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tooterfish posted:Wrong, he just needs to prove the chicken consented. Doesn't Peter Singer argue that talking about consent is meaningless in the context of bestiality, as chickens don't consent to being eaten and yet we see nothing wrong with that?
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Mister Adequate posted:The crisp conspiracy deepens. Question is, is it a capitalist ploy by Big Crisp, the Jews, or the Freemasons? Big Crisp is just another front organisation for the Illumi-Repto-Crucians! Oh boll...
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Oct 29, 2014 02:00
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The chicken de-facto consents to being eaten by being delicious. Please note I said delicious, not sexy. Also, Seabrooks are the best crisps and anyone who disagrees is a capitalist pig. I was going to say Hitler, but we all know what's worse in this thread.
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Oct 29, 2014 02:02
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tooterfish posted:The chicken de-facto consents to being eaten by being delicious. Bit defensive, no? tooterfish posted:Also, Seabrooks are the best crisps and anyone who disagrees is a capitalist pig. I was going to say Hitler, but we all know what's worse in this thread. Yet another shill for Big Crisp reveals themselves!
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Oct 29, 2014 02:12
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HortonNash posted:Doesn't Peter Singer argue that talking about consent is meaningless in the context of bestiality, as chickens don't consent to being eaten and yet we see nothing wrong with that?
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Oct 29, 2014 02:16
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HortonNash posted:Bit defensive, no? HortonNash posted:Yet another shill for Big Crisp reveals themselves! Monster Munch and Frazzles are owned by PepsiCo. And even if they weren't, they're not from Yorkshire. Ergo, Seabrook wins, just loving deal with it. Edit: sorry, coming over all nationalistic there.
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Oct 29, 2014 02:19
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Guavanaut posted:But if someone sends you video of a man in a realistic tiger costume penetrating a roast chicken, can you be charged under the extreme pornography act? I would imagine so as I believe the act even specifies that animals may be dead or alive. Looking at the wording, it looks like they could charge you with an offence if your chosen porn involved a lifelike rubber chicken. There seems to be a huge amount of ambiguity built in to the act, what with the "appears to" and "is likely to", it's almost as if it was a bad law written to appease a tabloid moral crusade or something. I wonder if they will run into the same problems they have started to with offences under the Obscene Publications Act, in that juries are deciding that an awful lot of what the prosecution considers "obscene" is nothing of the sort. I also wonder how many of the convictions secured are guilty pleas or cautions accepted simply to avoid full court cases.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:08
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tooterfish posted:I admit nothing! Seabrook hmm.. I wonder if... wikipedia posted:In 2011 Seabrook Crisps launched its Goodbye salt Hello flavour range under a tagline "with at least 90% less salt, but 100% great taste", in line with government objectives to lower salt intake. The salt was substituted with sugar. Big Crisp, indeed!
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Can someone quickly give a brief rundown of how certain MSPs in the Labour Party, like Kezia Dugdale, are what's been referred to as "Accidental" list MSPs? I get the basic principle that for some reason they were elected when it was not anticipated they would be, but how did that happen? Did labour forget to put its constituency candidates on the regional list at the last election, or something?
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Reveilled posted:Can someone quickly give a brief rundown of how certain MSPs in the Labour Party, like Kezia Dugdale, are what's been referred to as "Accidental" list MSPs? I get the basic principle that for some reason they were elected when it was not anticipated they would be, but how did that happen? Did labour forget to put its constituency candidates on the regional list at the last election, or something? They got more list MSPs than they thought they would get in the last election because they lost a lot of constituency MSPs. So you get people way down the list becoming MSPs.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:28
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This is the band who is featured on the t-shirt of that bloke who ran into David Cameron: They're a self-described "slam metal" band from Leeds.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:31
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marktheando posted:They got more list MSPs than they thought they would get in the last election because they lost a lot of constituency MSPs. So you get people way down the list becoming MSPs. Is there any reason why the constituency candidates weren't put on the list? I'd have thought the sensible way to make up your regional list would be to list incumbent MSPs first, then any candidate with a good shot at winning, followed by the dregs sent up to oppose other parties in their own safe seats. That way if you lose a bunch of constituency seats to the opposition, your former encumbents just get re-elected on the list instead.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:37
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TinTower posted:This is the band who is featured on the t-shirt of that bloke who ran into David Cameron: Those names sound like the sort of thing Jeremy and Super Hans would come up with in Peep Show.
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McDragon posted:Those names sound like the sort of thing Jeremy and Super Hans would come up with in Peep Show. I'm just really not happy with the name Free the Paedos. I mean, can't we call it something more normal like... The Swan and Tomato?
