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bloodychill posted:I'm asking out of genuine curiosity - which previous FF's reused assets? The only things I can think of are the tile sets from the early games. FF2 used a modded FF1 engine with a few reused sprites here and there, FF4 and 5 both heavily crib sprites from FF3, and as you mentioned, some tile sets are used for FF5 from 4. I think FF6 is like the first fully original FF game in terms of assets of the SNES era and from there on out every mainline game is original. Maybe it's because I played a shitload of fighting games which reuse assets like they're going out of style, but reused assets never really bother me. Especially not for something like FFX-2 which is a sequel set in the same places so I feel it's more justified there than some others.
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Oct 28, 2014 20:01
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the only game that ever really bothered me with its reused assets was tales of xillia 2, mainly because of how the game worked it would heavily reuse assets that were already being reused which got a little much
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Oct 28, 2014 20:03
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Firstborn posted:Is the difficulty mod you mentioned there? I'm using Q- something. It hasn't been made to work with 7H yet, no. That's supposed to be happening whenever the next version of 7H comes out. For right now, you might want to just stick with the mods that come with Bootleg.
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Thanks for the help. 7H looks pretty cool, too.
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Don Gato posted:She can already light people on fire by waving her arms around, attacks with possibly possessed dolls and wears a dress made out of belts and fur in a tropical climate. Nothing about her actually makes sense so conversely her keeping the same model despite being pregnant actually makes sense Or, all those things, so if you could get over all that only to be upset that she doesn't have a baby bump, well...
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Oct 28, 2014 20:34
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If anyone was ever curious about how Square-Enix/Visual Works makes its CGI trailers, Naoki Yoshida and Hiroshi Takai talked about making the Realm Reborn trailer at Final Fantasy Fan Festival : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18G40KJpnCA
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Oct 28, 2014 21:05
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In FFX-2 I just filled in the last missing oversoul creature for Shinra's bestiary and received the garment grid The End... but the Monster Master trophy didn't unlock. So, that can only mean they actually expect you to fill in the whole Fiend Tale bestiary from Creature Creator as well. Jesus.  Between collecting oversouls and fiend tales, grinding for bestiary completion has probably taken up 75%-80% of the time I've spent playing FFX-2. That's pretty crazy for a trophy requirement. At least I'm already 92% finished with the fiend tales, and all but one of what's left are New Game Plus-only humanoids.
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Oct 28, 2014 21:42
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maou shoujo posted:In FFX-2 I just filled in the last missing oversoul creature for Shinra's bestiary and received the garment grid The End... but the Monster Master trophy didn't unlock. So, that can only mean they actually expect you to fill in the whole Fiend Tale bestiary from Creature Creator as well. Jesus. It's been a while since I played it but I got the platinum and only did like one fiend tale ever. If you actually got the garment grid I think you might be experiencing a glitch or something
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Oct 28, 2014 21:51
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NikkolasKing posted:I never bothered with Gun Mage in X-2 because, gently caress, it's just random luck and chance. I'm going to stand around alll day and let this boss hit me so he can MAYBE use the one technique I want on the one character I want. Bullshit. Blue Mage is just my "give everyone protect and shell in one turn" class*. That one skill alone was enough to give it enough utility to make it worth using. It also had decent damage against fiends that fit into one of the classes that you could do 4x damage against. Psychic is a pretty cool class. Isn't it only for the international/HD version? Festivalist is also pretty neat. They both have really high general stats. *After writing this out I realized that white mage could probably cast them in the same amount of time if you take into account the time to transition from a gun mage to another dress sphere, but whatever!
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Help Im Alive posted:It's been a while since I played it but I got the platinum and only did like one fiend tale ever. If you actually got the garment grid I think you might be experiencing a glitch or something Maybe it's because I haven't been to the last story boss yet. There aren't any gaps in the bestiary list though. I haven't defeated Major Numerus yet either, but that boss requires a lot of specific fiend tales to unlock anyways.
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Oct 28, 2014 22:07
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Is there like an FF7 translation that actually tries to be a decent translation instead of sperging out over stupid poo poo or being borderline incomprehensible like the original?
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Oct 28, 2014 22:22
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Sakurazuka posted:Is there like an FF7 translation that actually tries to be a decent translation instead of sperging out over stupid poo poo or being borderline incomprehensible like the original? The fact that it's already in English doesnt' help either. There's no motivation. FF7's translation is bad, but you can still figure out what's going on for the most part, it isn't Wild Arms 2 or anything.
