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Why do so many Japanese fantasy stories always need to be some macro-scale, saving the world type of poo poo?
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 07:15 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 12:31 |
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Thoren posted:Why do so many Japanese fantasy stories always need to be some macro-scale, saving the world type of poo poo? Why are pretty much all major event comic book stories about saving the world/galaxy/universe/multiverse? Generally speaking it is just a constant upping of the scales, from small scale individual, to regional, national, international, etc. Allows the author to expand on the setting and especially in shonen, explains why the gently caress there are progressively stronger and stronger villains. Saving the world stories can be done well. Look at the end of Fullmetal Alchemist compared to this. Both are about saving everyone from a massive ritual spell, its just one of them sucks total rear end.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 07:34 |
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There wasn't really a lot of fall out from the whole "Konoha was turned into a crater" thing was there? He just beat Pain and then they just started rebuilding and nothing else really came of it. You'd think it would be a bigger deal, but what do I know?
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 08:27 |
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Aurain posted:There wasn't really a lot of fall out from the whole "Konoha was turned into a crater" thing was there? Yamato got tired from making all that wood.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 08:41 |
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I expected Sasuke to have a "wait, what" moment and become very confused about what he was going to do next, but nothing ever came of it. "What now Sasuke, leaf village is a giant crater" "It is now my ambition to salt that crater"
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 11:24 |
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Triple Elation posted:I expected Sasuke to have a "wait, what" moment and become very confused about what he was going to do next, but nothing ever came of it. And then he cries for 700 days and 700 nights into that crater.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 13:08 |
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Yeah lol the fact that they could almost instantaneously rebuild from anything resembling actual destruction kind of removes a lot of the weight of the destruction itself and makes you wonder why these god like beings bother fighting one another
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 14:18 |
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Caros posted:Why are pretty much all major event comic book stories about saving the world/galaxy/universe/multiverse? It's just boring the vast majority of the time.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 14:43 |
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tbp posted:Yeah lol the fact that they could almost instantaneously rebuild from anything resembling actual destruction kind of removes a lot of the weight of the destruction itself and makes you wonder why these god like beings bother fighting one another Just in-case Nagato saying "Actually, I take it back, I'm going to revive the fan favourite character who just had a poignant scene with his dead dad and all the other mooks and revive absolutely everyone I killed" didn't fully get across the point that this series is sort of bad.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 14:58 |
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By now, Sasuke should just kill Naruto, rule everyone for a few hundred years, realize the error of his ways and realize he needs help, and use rinnegan with the last of his chakra to revive Naruto to come save the day. And BAM! A new manga is born without Sasuke.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 15:42 |
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|Ziggy| posted:By now, Sasuke should just kill Naruto, rule everyone for a few hundred years, realize the error of his ways and realize he needs help, and use rinnegan with the last of his chakra to revive Naruto to come save the day. This is the best possible setup for Naruto GX I think
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 15:55 |
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Death Bot posted:This is the best possible setup for Naruto GX I think Get your game on, Gaara.
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# ? Oct 28, 2014 21:09 |
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Naruto last movie getting novelization. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-28/the-last-naruto-the-movie-to-get-novelization/.80421
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 02:08 |
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Hoping that ninja Batman, Shikamaru has had this whole fight planned out for years and Sasuke ends up dismembered and buried alive in an old well.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 04:17 |
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I kinda have a question. Is there anybody left in this series who hasn't died at least once other than Sasuke? I mean Naruto didn't technically die but without a convenient replacement fox he would have so that one goes either way, but otherwise?
