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Guavanaut posted:What's for the main course? Miliband Obviously.
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I assumed he'd be the starter. Not enough meat on the guy for a proper banquet. A shame Eric Pickles can't get a guest invite. e: Then again Labour haven't been about eating the rich for quite a long time. The main course is probably a slightly lower number of poor children than the Tory banquet.
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Oct 30, 2014 18:03
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He'd be a side dish. Beans are fine and all but you can't build a banquet around one.
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Oct 30, 2014 18:09
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Guavanaut posted:I assumed he'd be the starter. Not enough meat on the guy for a proper banquet. Imagine the crackling you'd get off Suckling Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government.
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Oct 30, 2014 18:15
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Prince John posted:Any particularly good examples? I'd love to watch a bit of angry Theresa. Whatever floats your boat
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Oct 30, 2014 18:26
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Prince John posted:Any particularly good examples? I'd love to watch a bit of angry Theresa. not that I've recorded but you can have this  CoolCab posted:"Serious people" is up there. "Lesser evil", "tough choices" "middle class", "everyday people", really there's an entire lexicon. you forgot "it is right", I love that one. It's the It Is A Fact of the sort of people who'd be obnoxious wankers if they were right, but know they aren't.
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Oct 30, 2014 19:34
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baronvonsabre posted:For the record (since both you and twoot didn't include them), UKIP polled 2% (+1), Others 1%. Always nice to see the Greens polling better than UKIP. That's impressively low for UKIP, seeing how they got 10% of the vote in Scotland in the European Parliament election. Though that was on like a 33% turnout.
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Oct 30, 2014 19:35
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Spangly A posted:not that I've recorded but you can have this That's three words 
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Another reminder that in the event of nuclear war the best course of action is to die: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29804446quote:More than 300 megatons of nuclear bombs are detonated over Britain, in the space of a 16-hour exchange. Many cities are flattened - millions are dead from the blast, millions more have survived and suffer radiation sickness. In bunkers are 12 regional commissioners with their staff, ready to come out and take charge. How do they do this? How do they restore order and begin to rebuild? Highlights include: quote:Planning the war game, one civil servant tried to imagine how law and order would be maintained. Jane Hogg, a scientific officer in the Home Office, envisaged the police would be busy helping "inadequate" people in disaster-struck areas, and suggested that another group could be recruited to help keep order. quote:In May 1982 at the Easingwold training centre in Yorkshire some officials tried to play the game. It did not work well. One player said it failed to go far enough - it was supposed to model what would happen up to 18 months after nuclear attack, but too much time was spent on the pre-strike period. Don't worry though, in the aftermath of nuclear Armageddon the most important matters would be looked after: quote:Twenty five years since the Cold War ended, most of this secret planning is known now. But Lord Hennessy said: "We still don't have the detailed plans for using the Royal Yacht as the Queen's bunker." In the event of nuclear war, he said, the yacht would be "lurking" in the sea lochs in Scotland out of reach of Soviet radar, with the Queen, Prince Philip, the Home Secretary on board. ReV VAdAUL fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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Oct 30, 2014 19:44
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In the event of a nuclear war, I literally wouldn't want to survive. I at least take small comfort in knowing that those crazy survivalists who are just waiting for the
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Ddraig posted:In the event of a nuclear war, I literally wouldn't want to survive. I at least take small comfort in knowing that those crazy survivalists who are just waiting for the There's a pretty funny tv show about those clowns called Doomsday Preppers on yank Netflix. On one episode a survivalist guy shoots his own thumb off while teaching his little sons how to use guns. Then he faints and the film crew had to get him medical attention while his traumatised children looked on.
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Oct 30, 2014 19:56
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Do any of these plans account for food and sunlight ending for a few years?
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Oct 30, 2014 19:59
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Nuclear winter isn't a real possibility so no.
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Just so you guys know, I'd be dead within a week of the collapse. I know a lot of people picture themselves becoming badasses, making hard decisions and surviving by their wits, but my skull would be mounted on a bandit king's road-warrior buggy within a week. fake edit: I haven't seen Threads, but I did see that one with Mel Gibson and I assume they were roughly the same.
