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caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Do people think all of South East Asia is a giant World Vision video or something.

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raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Fun immodium fact, it functions exactly like an opiod and if it crossed the blood-brain barrier it would get you high like one too. Keep that in mind the next time you watch Trainspotting!

Practical immodium fact: Taking it preventatively will keep you from making GBS threads all together, not selectively prevent diarrhea.

Fun SE Asia fact: I lived there for about two years and had diarrhea less often there then I did in the US. In China I had the shits all the loving time, so I chalk it up to better food hygeine knowledge / habits (at least in Thailand). Some travelers have issues their first week in new place no matter if it's Switzerland or Swaziland. Don't take malaria pills. Don't follow a group of shitheels around the country because you feel obligated to.

caberham posted:

Do people think all of South East Asia is a giant World Vision video or something.

Yes they do, and some of them even get mad when the airport isn't a tiki hut.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Avoid the 7-11 cheese, it's awful. I mean you'd assume that, but it's worse than you think.

Big C is owned by Casino, a French company, so they'll usually have (especially at Super Cs or Big C Extras) some okay international cheese. Makro too. Foodland has a great selection often-times and Villa is a level below Foodland. In bulk, though, Makro is probably the best. On top of that, a number of importer shops and companies will sell cheese (e.g. the deli counter at the back of Pala) and then there are the no-brand international supermarkets at Paragon, Emporium and so on.

lemonadesweetheart
May 27, 2010

caberham posted:

Do people think all of South East Asia is a giant World Vision video or something.

It is though.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

I took a bit too much Imodium after getting the shits in China and I didn't poo poo for a week. That poo poo is good

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Oh and if you do have the shits, watch your diet. Yes immodium helps and bloats your belly like an air bag full of poop but do remember that your stomach digestive system is already weakened. So don't strain your stomach.

1. Avoid heavy oils, fibres, spices, or what not that helps you poop or make your poop more slippery. Your stomach is already on overtime so all those things won't even be digested and will flow straight out.

2. Ok this might sound hocus pocus Chinese medicine but watch your liquid intake. Again, since your stomach can't digest much you want to avoid sudden bursts of cold/hot/water intake. So just because you pooped a water bottle full of brown doesn't mean you should immediately rehydrate the amount of liquid lost. Take small sips every hour. Actually you want to be slightly dehydrated to avoid pooping as your immune system is adapting to the local fauna/flora

3. If you have a stomach bug, water absorption will probably be weak. The only way to rehydrate is either an IV drip or have your body absorb the water content from salts. Someone Pakistani doctor actually got the Nobel Medical prize during the 70's for using oral rehydration salts to treat Cholera.

Also known as gatorade or you can add 1:1:5 ratio of sugar:salt:water.

4. Don't eat much, it will just make you poo poo everything all out and strain your digestive system. Each time you poop is the same as your rear end in a top hat puking, except you don't taste vomit, just weak legs.

Sheep-Goats posted:

Yes they do, and some of them even get mad when the airport isn't a tiki hut.

That's called Nepal where sherpas will unload your luggage and you can see the sacred land of Tibet. Geeze get your countries right :colbert:

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK
ugh why did you people get so boring since I left

If you've got the shits just drink through it. Or better yet ensure your body is a quivering husk due to all the meth you've been smoking, hey presto you'll never poo poo again*



* possibly ever

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I thought meth and ketamine give you bladder problems. Or is that propaganda

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK
I was about to google "does meth give you the shits" but I'm at work and I think they monitor my internet, so let's just go with propaganda.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

From my quick Googling, meth does give you the shits.

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

Heroin's what you want to stop things up down there.

Horatius Bonar
Sep 8, 2011

Honestly I went out with the idea of getting the shits as early as possible to get it over with. Do it, you will have a great bonding story if you do, since talking about runny bowels is something that all cool travelers do, no joke.

I ate fermented pork and yeah, 1000% gaur-anteee you will get the shits from that. Also possibly parasites.

