What combo should I play next in DCSS?

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Swelter Discharge: Mar 21, 2013

got my second win

code:

1482347 pigswill the Slayer (level 27, 210/210 (219) HPs)
             Began as a Merfolk Gladiator on Oct 29, 2014.
             Was a High Priest of Okawaru.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 3 runes on Oct 30, 2014!
             
             The game lasted 07:32:14 (103797 turns).

pigswill the Slayer (Merfolk Gladiator)           Turns: 103797, Time: 07:32:15

HP 210/210 (219) AC 42     Str 23      XL: 27
MP  31/31        EV 27     Int  6      God: Okawaru [*****.]
Gold 3646        SH 18     Dex 26      Spells:  6 memorised, 18 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis +     Y - +7 demon trident (vamp)
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     l - +9 storm dragon armour of Jigsaw {rElec Dex+5}
rNeg   . . .     rCorr    .     Z - +3 shield of Heosel {Spirit, rElec rC+}
rPois  +         rRot     .     X - +2 helmet {SInv}
rElec  +         Spirit   +     O - +2 cloak {MR+}
SustAb .         Warding  .     J - +2 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     b - +1 pair of boots {run}
Gourm  .                        e - amulet "Kle Fuq" {Faith +Inv rElec rPois Slay-1}
MR     ++++.                    v - ring of Kiodehid {rF+ Str+3 Int-3}
                                H - ring "Fedofyitywn" {MR+ Stlth+}

@: very slightly contaminated, drained, quick, incredibly resistant to hostile
enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: change form in water, swift swim, frail 1, low mp 1
a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility
0: Orb of Zot
}: 3/15 runes: barnacled, silver, gossamer

# ? Oct 30, 2014 05:32

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 06:28

Thug Lessons: Dec 14, 2006; I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Swelter Discharge posted:

got my second win

code:

1482347 pigswill the Slayer (level 27, 210/210 (219) HPs)
             Began as a Merfolk Gladiator on Oct 29, 2014.
             Was a High Priest of Okawaru.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 3 runes on Oct 30, 2014!
             
             The game lasted 07:32:14 (103797 turns).

pigswill the Slayer (Merfolk Gladiator)           Turns: 103797, Time: 07:32:15

HP 210/210 (219) AC 42     Str 23      XL: 27
MP  31/31        EV 27     Int  6      God: Okawaru [*****.]
Gold 3646        SH 18     Dex 26      Spells:  6 memorised, 18 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis +     Y - +7 demon trident (vamp)
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     l - +9 storm dragon armour of Jigsaw {rElec Dex+5}
rNeg   . . .     rCorr    .     Z - +3 shield of Heosel {Spirit, rElec rC+}
rPois  +         rRot     .     X - +2 helmet {SInv}
rElec  +         Spirit   +     O - +2 cloak {MR+}
SustAb .         Warding  .     J - +2 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     b - +1 pair of boots {run}
Gourm  .                        e - amulet "Kle Fuq" {Faith +Inv rElec rPois Slay-1}
MR     ++++.                    v - ring of Kiodehid {rF+ Str+3 Int-3}
                                H - ring "Fedofyitywn" {MR+ Stlth+}

@: very slightly contaminated, drained, quick, incredibly resistant to hostile
enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: change form in water, swift swim, frail 1, low mp 1
a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility
0: Orb of Zot
}: 3/15 runes: barnacled, silver, gossamer

GOONGRATULATIONS

# ? Oct 30, 2014 05:33

El Wombato: Mar 19, 2008; Mexican Marsupial

Thug Lessons posted:

His wrath is a bit worse as of 0.15 but it was alway bad for him to drop a ton of poo poo on you when you're in the middle of getting tormented and hellfired.

Yea honestly I usually waited it out or saved like Orc/Elf or maybe Crypt to burn it off. It's kinda boring play I know.

# ? Oct 30, 2014 05:58

OkieMurse: Nov 2, 2011; I get paid to stab people with sharp objects.

How'd you like the Merman Gladiator?

# ? Oct 30, 2014 06:02

Swelter Discharge: Mar 21, 2013

OkieMurse posted:

How'd you like the Merman Gladiator?

thought it was pretty good. they have great pole-arms and dodging apts which was very nice and being able to swim in shoals made it so much easier.

# ? Oct 30, 2014 06:06

PleasingFungus: Oct 10, 2012; idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

El Wombato posted:

Yea honestly I usually waited it out or saved like Orc/Elf or maybe Crypt to burn it off. It's kinda boring play I know.

you can't wait it out now, you have to actually kill things to progress through wrath. it's a good change.

Swelter Discharge posted:

thought it was pretty good. they have great pole-arms and dodging apts which was very nice and being able to swim in shoals made it so much easier.

ya they're real good (though I'm bad with them). grats on the win!