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Oct 28, 2014 22:39
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Sakurazuka posted:Is there like an FF7 translation that actually tries to be a decent translation instead of sperging out over stupid poo poo or being borderline incomprehensible like the original? It's cool we got a new well done translation by someone who is even bringing to our attention the one character that was left out of the original translation, Iscar Matthias.
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I really don't understand why this forum has such a problem with FFVII's original translation. If it was half as incomprehensible as people say, I probably wouldn't have perfectly understood the plot and characters, but I kinda do. Cloud was a dork growing up who wanted to impress Tifa so he tried to become a super-badass but his mind wasn't up to the task so he got as a mook. Then he got expeimented on for five years, his brain got destroyed, and the magic alien cells in him glued the shattered fragments of his psyche together and made him think he was a badass. And Sephiroth is the son of a couple crazy scientists who was exposed to magic alien cells while in the womb and later he lost his mind because he found out about some of this. And Barret used to be a coal miner who put all his faith in Shinra only to have their stupid reactors destroy his town, drive his best friend insane, and then he swore revenge on them under the guise of protecting the Planet. And I could go on. These are all perfectly spelled out in the original translation.
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Oct 28, 2014 23:30
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it just aren't sick, imo
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Oct 28, 2014 23:32
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Cake Attack posted:it just aren't sick, imo
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Oct 28, 2014 23:45
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NikkolasKing posted:I really don't understand why this forum has such a problem with FFVII's original translation. If it was half as incomprehensible as people say, I probably wouldn't have perfectly understood the plot and characters, but I kinda do. Cloud was a dork growing up who wanted to impress Tifa so he tried to become a super-badass but his mind wasn't up to the task so he got as a mook. Then he got expeimented on for five years, his brain got destroyed, and the magic alien cells in him glued the shattered fragments of his psyche together and made him think he was a badass. Just because it's vaguely understandable doesn't make it good. Especially in FFVII, the worst game in the series.
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NikkolasKing posted:I really don't understand why this forum has such a problem with FFVII's original translation. If it was half as incomprehensible as people say, I probably wouldn't have perfectly understood the plot and characters, but I kinda do. Cloud was a dork growing up who wanted to impress Tifa so he tried to become a super-badass but his mind wasn't up to the task so he got as a mook. Then he got expeimented on for five years, his brain got destroyed, and the magic alien cells in him glued the shattered fragments of his psyche together and made him think he was a badass. There's a reason that 'serviceable' and 'good' do not mean the same thing.
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Oct 28, 2014 23:48
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NikkolasKing posted:I really don't understand why this forum has such a problem with FFVII's original translation. If it was half as incomprehensible as people say, I probably wouldn't have perfectly understood the plot and characters, but I kinda do. Cloud was a dork growing up who wanted to impress Tifa so he tried to become a super-badass but his mind wasn't up to the task so he got as a mook. Then he got expeimented on for five years, his brain got destroyed, and the magic alien cells in him glued the shattered fragments of his psyche together and made him think he was a badass. Yeah, I couldn't call FFVII's translation truly awful because of how much information it gets through. I have an easier time understanding the story of FFVII with its "bad" translation than FFX's story with its "good" translation.
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FF7's translation is bad. Stilted, awkward, a lot of the characters lack a real 'voice', grammatical errors and translation errors. You can understand it, and play the game, and there are even a few moments where it's good ("This train we're on ain't got no brakes!") but there's still tons of room for improvement. If the standards for good translations are 'well I understood what was happening' then there are only two bad translations in the history of video games.
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Endorph posted:FF7's translation is bad. Stilted, awkward, a lot of the characters lack a real 'voice', grammatical errors and translation errors. Who cares, they say poo poo and drat. when I was a kid I loved Barrett because he had such a foul mouth and growing up I was never allowed to say those things. Even if I read it aloud, I would replace it with "darn" or something. Then Cid came along and 
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Who cares, they say poo poo and drat. when I was a kid Yes children are dumb and will eat poo poo. This is known. It doesn't make a bad translation good.
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Oct 29, 2014 00:13
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yes children are dumb and will eat poo poo. This is known. It doesn't make a bad translation good. I seriously doubt a different translation would affect my opinion of the games story even slightly. It's like the nitpickiest of nitpicks. It implies that if the localization team added in a few more american in-jokes, the plot would seem different somehow. Like filet mignon for your eyes I guess? "Phew, they fixed the 43 grammatical errors on disc 1, finally I can play this the way it was meant to be played!!!!!" SolidSnakesBandana fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I seriously doubt a different translation would affect my opinion of the games story even slightly. It's like the nitpickiest of nitpicks. It implies that if the localization team added in a few more american in-jokes, the plot would seem different somehow. Like filet mignon for your eyes I guess? I think people were mostly just hoping for a translation that sounded like actual people talking and got rid of the grammatical errors--not dramatic shifts in plot elements. You wouldn't think fixing lines like "This guy are sick" or "OFF COURSE!" would be cause for argument, but then this is the thread that couldn't get over asset reuse in FFX-2, so 
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Endorph posted:FF7's translation is bad. Stilted, awkward, a lot of the characters lack a real 'voice', grammatical errors and translation errors. All I was responding to was the claim that the translation was incomprehensible, which is an exaggeration a lot of people on here make. It's by no means the best localization job ever or anything but I would indeed classify it as "serviceable." Also everyone loves "let's mosey!" as Cloud's battle cry.