Drinking a lot of that probiotic yogurt drink from 7 eleven will help your shits be like the ones you remember from back home.

HelixFox
Dec 20, 2004

Heed the words of this ancient spirit.
I met a guy who got food poisoning from a 7-Eleven toastie.

Reforger
Apr 9, 2004

Master of Matebas
Thanks guys for the good info.

Personally I'll avoid rent-girls/traps because I'm immune to the "yellow fever" but a man gotta eat so that was my biggest issue.

I heard one should avoid ice in his drinks, does this mean no fancy cocktails with fruits and straws and small umbrellas? :confused:

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

Horatius Bonar posted:

I ate fermented pork and yeah, 1000% gaur-anteee you will get the shits from that. Also possibly parasites.
I didn't get the shits from that!

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Reforger posted:

Thanks guys for the good info.

Personally I'll avoid rent-girls/traps because I'm immune to the "yellow fever" but a man gotta eat so that was my biggest issue.

I heard one should avoid ice in his drinks, does this mean no fancy cocktails with fruits and straws and small umbrellas? :confused:

You've heard wrong, the ice is fine.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Reforger posted:

Thanks guys for the good info.

Personally I'll avoid rent-girls/traps because I'm immune to the "yellow fever" but a man gotta eat so that was my biggest issue.

I heard one should avoid ice in his drinks, does this mean no fancy cocktails with fruits and straws and small umbrellas? :confused:

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
We need like, wall of chuckle fucks in the OP.

I will start from my self

caberham - meticulously planned Asian style suicide
Sheep goats - Infinity pool is more important than significant other
duckmaster - drug smuggler through Christmas hats
Ringo R - he got married
ReindeerF - P-I-M-P
Cent0r - sex costs as much as hot lunch
Math Debater - Chris chan levels of crazy
Finch! - Koh Tao Sweeny Todd
Waltzing Along - doesn't know if mosquitoes exist in Bang Kok
Gail Wynard - Expat exploiting entrepreneur
Pixalante - Got dumped and is still drinking
evil jelly - Koh Tao Murder accomplice
lemonadesweetheart - Transgender person in Malaysia
XyrlocShammypants - internet hero
Reforger - South East Asia is world vision

Honorable mention : Senso - press ganged into a Caribbean cruise ship to avoid alimony

Senso
Nov 4, 2005

Always working

caberham posted:

Honorable mention : Senso - press ganged into a Caribbean cruise ship to avoid alimony

Slander! I do pay alimony!

VVV caberham is making poo poo up because he's jealous. I got a good job offer in the Caribbean and took it.

Senso fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Oct 28, 2014

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
If you're doing it on purpose to avoid alimony it's not really press-ganging.

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

Gail Wynand posted:

I didn't get the shits from that!

I think potentially you could though. May not be due to exotic stomach flora though...

Also is Koh TaoMurder Island on low season right now as well? I know most of Malaysia's Eastern coast is not happy times but is there somewhere reliable and good for diving in Thailand? I might get some time late Jan/Feb and would like to go diving again.

Also I'm currently engrossed in the whole thing in Malaysia with the poor guy who started the Touch a Dog campaign. As someone who hangs out on SA I was surprised to discover it was neither a horrific zoophilia thing nor a horrifically misogynistic thing about unattractive women. I was also naively surprised by the fact that someone saying Malays shouldn't be freaked out by dogs and should consider them acceptable pets justified death threats and other crazy poo poo. My newest coworker is a Texan Muslim and is slightly alarmed by all the new stories he's getting now about people being prosecuted or criticised for 'blasphemy' or 'anti-Islamism'. And the food is drat good here too :cry:

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

Nov-Dec is typically high season in Thailand, that said tourism is in the shitter right now. The junta's stats of a 10% drop are fake, real numbers are way worse. And I'm sure that goes double for Murder Island.

Hell, during our last BKK goonmeet a couple weeks back we dropped by Nana Plaza for a round and even it was a ghost town. That's how you know things are really bad.