# ? Oct 30, 2014 06:52

klapman: Aug 27, 2012; this char is good

i'm a minotaur with plate armor, molten scales, and a beak.

its been 82 turns.

:stare:

# ? Oct 30, 2014 07:39

Jen X: Sep 29, 2014; To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

klapman posted:

i'm a minotaur with plate armor, molten scales, and a beak.

its been 82 turns.

Mutations are fun.

# ? Oct 30, 2014 07:40

Zodar: May 21, 2007

Oka's wrath (and all god wraths) were easier to deal with when they expired in X turns, and you could wait them out somewhere safe. Now they expire when you've gained X experience, which makes you that much more likely to get jumped by a pack of frost giants while you're trying to fight something dangerous.

# ? Oct 30, 2014 14:55

El Wombato: Mar 19, 2008; Mexican Marsupial

Alright, that's actually a good change because waiting it out was a lil scummy. I bet you could still use Crypt to burn off most of it and get some sweet TSO piety for basically free.

# ? Oct 30, 2014 16:23

a shiny rock: Nov 13, 2009

haven't tried it in 0.15 but if oka sent any wrath poo poo after me in hells i would spin in a circle with my axe and problem solved

# ? Oct 30, 2014 19:04

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

Made it to the spider den as a melee character

took one step, and I'm suddenly webbed, surrounded by spiders, attacked, and continually webbed over and over till I die

It was just bad luck really, there were so many spiders so close to the stairs that got alerted just by me moving a single tile. RIP

# ? Oct 30, 2014 19:38

OkieMurse: Nov 2, 2011; I get paid to stab people with sharp objects.

So who runs tiles and who runs ascii and who plays offline?

I play webtiles and I was curious how many others did the same.

# ? Oct 30, 2014 21:27

Swelter Discharge: Mar 21, 2013

OkieMurse posted:

So who runs tiles and who runs ascii and who plays offline?

I play webtiles and I was curious how many others did the same.

i prefer local tiles because webtiles seems really laggy and bad

# ? Oct 30, 2014 21:32

klapman: Aug 27, 2012; this char is good

I've been playing local tiles since I doubt i'll ever really get good enough to compete in terms of high scores other than "holy poo poo I actually beat it :stare"

# ? Oct 30, 2014 21:33

PleasingFungus: Oct 10, 2012; idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

El Wombato posted:

Alright, that's actually a good change because waiting it out was a lil scummy. I bet you could still use Crypt to burn off most of it and get some sweet TSO piety for basically free.

quite a lot of people think that

sometimes it works

quote:

343 game[over]s for * (recent crypt):
52x the fury of Okawaru, 31x an ancient lich, 20x a lich, 19x a vampire knight, 17x a curse skull, 16x the rage of Trog, ...

sometimes it doesn't!

OkieMurse posted:

So who runs tiles and who runs ascii and who plays offline?

I play webtiles and I was curious how many others did the same.

I run webtiles; it's a little laggy but it's nice having an audience sometimes

also offline doesn't count, obv.

# ? Oct 30, 2014 21:47

a shiny rock: Nov 13, 2009

OkieMurse posted:

So who runs tiles and who runs ascii and who plays offline?

I play webtiles and I was curious how many others did the same.

Used to play on local tiles. Relied heavily on the mouse controls so i didn't have to bother learning all the key commands. Now I just play web tiles.

# ? Oct 30, 2014 21:59

Thug Lessons: Dec 14, 2006; I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Online ASCII.

# ? Oct 30, 2014 22:05

Ibram Gaunt: Jul 22, 2009

went to the shoals for the first time armed with a +4 antimagic executioners axe, as well as a +3 fire one, was doing pretty well until I got a net thrown on me and then I died in like 3 turns from 5 people throwing spears at me. RIP.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 00:20

a shiny rock: Nov 13, 2009

i saw natasha, so i berserked, took two steps towards her, and the berserk wore off. why did that happen? i don't normally play berserkers.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 02:32

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

low blood sugar maybe

# ? Oct 31, 2014 02:55

tote up a bags: Jun 8, 2006; die stoats die

Ibram Gaunt posted:

went to the shoals for the first time armed with a +4 antimagic executioners axe, as well as a +3 fire one, was doing pretty well until I got a net thrown on me and then I died in like 3 turns from 5 people throwing spears at me. RIP.

i look up at the sky and shout gently caress every time i get shoals

# ? Oct 31, 2014 03:00

Roctavian: Feb 23, 2011

Parallax Scroll posted:

i saw natasha, so i berserked, took two steps towards her, and the berserk wore off. why did that happen? i don't normally play berserkers.

possibly she got a slow off on you first, which meant those two steps took a little longer than usual?