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Reveilled posted:Is there any reason why the constituency candidates weren't put on the list?
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Oct 29, 2014 08:31
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Meanwhile, on Autumnwatch - Michaela Strachan deep throats for Chris Packham! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXJVPCc59JA I'm not sure if Packham was oblivious to how that looked, or if he's just an incredible straight actor.
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It's a weakness of list systems. Rebecca Taylor was an accidental MEP for the Lib Dems in Yorkshire and Humber after the elected MEP Diana Wallis resigned and Wallis' husband Stewart Arnold – who was second on the list – passed the co-option up due to allegations of nepotism.
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Oct 29, 2014 08:56
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TinTower posted:This is the band who is featured on the t-shirt of that bloke who ran into David Cameron: Tintagel: their Schindler's Fist album. quote:
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Another "everybody is wrong about everything" study has been conducted, only this time it turns out to be just a part of the human condition rather than a uniquely British problem, and Brits actually come off pretty well compared to the festering hive of retarded pigshit that is human belief in general: http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/oct/29/todays-key-fact-you-are-probably-wrong-about-almost-everything The French believe that a third of their population is muslim (true figure: 8%), the Italians believe that immigrants account for 30% of their population (true figure: 7%), we believe that 24% of our working age population is unemployed (true figure: 7% when the study was conducted), and everybody overestimates teen pregnancy rates by an order of magnitude. Also, the Adam Smith institute has analyzed the country's wealth distribution and divvied us all up into 11 categories: https://smithinstitutethinktank.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/wealth-of-our-nation-rethinking-policies-for-wealth-distribution.pdf quote:The largest group, comprising around 13.5 million households or a little over half the total, are either financially secure or are on a path to being so. In their 20s they will make up some of the “renters” group but by their 30s they are in the ‘good progress’ group, moving to becoming ‘wealth accumulators’ in their 40s, then either ‘looking forward to retirement’ or ‘happily retired’ in their 50s and 60s before landing in the "Half of us are old and fairly rich, everybody else is hosed lmao. Also if you are renting and past your mid-twenties you are doomed to a life of abject penury and will never amount to anything more than a state-dependent life failure." LemonDrizzle fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Reveilled posted:Can someone quickly give a brief rundown of how certain MSPs in the Labour Party, like Kezia Dugdale, are what's been referred to as "Accidental" list MSPs? I get the basic principle that for some reason they were elected when it was not anticipated they would be, but how did that happen? Did labour forget to put its constituency candidates on the regional list at the last election, or something? For 2011 Labour decided that with a few exceptions, their constituency MSPs wouldn't be put on the list too. 1) They thought that it would prevent a false sense of security and force constituency MSPs to campaign, 2) Labour did their seat selections while polling showed them with a significant lead. The latter meant that they didn't alter their list candidates from; the normal bunch of councillors who'd "served their time", hangers-on with family connections, and "up and comings" operating in other roles in the party but 1-2 elections out from a constituency seat or export to London. Kezia was in the later category, where she was acting as campaign coordinator for the Lothian region consitiuency MSPs, but then oops'ed a seat from like 5 places down the list of no-hope when the SNP smashed all the constituency candidates she was working to promote.
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Well theres a cheerful thought to start the morning off LemonDrizzle.
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Speak for yourself, I'm still thinking about Michaela Strachan.
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twoot posted:For 2011 Labour decided that with a few exceptions, their constituency MSPs wouldn't be put on the list too. 1) They thought that it would prevent a false sense of security and force constituency MSPs to campaign, 2) Labour did their seat selections while polling showed them with a significant lead. Great explanation, thanks 
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LemonDrizzle posted:Another "everybody is wrong about everything" study has been conducted, only this time it turns out to be just a part of the human condition rather than a uniquely British problem, and Brits actually come off pretty well compared to the festering hive of retarded pigshit that is human belief in general: http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/oct/29/todays-key-fact-you-are-probably-wrong-about-almost-everything Eh, I'm not sure it is part of the human condition so much as an outcome of how News Media works. Things like violent crime get a lot of viewers so they get a lot of coverage leading to people feeling more afraid of crime when statistics show it going down. Though there is also the problem that recorded crimes statistics may be faked but that is a separate problem. All the misconceptions listed match up to common news stories, articles about too many immigrants and too few people voting are quite common. edit: I'm sad all talk of Chris Packham becoming the next David Attenborough has died down, I just hope it doesn't end up being Brian Cox.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Another "everybody is wrong about everything" study has been conducted, only this time it turns out to be just a part of the human condition rather than a uniquely British problem, and Brits actually come off pretty well compared to the festering hive of retarded pigshit that is human belief in general: http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/oct/29/todays-key-fact-you-are-probably-wrong-about-almost-everything
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I have no idea how you loving people managed to make the UKMT worse than it normally is, but congratulations. Great work.