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 04:29 |
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Shugojin posted:I kinda have a question. Is there anybody left in this series who hasn't died at least once other than Sasuke? Sasuke died, he was killed and reborn in that barrel that the sound 4 were carrying.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 04:49 |
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Dexo posted:Sasuke died, he was killed and reborn in that barrel that the sound 4 were carrying. When I recall that Sasuke spent a considerable number of hours sealed into a pot while he popped some of Orochimaru's special drugs, his behavior in the series at this point makes a lot more sense.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 05:06 |
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Beef Waifu posted:Naruto last movie getting novelization. The Last Naruto The Movie: The Novel is a pretty neat title.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 05:14 |
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Shugojin posted:I kinda have a question. Is there anybody left in this series who hasn't died at least once other than Sasuke? Sasuke died at that time too. Madara impaled his bitch rear end.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 05:31 |
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Does anyone else see that image and think the armpit face is the one with the last disapproving quip? Also I just realized why shirtless Madara wrecked the character so much for me. Dude looks like he'd struggle to bench fifty pounds. I mean, also disapproving face nipple, but seriously. Did Sakura die at any point? I forget.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 05:37 |
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The entire manga has been Sakura's slow, slow death.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 05:47 |
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I officially consider the Naruto: Altered History fan-fiction to be the proper canon now. And that has Anko as Naruto's sensei.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 07:07 |
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Grouchio posted:I officially consider the Naruto: Altered History fan-fiction to be the proper canon now. Altered History is terrible, actually. Among other things, it had Shino falling in love with one of his bugs. (I know, trap sprung. I was younger when I read it. Even then I realized it was terrible and dropped it.) Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Oct 29, 2014 |
# ? Oct 29, 2014 08:00 |
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loving Naruto fanfiction. Did any of you try to read the super-uber-popular one with 5 million chapters where a race of reality-bending super beings from another dimension with cooler-than-thou names like "Scabbard", "Ghost" and "Crypt", who are unimaginably more powerful than anyone in the main cast, invade the plot and reset time except Naruto retains all his memories, and then the rest of the story revolves around their ridiculously overpowered abilities, plot-moving speeches, invariably successful manipulation of events to their exact whims, and HI-LARIOUS antics? Did you fawn over it like the rest of its 50,000 fawning reviews on fanfiction.net? Then congratulations, you have horrible taste.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 09:09 |
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Triple Elation posted:loving Naruto fanfiction. The best fanfic is the one where Gai kills everyone.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 09:20 |
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Poor Anko. A woman afore she could ever be relevant.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 09:21 |
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Silver2195 posted:Altered History is terrible, actually. Among other things, it had Shino falling in love with one of his bugs. And it's still infinitely better than the actual canon.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 09:51 |
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This is now the Japanese Dominic Deegan. It's difficult to imagine things worse than it. Madara's 'defeat' and literally everything involving Kaguya were so loving utterly and amazingly atrocious that outside of Dominic Deegan I really can't think of any comparable poo poo in fiction. Naruto always had its highs and its lows, and those lows could be pretty loving low, but the last year turned Naruto from 'something maybe salvagable, but with lots of bad poo poo' to 'one of the nadirs of fiction' Like the final boss was the platonic ideal of Kishi's misogyny.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 10:19 |
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quote:Like the final boss was the platonic ideal of Kishi's misogyny Now I'm sad they didn't work that angle in-universe. I can just hear the crazy vocals from the anime that played when Juubi was unleashing its natural disaster combo pak attack, and Naruto expositing about how Kishi's misogyny is so completely out of control that it has taken corporeal form, and it is capable of opening dimensional portals to those dark little places where Kishi has put his repressed female-directed anger.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 10:32 |
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Spiderdrake posted:Did Sakura die at any point? I forget. I'm sure she's dead inside from every time one of her teammates has to save her from her own stupidity. Also, the new chapter is out. Sasuke posted:Why do you keep trying to get in my way? Naruto posted:Because you're my friend. Sasuke posted:You already said that once. Once?! Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Oct 29, 2014 |
# ? Oct 29, 2014 12:17 |
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This managed to get even more gay
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 12:31 |
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This might be super touching if I gave a poo poo about either of these characters. So how do you think they're arms are going to get replaced?
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 12:35 |
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The flashback was boring, but at least it was a nice fight.Flytrap posted:This might be super touching if I gave a poo poo about either of these characters.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 12:41 |
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Here, have a bad translation. http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/698 Yay! Flashbacks! Conversations! Lying around bleeding! Is that loving it? Fighting done? Near 700 chapters to finish on a wet fart of an ending?
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 12:45 |
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slev posted:This managed to get even more gay Between the arm blood heart, Sasuke literally saying "I might come for your rear end again", and the revelation that Sasuke became evil because he loves Naruto too much (are you loving serious), I'd be a bit surprised if this chapter didn't end up in Shojo Beat.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 12:48 |
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I'm pretty sure the correct way to read Naruto is to read Part 1 up until the original VotE fight is about to end, then this chapter.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 13:00 |
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"I might come after your rear end again, you know" - Sasuke. Naruto in a nutshell. Aside from the whole "there's a movie set after this coming", we know that Naruto has two arms. So yeah, cool?
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 13:07 |
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Uuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 13:12 |
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This really is the only part of this chapter you need to see. It just needs a b-baka in there.
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 13:12 |
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Between the arm blood heart, Sasuke literally saying "I might come for your rear end again", and the revelation that Sasuke became evil because he loves Naruto too much (are you loving serious), I'd be a bit surprised if this chapter didn't end up in Shojo Beat. Didn't we already know that the Sharingan makes you love so goddamn much that you spontaneously turn evil for no loving reason. Also, man wouldn't it have been nice if we could have organically understood the Sasuke/Naruto rivalry throughout the manga rather than it being explained to us for like 10 loving pages in the climax!
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# ? Oct 29, 2014 13:26 |