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Preppers do put out some decent YouTubes about storage solutions, especially food storage. My cans are now better sorted and stored in a smaller space. As an added bonus I'm ready for the Race War when it comes, win win really.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:06
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I don't know Jim Murphy. Why's he so awful?
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Oct 30, 2014 20:07
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America maybe had a basis for planning for the aftermath of a nuclear war, they have enough space that at least some significant areas are likely to not be directly affected - eg the Rockies and Great Plains would definitely have had some sizable communities not in the crosshairs and not likely to be too badly hit by fallout - and enough prep may have been enough to continue society there. Same goes for Russia. Anyone in Europe except maybe the Sami and Irish seriously planning for the day after was insane. That said, given the politics of the era, making it sound like at least something of the country would have survived was probably a political necessity. So prepping in the 80s if you live in Colorado wasn't totally stupid.
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Basically our defense plans were pretty much When the Wind Blows, except perhaps less effective.
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Darth Walrus posted:I don't know Jim Murphy. Why's he so awful? he's pretty much a generic careerist Blairite MP. He's not the person to rescue a Scottish Labour that's divided and tarnished by the referendum campaign.
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Darth Walrus posted:I don't know Jim Murphy. Why's he so awful?
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Oct 30, 2014 20:19
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At least they planned to move as much as possible from our museums into bunkers, maybe the Octopus People who succeeded us would have found something worthy among our ruins.
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namesake posted:Nuclear winter isn't a real possibility so no. Do you mean "we wouldn't have an exchange adequately large to cause nuclear winter", which is arguable (fingers crossed!), or "nuclear winter would never happen" which is not the scientific consensus. To pull some research off wikipedia... quote:In 2014, M. J. Mills (at the US National Center for Atmospheric Research, NCAR), O. B. Toon (of the original TTAPS team), J. Lee-Taylor, and A. Robock published "Multi-decadal global cooling and unprecedented ozone loss following a regional nuclear conflict" in the journal Earth's Future.[96] The authors used computational models developed by NCAR to simulate the climatic effects of a regional nuclear war in which 100 "small" (15 kt) weapons are detonated over cities. They concluded, in part, that While many argue about the scale of the effect, few (credibly) argue it does not exist. 100 small detonations is an incredibly optimistic scenario for a global nuclear exchange.
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Mister Adequate posted:At least they planned to move as much as possible from our museums into bunkers, maybe the Octopus People who succeeded us would have found something worthy among our ruins. Gotta save the loot!
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Darth Walrus posted:I don't know Jim Murphy. Why's he so awful? On an amusing level he is the embodiment of modern politics. He stayed an undergraduate at Strathclyde Uni for 9 years until he used his position as NUS president to barge through a bunch of New Labour policies, and then left without graduating to be rewarded with the seat he has held since 1997.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:23
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IceAgeComing posted:he's pretty much a generic careerist Blairite MP. He's not the person to rescue a Scottish Labour that's divided and tarnished by the referendum campaign. He also went in both barrels blazing on Unite during the Falkirk fiasco, rather than waiting for the investigation to conclude. Edit: - beaten like Scottish Labour.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:23
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marktheando posted:There's a pretty funny tv show about those clowns called Doomsday Preppers on yank Netflix. On one episode a survivalist guy shoots his own thumb off while teaching his little sons how to use guns. Then he faints and the film crew had to get him medical attention while his traumatised children looked on. It's on YouTube too. The guy shooting his thumb off whilst funny, was nothing compared to the lunatic who was practicing being a bandit so he could be the top warlord after the "event" (he also rehearsed performing a Caesarean section in a plastic tent in a barn on his pregnant wife, and built himself a suit of armour out of bathroom tiles), he turned out to be a Paedo too. Then there was the guy who put a massive watchtower on his roof and mined his front garden, and the guy who was storing his own blood both in readiness for fighting off Obama's storm troopers.