Soy Division fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Oct 28, 2014

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

MrNemo posted:

Also I'm currently engrossed in the whole thing in Malaysia with the poor guy who started the Touch a Dog campaign. As someone who hangs out on SA I was surprised to discover it was neither a horrific zoophilia thing nor a horrifically misogynistic thing about unattractive women. I was also naively surprised by the fact that someone saying Malays shouldn't be freaked out by dogs and should consider them acceptable pets justified death threats and other crazy poo poo. My newest coworker is a Texan Muslim and is slightly alarmed by all the new stories he's getting now about people being prosecuted or criticised for 'blasphemy' or 'anti-Islamism'. And the food is drat good here too :cry:
The Sharia law zealots will find any excuse to go batshit. Before this there was the attempt to ban Oktoberfest, and then there was the nudist party in Penang where the police got all CSI and poo poo tracking the participants down.

Reforger
Apr 9, 2004

Master of Matebas
Uhm, I do know that urban Thailand is not exactly the third world and that my little stint to sex-tourist central is not comparable to wandering the Ho Chi Minh trail.

Being a little germophobe I just wanted to be sure, and the doctor that inoculated me advertised that Malarone drug that I rather not take if I can avoid it.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Gail Wynand posted:

Hell, during our last BKK goonmeet a couple weeks back we dropped by Nana Plaza for a round and even it was a ghost town. That's how you know things are really bad.

:staredog:

duckmaster
Sep 13, 2004
Mr and Mrs Duck go and stay in a nice hotel.

One night they call room service for some condoms as things are heating up.

The guy arrives and says "do you want me to put it on your bill"

Mr Duck says "what kind of pervert do you think I am?!

QUACK QUACK

HelixFox posted:

I met a guy who got food poisoning from a 7-Eleven toastie.

You meet all sorts of nutcases who got horrifically poisoned from some inoculous foodstuff, although the effects don't seem to stop them sitting at a bar drinking and recounting this story to you and anyone else who will listen.

It's similar with dengue. I must have met dozens of people who "got the dengue"; it's quite easy to tell the self-diagnosed ones as they pronounce it any way other than deng-ay (like deng-uh; the backpacker logic is that if most people pronounce it one way then the other way must be the real way :smug: ) and again are usually telling you this in a bar whilst proudly telling you it's not actually that bad. Even the ones who have had a diagnosis have basically gone to a local doctor and said "I have dengue" and obviously the doctor has immediately agreed with them and sold them some hilariously overpriced antibiotics that they don't need. I was diagnosed with MRSA for a heat rash and let's not even go into the testicle story again.

The symptoms of dengue are sore throat, tiredness, headache, aching muscles and fatigue. The fact that these symptoms are very similar to a combination of "hangover", "dehydration" and "jetlag" is a conincidence generally missed by these first class maniacs. They've generally had all their shots and will proudly remind you there is no vaccination for dengue, or a cure (they are especially proud of this one), again usually in a bar.

These people can also be identified by their tattoos: anything written in Thai, Khmer or Sanskrit is a giveaway. They'll also be carrying their passports so they can play and win the "I've been to more countries than you" game. Look for their Schengen stamp and ask where they went in Europe and hear them rattle out about twenty countries, all done in six days with a £5000 train ticket.

I mean some people do get dengue but if you can literally afford to take a few days off work and buy some water and vitamins you're going to be just fine. Most locals can't and that's why it becomes a killer.


Personally of course I had it eighty six times :c00l:

lemonadesweetheart
May 27, 2010

I'm not transgendered??

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

lemonadesweetheart posted:

I'm not transgendered??

You're a dude but your avatar is not a dude :downsrim:

I was just typing a few memorable names and just going off. If people can make dumb claims or ask dumb questions about SEA, why can't I make poo poo up about gooons :downsrim:

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

lemonadesweetheart posted:

I'm not transgendered??

