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Brumaldo posted:If I remember Nocturne correctly you get really good melee skills only late in the game, while magic is pretty strong early on. Stuff like ice breath is pretty boss at the beginning of the game. Yeah most of the better physical attacks are in the late game. Berserk and Heatwave are kind of okayish for the mean time, until you can get Hassohappa, Spiral Viper, Gaia Rage, Freikugel. Make sure to get Charge and never get rid of it though. Charge makes even your normal attack pretty decent for the early game. Mostly just get Tornado + Force Boost ASAP and spam that like crazy, even without a really high magic stat it's still pretty much broken. Fire/Ice breath with the correct Boost are also decent.
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Golden Goat posted:I ran the same Str build for my first run. It's fine going that route. While you wait for more crazy physical attacks get fog breath and war cry. Debuffs are crazy powerful in this game. Cool, I'll keep running with Str/Vit with a bit more focus on Magic then Brumaldo posted:If I remember Nocturne correctly you get really good melee skills only late in the game, while magic is pretty strong early on. Stuff like ice breath is pretty boss at the beginning of the game. I got Ice Breath before I left the medical center so good to know that's useful! Brumaldo posted:Please don't get a panic attack. too late
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If you run a STR build you will be rewarded with Freikugel which turns you into a damage God.
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Oct 22, 2014 19:22
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I still can't get through even one floor of Thanatos Tower. 
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Oct 24, 2014 05:25
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I love Persona 1 and even i think you're taking this too far.
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Oct 24, 2014 14:23
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http://gematsu.com/2014/10/devil-survivor-2-break-record-gameplay-videos-first-print-bonus-announced Break Record gameplay videos. Looks like they're keeping the same visual style outside of the cutscenes.
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So in Persona 3 FES, what do you have to do for Chidori to survive? GameFAQs is surprisingly non-specific on the subject, although there's a couple guides I haven't checked yet.
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It involves talking to Junpei on certain days leading up to her death, but I'll be damned if I remember anything more than that.
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Oct 24, 2014 21:12
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She can die??? I'm glad i talked to each party member obsessively.
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Oct 24, 2014 21:19
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whenever you get the chance talk to junpei in the dorm (so whenever he's there) and encourage him to visit the hospital
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Oct 24, 2014 21:19
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Freak Futanari posted:I love Persona 1 and even i think you're taking this too far. I got a bit farther this time. All I gotta do is learn all the patterns of the Contact system and hope the rng doesn't screw me over. 
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Oh god, I might actually do it this time. I'm on floor 4, and I've only got one character without her Persona (Ayase). I even managed to defeat quite a few encoutners along the way, gaining a few levels. I'm going to put my vita in sleep mode for a while, until my nerves calm down.
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Dehry posted:http://gematsu.com/2014/10/devil-survivor-2-break-record-gameplay-videos-first-print-bonus-announced I was really kinda hoping that the delay would mean they were switching to the animated sprites from SMT4, but nope.
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I did it. I defeated Thanatos Tower first. In the end, it came down to a super stressful fight against the boss, with only my MC left alive shooting at the tentacles. Somehow, none of the insta-death attacks hit, and I managed to slowly grind their HP away. The rest of the game should be a cakewalk after this.
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Oct 25, 2014 19:54
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Put the game down and see someone about these urges, it's not healthy to want to punish yourself.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I did it. I defeated Thanatos Tower first. In the end, it came down to a super stressful fight against the boss, with only my MC left alive shooting at the tentacles. Somehow, none of the insta-death attacks hit, and I managed to slowly grind their HP away. I'm impressed and horrified.
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It wasn't that hard, really. All you need is to never make a mistake while contacting demons, and be very lucky. It took me less than 10 attempts!
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Pretty sure I did that back when i played through the PSP version. I did sometimes use suspend data + USB transfer to make backup saves though  But yeah the instant death stuff is the worst otherwise it's not as bad as it sounds. Charm bullets erryday. Light Gun Man fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Lilim carried me through that entire ordeal. Grinding to level 21 before starting the quest was a chore, but it paid off.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I did it. I defeated Thanatos Tower first. In the end, it came down to a super stressful fight against the boss, with only my MC left alive shooting at the tentacles. Somehow, none of the insta-death attacks hit, and I managed to slowly grind their HP away. Can someone tell me why this is such a horrifying thing?
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RadicalR posted:Can someone tell me why this is such a horrifying thing? He's doing the Snow Queen questline. Thanatos Tower is one of the four towers you need to do in order to complete that quest. It's gimmick, as per the name, is instant death. It is very hard. It is also timed. quote:There are a few things to know about this "infiltration":
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tithin posted:He's doing the Snow Queen questline. It's also minimum lv 50, so unless you know how to use the contact system right, you are loving done.
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~More reasons I will never play Persona 1~ I'm excited for Persona Q though, I love the EO games so even if the story is terrible the gameplay should be enough for me. Shame about the release date being so close to so many other things, I think it even comes out the same day as the 3DS Pokemon games.
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cdyoung posted:It's also minimum lv 50, so unless you know how to use the contact system right, you are loving done. ALSO healing items are almost useless!