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CoolCab posted:Do you mean "we wouldn't have an exchange adequately large to cause nuclear winter", which is arguable (fingers crossed!), or "nuclear winter would never happen" which is not the scientific consensus. To pull some research off wikipedia... Hmm, fair enough looks like a significant exchange might strip off ozone and uplift enough material to cause a serious climate shift. I'd learned that the chances of enough material circulating high enough was remote but it seems there's more to it than that.
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namesake posted:Hmm, fair enough looks like a significant exchange might strip off ozone and uplift enough material to cause a serious climate shift. I'd learned that the chances of enough material circulating high enough was remote but it seems there's more to it than that. Yeah, that and the smoke from the countless firestorms. Don't think "the explosions will knock dirt into the air" (which, you're right, I was originally taught and is incorrect) as that's not the primary effect, it's more "everything that's combustible will start emitting huge quantities of smoke".
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There's also a big protest including foodbank collection outside said dinner. That's really quite something, protesting against Labour in Glasgow! Mind you, when I were but a tiny wee socialist, Labour fundraising was done at endless bake stalls on the High Street, none of this £200 a plate dinner stuff! That sort of disconnect with what the party is supposed to be about is also really quite something. What an opinion poll result though. Labour really need to get their act together and fast. EDIT: Just seen on Facebook that Murphy has apparently been endorsed for leader...by Jackson Carlaw of the Tories. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about Jim Murphy... Acaila fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Oct 30, 2014 |
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twoot posted:On an amusing level he is the embodiment of modern politics. He stayed an undergraduate at Strathclyde Uni for 9 years until he used his position as NUS president to barge through a bunch of New Labour policies, and then left without graduating to be rewarded with the seat he has held since 1997. lol loving hell
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Acaila posted:If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about Jim Murphy... George Eaton posted:Striking line from Jim Murphy to @bbclaurak: 'We all know the Labour Party has to have a credible plan for the deficit, first and foremost". a.k.a. get ready for the iron fist of austerity, fuckers 
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Oct 30, 2014 21:32
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Anas Sarwar just announced his resignation, at the Labour dinner. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/anas-sarwar-resigns-deputy-leader-4538131
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Oct 30, 2014 21:33
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serious gaylord posted:Last month the majority of the people in Scotland chose to reject independence and made this man Nice prediction, btw.
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Oct 30, 2014 21:35
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Spooky Hyena posted:Anas Sarwar just announced his resignation, at the Labour dinner. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/anas-sarwar-resigns-deputy-leader-4538131 Source? e: just saw your edit, cheers
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Oct 30, 2014 21:35
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So Anas has been promised something at Westminster to step aside to solve the problem of Murphy being in London no doubt. I notice all the coverage in the likes of the Guardian call Murphy the clear favourite. Feel that is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Oct 30, 2014 21:39
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Alertrelic posted:Nice prediction, btw. I'd have been quite surprised if the SNP had fallen apart after they managed 45% Yes. The run-in to the independence referendum has put it into people's heads that the SNP are the party that will look out for Scotland. Labour have their work cut out for them to overturn that level of engagement.
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Oct 30, 2014 21:43
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Acaila posted:So Anas has been promised something at Westminster to step aside to solve the problem of Murphy being in London no doubt. Sarwar is a Westminster MP, same as Murphy. Him stepping down as deputy leader doesn't do anything to help Murphy.
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Oct 30, 2014 21:43
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marktheando posted:Sarwar is a Westminster MP, same as Murphy. Him stepping down as deputy leader doesn't do anything to help Murphy. It means they can have a lesser MSP run for deputy and fill in for him before 2016.
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Oct 30, 2014 21:45
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twoot posted:It means they can have a lesser MSP run for deputy and fill in for him before 2016. Ah right, makes sense. Though he could have waited a bit, losing the leader and the deputy in a week makes things look pretty chaotic.
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I wonder if this will cause Sarah Boyack to drop out of the leadership contest and form a joint ticket with Jim Murphy. EDIT: Got my MSPs mixed up
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