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Oct 29, 2014 00:20
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Every time Cid was on screen it was a joy. No problems with that guy's translation at least.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I seriously doubt a different translation would affect my opinion of the games story even slightly. It's like the nitpickiest of nitpicks. It implies that if the localization team added in a few more american in-jokes, the plot would seem different somehow. Like filet mignon for your eyes I guess? "Phew, they fixed the 43 grammatical errors on disc 1, finally I can play this the way it was meant to be played!!!!!" there there its okay the
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Every time Cid was on screen it was a joy. No problems with that guy's translation at least.
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Dragonatrix posted:there there its okay the b-but... the strawmen are all i have.... 
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i yearn for bad translations, as that is the only way to get amusement from an FF story
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NikkolasKing posted:All I was responding to was the claim that the translation was incomprehensible, which is an exaggeration a lot of people on here make. It's by no means the best localization job ever or anything but I would indeed classify it as "serviceable." No, it is legitimately incomprehensible or actually legitimately erroneous. You can understand the broad plot points but that is about it and even then it gets some of them wrong. You can pick up the broad strokes of the story but you can pick up the broad strokes of the story in Wild Arms 2 and I don't think you'd defend that. (FFVII is nowhere as bad as WA2, mind.) It isn't serviceable, not by any reasonable standards that a translation would be held to. It was not even a good translation for the era it comes from. It is full of grammar errors, incorrectly translates basic phrases, reverses word order, can't keep consistent names for various important plot points, is loose in places that distort the meaning of words, and tons of other things. On top of that, it isn't even a good localization or writing for the mistakes it makes. It's just an overall poor translation. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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ImpAtom posted:No, it is legitimately incomprehensible or actually legitimately erroneous. You can understand the broad plot points but that is about it and even then it gets some of them wrong. You can pick up the broad strokes of the story but you can pick up the broad strokes of the story in Wild Arms 2 and I don't think you'd defend that. (FFVII is nowhere as bad as WA2, mind.) It probably didn't help that you were an idiot child trying to understand the plot twists. With a new translation mod you can give them a shot as an idiot adult! The result will be the same though.
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Ragequit posted:It probably didn't help that you were an idiot child trying to understand the plot twists. With a new translation mod you can give them a shot as an idiot adult! The result will be the same though. Please keep on being defensive about the translation of a game that misspelled the name of one of its main characters. 
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ImpAtom posted:No, it is legitimately incomprehensible or actually legitimately erroneous. You can understand the broad plot points but that is about it and even then it gets some of them wrong. You can pick up the broad strokes of the story but you can pick up the broad strokes of the story in Wild Arms 2 and I don't think you'd defend that. (FFVII is nowhere as bad as WA2, mind.) Could you give me some examples of "can't keep consistent names for various important plot points." Pretty sure it was always balled Black Materia, White Materia, Huge Materia, Cetra, Ancients, Calamity from the Skies... I could give you the entire history of FFVII's plot and world from just the game itself. How is that "the broad strokes?" How is that incomprehensible? I could just copy/paste Ifalna's stuff from Icicle and that right there perfectly details Jenova, Jenova's abilities, Jenova's arrival, the Cetra, the history of the Planet... NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Man, I remember being like 13 and playing FF7 and when Barrett and Cid were like "D***" & "S***" I was like "Efff yeah." Then I got older and I was like "You know that's pretty funny, but someone should really have payed more attention to what they were writing." Welp, that's my FF7 translation story.
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morallyobjected posted:Please keep on being defensive about the translation of a game that misspelled the name of one of its main characters. I said the result would be the same, as in still terrible. I can see now why you had problems with it.
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Beef Waifu posted:Man, I remember being like 13 and playing FF7 and when Barrett and Cid were like "D***" & "S***" I was like "Efff yeah." Then I got older and I was like "You know that's pretty funny, but someone should really have payed more attention to what they were writing."
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I don't mean to step all over your toes, Endorph-Senpai.
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