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I'm excited for Persona Q though, I love the EO games so even if the story is terrible the gameplay should be enough for me. Shame about the release date being so close to so many other things, I think it even comes out the same day as the 3DS Pokemon games. Does PQ have an automapper? Realistically, that's the decider on whether I pick it up. I don't have the time or inclination to draw maps myself anymore.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:~More reasons I will never play Persona 1~ (Missed this) Persona 1 isn't that bad! It's just that the game can be pretty hard when you don't know how it works, and the Snow Queen Quest is really hard, and doing Thanatos Tower first is even harder. Just playing through the Main Quest normally won't have any bullshit of that level. The worst you get is the Karma Palace, and it's nowhere near Thanatos Tower level of "gently caress you".
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PQ has automapping yeah. Personally I don't mind filling out features on the map, I actually find it kind of fun but I hate filling out walls. I think one of the games in the EO series is doing stuff like allowing you to turn on just certain automapping features and not others. I'm sure Persona 1 isn't THAT bad but personally I think P2 did not age very well and from all impressions P1 is even worse at that
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Gameplay-wise, Persona 1 has aged better than the Persona 2 games. The P2 duology had the best storylines of any SMT games but god drat do they have some awful loving gameplay. P1 is a bit clunky too, but nowhere near as unfun as the P2s.
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P2's gameplay just comes down to finding out which combination/order results in giving you a fusion spell and then just repeating that over and over again while contacting in between fights when you run low on SP. And as a bonus you don't have to worry about placing characters in the most asinine grid system ever devised and find a way to force every character to participate lest they lag behind in experience.
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It's not really fun to grind contacts so you can get tarots to summon Personas that you then have to grind so they'll rank up so you can grind fusions until they mutate. The grid system isn't that bad anyway, it's pretty easy to find a setup where every party member can cover most of the grid.
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Beef Waifu posted:It involves talking to Junpei on certain days leading up to her death, but I'll be damned if I remember anything more than that. That's it I think, just talk to him and encourage him constantly in the dorm. I think if you miss any or are ever negative about his chances with her you're locked out.
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You just have to do three out of four.
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Don't listen to any insanity that says P1 is even remotely good or aged any better. That game is complete garbage and there is very little reason to play it. It has some of the worst gameplay design in the series and is just as, if not more grindy than p2 with just as awful an encounter rate and less intelligible of a battle/contact system. It also has a garbage story and its characters are more bland 90s anime tropes than the p3 cast. You are literally better off not playing P1. That game is cancer and it also killed my dog.
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You sound like a mentally balanced person, with reasonable opinions.
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Instead of arguing about Persona, you guys should be playing Raidou vs. King Abaddon, the best SMT game.
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Freak Futanari posted:You sound like a mentally balanced person, with reasonable opinions. Jokes aside you can make lots of arguments w/ evidence as to why P1 is a terrible game. Mainly that it wants you to use the grid system which can be so easily worked around that it has no reason for existing other than to make certain characters inconvenient, there are party members who don't actually matter or have any strategic value in either quest, and there are objectively optimal routes to take in each quest that really invalidate a lot of player choice. These are problems that crop up in other Persona games but they are exacerbated by the fact that the balance in P1 is so stupidly off kilter that you can go through an entire level steamrolling enemies (and not leveling up at all because the game just wants you to grind for hours) and then get murdered in the next area because SURPRISE THE ENEMIES ARE 20 LEVELS HIGHER THAN YOU! The mall is seriously one of the worst areas in any RPG I've ever played. Also the equipment/persona management system is a mangled mess that makes very little sense and the ridiculous amount of failstate RNG in persona fusing is obnoxious 90's design that is only in to make the game more inconvenient and thus take more time to play. That is essentially all the game is. As neat as the snow queen questline was in a like, 'wow an alternate route in a 90s RPG how novel and quaint' way, the entirety of its design is just "here's a bunch of hard stuff you can savescum and RNG your way out of! Alternatively grind on the low-exp drop enemies until you get a broken persona before the quest even starts!". This has been demonstrated in-thread by pretty much everyone who has played the game and posted about it, which pretty concretely demonstrates it as a problem. The game is just 80 hours of nothing with some bullshit arbitrary thrown in for... fun? Like it all you want but it's hard to make the argument that it is in any way a decent game that is worth anyone's time at all.
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Hmmmmm. Sounds like what you're saying, is that you are not good at video games. Maybe Shin Megami Tensei isn't the series for you.
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Freak Futanari posted:Hmmmmm. Sounds like what you're saying, is that you are not good at video games. Maybe Shin Megami Tensei isn't the series for you. What I'm saying is it doesn't matter if you're good at games in P1 because player input doesn't actually matter at all whatsoever in that game. I'm fine at games, P1 barely qualifies as a game. Comparing the difficulty of P1 to the other games is a really dumb comparison because P1's difficulty almost all comes from arbitrarium whereas other SMT games, for the most part, have difficulty related to skill and planning. laplace fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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alcharagia posted:Instead of arguing about Persona, you guys should be playing Shin Megami Tensei 4, the best SMT game.
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