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Zero Gravitas posted:you loving people Wow.
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much rude
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"140 new posts, I wonder if something interesting has happened... nope, just a pissflaps/other pissing contest."
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Zero Gravitas posted:"140 new posts, I wonder if something interesting has happened... nope, just a pissflaps/other pissing contest." To be fair, I'd be fairly annoyed if someone started making up stuff about me to defame me. Pissflaps has a pretty abrasive response to it but I can't really pretend I don't think hes correct in being pissed off.
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Carrier posted:To be fair, I'd be fairly annoyed if someone started making up stuff about me to defame me. Pissflaps has a pretty abrasive response to it but I can't really pretend I don't think hes correct in being pissed off. Bringing up a past accusation when it has nothing to do with the current argument is weird, obnoxious and unnecessary. EDIT: If someone is a weirdo or it's funny, by all means bring it up. But saying "Remember that time you made a personal attack against me and you couldn't bring up the evidence?" is crap. No-one cares about your slap fight. Shelf Adventure fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Shelf Adventure posted:Bringing up a past accusation when it has nothing to do with the current argument is weird, obnoxious and unnecessary. Maybe one day somebody will claim your all time high score on Super Smash Brothers is lower than it actually is and you'll know how it feels to have somebody make up lies about you. It's not nice and I will not apologies for holding somebody accountable for spreading falsehoods to score points. And, FYI, it only happened a couple of days ago and in this very thread, its not some ancient grudge being dredged up.
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Good news! It looks like "liberals are the real racists" will become a part of mainstream British political discourse thanks to UKIP. Tim Montgomerie has accused Mathew Parris of being an "illiberal liberal Lib Dem" for suggesting that playing up fears about immigration emboldens racists: http://www.theguardian.com/politics...4b0cd82a0960946 Tim Montgomerie posted:Matthew worries that some in UKIP want a country where everyone looks the same. I worry that Matthew wants a party where we all think as he does. He is that very modern phenomenon that is very powerful in the Liberal Democrats – an illiberal liberal who will tolerate anyone as long as they agree with him. Just as some in UKIP hate the diversity of modern Britain, Matthew Parris and certain modernisers are in danger of becoming haters, too. Hating the politics of places like Clacton. Accusing all people who worry about immigration of being racist. Deciding that anyone who questions David Cameron is an extremist.  Why won't you Lefties embrace the diversity of British hate speech!?
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Pissflaps posted:Maybe one day somebody will claim your all time high score on Super Smash Brothers is lower than it actually is You have really weird obsessions
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Farecoal posted:You have really weird obsessions He's just making it relateable to the person hes speaking to. Its good public speaking.
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Pissflaps posted:Maybe one day somebody will claim your all time high score on Super Smash Brothers is lower than it actually is and you'll know how it feels to have somebody make up lies about you. It's not nice and I will not apologies for holding somebody accountable for spreading falsehoods to score points. Alright, no need to get your piss in a flap
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So we're letting immigrants drown now? Makes you proud to be British, so it does.
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I might just start posting pictures of puppies and kittens in here, just to lighten up the mood. Although I'm pretty sure we'd find a way to somehow devolve that into a pedantic argument about something that no one actually cares about in that instance too.
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Gorn Myson posted:I might just start posting pictures of puppies and kittens in here, just to lighten up the mood. Although I'm pretty sure we'd find a way to somehow devolve that into a pedantic argument about something that no one actually cares about in that instance too. I'd rather people posted about politics and interesting news stories because that's what I like about this thread and it's been poo poo for it lately. Then again, the news is so depressing that I imagine we'd rather do anything but that.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Good news! It looks like "liberals are the real racists" will become a part of mainstream British political discourse thanks to UKIP. Tim Montgomerie has accused Mathew Parris of being an "illiberal liberal Lib Dem" for suggesting that playing up fears about immigration emboldens racists: Wow, I haven't seen 'Why won't you tolerate my intolerance hmm?  ' for quite a while.Also I'm too depressed to do the whole white poppy thing this year. I've got people on Facebook saying they won't let anyone politicise the red poppy this year, therefore they will shout down any discussion about the glorification of war and wear it unquestioningly 
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