "The Awesome McUberCoolest".
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Deptfordx posted:Dave? Oh, you mean "The Awesome McUberCoolest". Sanctioned for being too Radical McBadical for the empire
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Dog_Meat posted:Sanctioned for being too Radical McBadical for the empire "Nah Bro, that's why the Emperor can't handle me. I keep things too real for him"
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Oct 24, 2014 16:56
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Thread reinforced me staying away from Goto and Zou, thank you.
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Reading Angel Exterminatus. Just got past the bit where the Iron Warriors show off their sick wargaming club. lmao.
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Oct 26, 2014 19:10
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Mowglis Haircut posted:Reading Angel Exterminatus. Just got past the bit where the Iron Warriors show off their sick wargaming club. lmao. Warhams playing warhams. I admit I laughed heartily. I bet their rule system actually makes sense too.
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VanSandman posted:Warhams playing warhams. I admit I laughed heartily. On the plus side, nobody cheats. On the down side, you need a tech priest to referee and a transhuman brain to learn the rules.
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McNeill is actually very cleverly satirising the wargaming community's view on normal people. The wargaming lodge is awesome and sweet and pits noble warriors against one another, and the Emperor's Children lodge is full of guys getting as hosed up as possible. It all makes sense now. "Heh, I've got better things to do than get drunk, stupid jocks" McNeill, you genius.
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Oct 26, 2014 22:08
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You gotta remember, Slaanesh has been depicted as though from a sXe or moral majority soapbox for the longest time. Hey kids you know what's axiomatically associated with creepy and evil in our fictional universe? Drug use and exposed breasts!! To be fair, at least they remember to say that the drugs are made from the ground-up remains of torture victims, so they're not quite literally D.A.R.E. circa 1990 telling you that marijuana will ruin your life.
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Just finished Gods of Mars. Out of the trilogy, I'd say it's about in the middle. The second one was the weakest and the first was the strongest. Gods had a bit too much bolter porn and firefights that seemed pointless, but it was entertaining enough. It did feature my favorite few sentences that Mcneill has ever produced. quote:Sylkwood looked down at her slate. ‘So you’re the one putting those Baneblades back in the stowage rails?’
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mllaneza posted:On the plus side, nobody cheats. On the down side, you need a tech priest to referee and a transhuman brain to learn the rules. The real reason Perturabo went to chaos: His dad wouldn't play warhams with him. That and no one else took his tip seriously: THIN YOUR PAINTS!
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Kharn_The_Betrayer posted:The real reason Perturabo went to chaos: His dad wouldn't play warhams with him. That and no one else took his tip seriously: THIN YOUR PAINTS! Perturabo is known for creating beautifully crafted miniatures. 
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Oct 27, 2014 02:13
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I have been rereading Eisenhorn and i forgot how the start was kinda slow, when do it gets better?
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I wanna read Warhammer fantasy about tomb lords and stuff doing leading up to the new event that tempts me to to play this bad game. Help?
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Sramaker posted:I have been rereading Eisenhorn and i forgot how the start was kinda slow, when do it gets better? Yeah the start is pretty slow, lotta world building and junk. Once they get off the ice planet it gets better I think? Are the Atlas Infernal books any good guys? I also vaguely remember there were new ones about Ahriman floating around?
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Atlas Infernal was. . . strange. I don't know if I'd class it as good or bad so much as a crazy 40k acid trip. I finished the last page and wondered to myself what the gently caress just happened.
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The Rat posted:Atlas Infernal was. . . strange. I don't know if I'd class it as good or bad so much as a crazy 40k acid trip. I finished the last page and wondered to myself what the gently caress just happened. This is an extremely apt description- to add my own, I felt like I read it with a severe fever. I think it would fall somewhere on the "good" scale?
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VanSandman posted:Perturabo is known for creating beautifully crafted miniatures. The Iron Warriors are socially incapable goons for the most part that fell because they felt society wasn't properly valuing their best qualities but weren't capable of standing up and making anyone aware of those qualities. Also that's society's fault for not seeing how awesomesauce they actually were, if only they'd paid attention (m'lady...). Yeah...
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Part of the problem with Atlas Infernal is that it's super poorly edited. There are comma errors on every page, character names transposed, insanely inappropriate dangling participle clauses, lovely adverbs, and so on. Then there's stuff that may or may not be intentional, like POV shifts mid-paragraph. I read Legion of the Damned immediately following Atlas Infernal and the difference was like night and day.
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MrNemo posted:The Iron Warriors are socially incapable goons for the most part that fell because they felt society wasn't properly valuing their best qualities but weren't capable of standing up and making anyone aware of those qualities. Also that's society's fault for not seeing how awesomesauce they actually were, if only they'd paid attention (m'lady...). Yeah... Would you try to making anyone aware of those qualities after what the Emperor did to the Word Bearers after they did it?
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Sramaker posted:Would you try to making anyone aware of those qualities after what the Emperor did to the Word Bearers after they did it? On the other hand, this exchange: Eldar: "Careful, Perturabo. Beware She Who Thirsts." Perturabo: Hmmm... clearly irrelevant. There are no females in this fleet.
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Alright, cheers guys. I'll read it if I can get a hold of Atlas Infernal if I can find a copy. That being said the only place I know of that sells the books cheap is the gooniest shop I've ever known, but I think that's just part of the deal with 40k. Also that Angel Exterminatus book now makes so much more sense, thanks for the enlightenment thread!
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Someone threw a copy of the original Deff Skwadron TPB into a charity sale this weekend at a con I was at. At "name your price" I paid €10 for it and I consider my money well spent.
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Arquinsiel posted:Someone threw a copy of the original Deff Skwadron TPB into a charity sale this weekend at a con I was at. At "name your price" I paid €10 for it and I consider my money well spent. You lucky lucky bastard!
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bunnyofdoom posted:You lucky lucky bastard! The kind that makes stock decisions for GW it seems.
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bunnyofdoom posted:You lucky lucky bastard! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG63OtsKC7k sorry couldn't help it
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Frankly posted:Are the Atlas Infernal books any good guys? I also vaguely remember there were new ones about Ahriman floating around? Definitely read Atlas Infernal, and the new Ahriman book is good as well.
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Sramaker posted:Would you try to making anyone aware of those qualities after what the Emperor did to the Word Bearers after they did it? What? Pretty sure the Emperor censured them because he kept telling them to cut that poo poo out but they just kept doing it with bullshit like "oh his denial of his own divinity is even more proof of his manifest divinity." If Lorgar's evil other dad hadn't kept steering him wrong he might have ended up as an inspirational figure for the betterment of mankind and the moral conscience of the Crusade but instead you got weird fanatic and then evil fanatic.
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Wax Dynasty posted:Definitely read Atlas Infernal, and the new Ahriman book is good as well. Nice, thanks.
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