Well looks like all those carefully drafted PMs are for nothing

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

Gail Wynand posted:

The Sharia law zealots will find any excuse to go batshit. Before this there was the attempt to ban Oktoberfest, and then there was the nudist party in Penang where the police got all CSI and poo poo tracking the participants down.

My personal favourite aspect to the Oktoberfest thing was the moderate politician who suggested just banning Muslims from taking part in Oktoberfest celebrations rather than banning them outright. Because Oktoberfest celebrations involve beer, which Muslims are banned from drinking so we should ban them going near it and being tempted to drink alcohol (which they are banned from anyway) rather than banning parties where non-muslims drink alcohol (and muslims might be near).

Considering the current legal position is that Muslims aren't allowed to drink alcohol but non-Muslims are perfectly free to, it seems kind of odd to me that the 'moderate' solution (as opposed to default one) is that we should just continue to enforce the status quo rather than ban non-muslims from any behaviour that permits Muslims to break the law for them.

eviljelly
Aug 29, 2004

MrNemo posted:

Also is Koh TaoMurder Island on low season right now as well? I know most of Malaysia's Eastern coast is not happy times but is there somewhere reliable and good for diving in Thailand? I might get some time late Jan/Feb and would like to go diving again.

Gulf coast is probably not where you want to be for diving right now, but Jan/Feb should be fine. November is the typical monsoon season, where it can get a bit choppy, which is not a big deal except that vis can go to poo poo. Some years the monsoon comes very late and some years it doesn't seem to come at all. It should be all clear by Jan/Feb - if you ask again closer to your arrival date, one of us can probably let you know.

eviljelly
Aug 29, 2004

Hey I have a question actually. I love staying near Khao San Road normally but this time I've got a poo poo ton of luggage so I'm considering staying somewhere connected to some form of metro. Sukhumvit would be great except I'm also a cheapass - it pains me to spend more than like 300 baht for a room and I don't want to stay in a dorm.

So, the requirements are, 1) cheap - under 300 baht ideally, but I will go nuts and pay up to 500 if need be, 2) close to some form of metro, 3) near cheap drinks and street food (I don't expect this to be too limiting). I don't need to be close to any malls or sights - I'm strictly unwinding and figuring poo poo out before I head over to Murder Island. I'm open to suggestions, goons :)

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

We have slowly but surely shifted all goon meeting hotspots to hooker districts. This wasn't exactly intentional, but that's the result.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

eviljelly posted:

Hey I have a question actually. I love staying near Khao San Road normally but this time I've got a poo poo ton of luggage so I'm considering staying somewhere connected to some form of metro. Sukhumvit would be great except I'm also a cheapass - it pains me to spend more than like 300 baht for a room and I don't want to stay in a dorm.

So, the requirements are, 1) cheap - under 300 baht ideally, but I will go nuts and pay up to 500 if need be, 2) close to some form of metro, 3) near cheap drinks and street food (I don't expect this to be too limiting). I don't need to be close to any malls or sights - I'm strictly unwinding and figuring poo poo out before I head over to Murder Island. I'm open to suggestions, goons :)
Budget poo poo outside of the backpacker districts is tough. If you wander around you can often find something, but it requires a monthly rental or whatever. Here's an example of a guesthouse/hotel near Phayathai BTS/Airport Link:

http://www.truesiamhotel.com/bangkok-3-star%20hotel.html

Great budget place for most travelers, but over 1,000 a night. I bet if you wander down the road between there and Rangnam and walk up to condos you could get a condo for a month for 6,000 Baht or something (200 Baht/night roughly). Problem is length of stay. Short stays incur larger fees.

Samsen is my favorite backpacker area currently. I don't stay there because, you know, I live here, but I've seen some great deals advertised. Problem is, it's near KSR and therefore not near transport. There are a few places on Chareon Krung a 10 minute walk from Saphan Thaksin BTS. The Mainland Chinese and Koreans love Huai Kwang and Saphan Kwai, which means there must be some great deals there, but I don't know enough to guide you to them. Use your powers!

ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Oct 29, 2014

Soy Division
Aug 12, 2004

MrNemo posted:

Considering the current legal position is that Muslims aren't allowed to drink alcohol but non-Muslims are perfectly free to, it seems kind of odd to me that the 'moderate' solution (as opposed to default one) is that we should just continue to enforce the status quo rather than ban non-muslims from any behaviour that permits Muslims to break the law for them.
Wait, is that law actually enforced? Do they check your IC at bars and such to make sure it doesn't say "Muslim?" If so, lol Malaysia.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

eviljelly posted:

Hey I have a question actually. I love staying near Khao San Road normally but this time I've got a poo poo ton of luggage so I'm considering staying somewhere connected to some form of metro. Sukhumvit would be great except I'm also a cheapass - it pains me to spend more than like 300 baht for a room and I don't want to stay in a dorm.

So, the requirements are, 1) cheap - under 300 baht ideally, but I will go nuts and pay up to 500 if need be, 2) close to some form of metro, 3) near cheap drinks and street food (I don't expect this to be too limiting). I don't need to be close to any malls or sights - I'm strictly unwinding and figuring poo poo out before I head over to Murder Island. I'm open to suggestions, goons :)

Couch surfing. Or any goons that live near a BTS? Stash your bags at their place. Don't plant it with heroin and get other people arrested.

Seconding Huai Kwang, but the metro is still a bit iffy to carry luggage

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

eviljelly posted:

Hey I have a question actually. I love staying near Khao San Road normally but this time I've got a poo poo ton of luggage so I'm considering staying somewhere connected to some form of metro. Sukhumvit would be great except I'm also a cheapass - it pains me to spend more than like 300 baht for a room and I don't want to stay in a dorm.

So, the requirements are, 1) cheap - under 300 baht ideally, but I will go nuts and pay up to 500 if need be, 2) close to some form of metro, 3) near cheap drinks and street food (I don't expect this to be too limiting). I don't need to be close to any malls or sights - I'm strictly unwinding and figuring poo poo out before I head over to Murder Island. I'm open to suggestions, goons :)

I don't think private rooms are still a thing even near KSR for 300/night. Maybe I'm wrong / maybe without AC.

LosMein
Feb 15, 2006

Gail Wynand posted:

Wait, is that law actually enforced? Do they check your IC at bars and such to make sure it doesn't say "Muslim?" If so, lol Malaysia.

Yeah Malaysia is awesome but weird. In Langkawi, the signs at all the duty free shops said that Muslims aren't allowed to buy any alcohol there. And my friend was telling me that in Penang they were trying to pass a law that only Chinese people could cook Chinese food, Indian people Indian food, etc. (Yes, I know that's not a religion.)

Langkawi sucks and is not worth a visit, despite the appeal of an entire duty free island.

LosMein
Feb 15, 2006

Sheep-Goats posted:

I don't think private rooms are still a thing even near KSR for 300/night. Maybe I'm wrong / maybe without AC.

Yeah that sounds almost impossible to find a single room that cheap near public trasportation.

My favorite place to stay in Bangkok is Suk 11. It is located.... on Sukhumvit Soi 11. It's actually pretty popular, but it's also really nice and cheap for Bangkok. It's located in Nana (haha), but it's right next to the sky train and a short walk to the subway. There is wifi, but not in the rooms (last time I was there, like a year and a half ago). It's quiet and comfortable. A single room with AC and private bathroom is like maybe 600/night? I think you can get a room with a shared bathroom for 500 or so.

https://www.suk11.com

If anyone sees a better deal than that, let me know.

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HelixFox
Dec 20, 2004

Heed the words of this ancient spirit.

Gail Wynand posted:

Wait, is that law actually enforced? Do they check your IC at bars and such to make sure it doesn't say "Muslim?" If so, lol Malaysia.

It's not really enforced, I think. I met a Malaysian muslim in KL who had no problem taking me to her favourite bar and drinking cider with me. She also had tons of tattoos which she said she also wasn't supposed to have. It might be different outside KL, though.

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