# ? Oct 31, 2014 03:16

a shiny rock: Nov 13, 2009

Roctavian posted:

possibly she got a slow off on you first, which meant those two steps took a little longer than usual?

maybe. if she did i didn't notice.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 03:25

OkieMurse: Nov 2, 2011; I get paid to stab people with sharp objects.

Digging the Halloween easter eggs.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 05:52

Swelter Discharge: Mar 21, 2013

OkieMurse posted:

Digging the Halloween easter eggs.

are those only online?

# ? Oct 31, 2014 05:57

Roctavian: Feb 23, 2011

http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/

the one that says tiles build

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:12

OkieMurse: Nov 2, 2011; I get paid to stab people with sharp objects.

Casters are so much harder early on than my MiBe. The hobgoblins are getting their fill of my blood tonight.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:18

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Be a naga, their blood is poisonous and if you get a red tail they know to avoid you like poison dart frogs.

Actually why don't nagas gain more poison spit damage for eating poisonous food.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 07:55

OkieMurse: Nov 2, 2011; I get paid to stab people with sharp objects.

I was on D:9 or 10 and in a bit of trouble so I climbed up some trapdoor stairs. Ended up in a room with no door to the main portion of the map with some fountains in it. 1 door leading to a hallway with hedges. 1 more door and there was a room full of shifters and fire crabs and cyclops and wraiths.... rip.

I didn't even know that there were zoos like that hiding off the map. I was laughing out loud at how ridiculous it was the whole time.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 10:49

Saki: Jan 9, 2008; Can't you feel the knife?

Anyone got any tips for Skalds? trying to get a HeSk off the ground and not sure what skills/spells to prioritise.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 11:24

Ralp: Aug 19, 2004; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I've been playing dumb easy melee characters and things always start hitting me really hard a few levels down in the Lair. I wonder if this is the time when I should start enchanting my armor even though I haven't found anything special yet, or maybe my skill training is hosed up, or it just seems like I should start doing something a bit differently.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 12:11

Zoq-Fot-Pik: Jun 27, 2008; Frungy!

Ion Helmet posted:

I've been playing dumb easy melee characters and things always start hitting me really hard a few levels down in the Lair. I wonder if this is the time when I should start enchanting my armor even though I haven't found anything special yet, or maybe my skill training is hosed up, or it just seems like I should start doing something a bit differently.

Some things in Lair just hit really hard and you have to be careful fighting them regardless of character (Hydras, spiny frogs, elephants, death yaks)

# ? Oct 31, 2014 16:25

a shiny rock: Nov 13, 2009

Ion Helmet posted:

I've been playing dumb easy melee characters and things always start hitting me really hard a few levels down in the Lair. I wonder if this is the time when I should start enchanting my armor even though I haven't found anything special yet, or maybe my skill training is hosed up, or it just seems like I should start doing something a bit differently.

If you're doing heavy armor, the main skills you'll need are your weapon type, fighting, and armor. Also shield if you're using one. If you follow a god like Oka you can activate his abilities in tough fights too.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 16:46

Zoq-Fot-Pik: Jun 27, 2008; Frungy!

Parallax Scroll posted:

If you're doing heavy armor, the main skills you'll need are your weapon type, fighting, and armor. Also shield if you're using one. If you follow a god like Oka you can activate his abilities in tough fights too.

This.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 16:51

a shiny rock: Nov 13, 2009

Also wands can be a lifesaver for melee characters so put some points in evocations too I guess.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 16:58

Thug Lessons: Dec 14, 2006; I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Anyway really the only way to deal with Lair is to learn Lair, learn the monsters and figure out whether they're something you can take with your current character. However you can always run from hydras, yaks and death yaks, so just do that if they're what's giving you trouble. Also it's okay to use your enchant scrolls early, a lot of good players just dump the early ones into whatever they have to give early survivability.

Skill training follows the basic principle of "train offense until it's sufficient to take on current threats, then train defense", an a central principle is reaching min delay with your weapon. If you look at an item in the inventory screen, you'll see delay and min delay. Every two levels of weapon skill lowers delay by 0.1 turns until it reaches min delay, in other words, you need ((delay - min delay) * 2 * 10) skill. It's good to focus on lowering delay early (i.e. training weapon skill exclusively), but it's usually not worth it to rush min delay to the detriment of all else, especially when using a weapon that requires a lot of skill. A battleaxe needs 20 skill to reach min delay, but it's counterproductive to rush that while completely failing to train Fighting (which raises HP) or Armour/Dodging. However once you reach min delay, and haven't secured another weapon you want to use instead, it's safe to turn off the weapon skill entirely.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 17:03

a shiny rock: Nov 13, 2009

oh yeah get a blowgun and poison everything dangerous from a distance. works on almost everything in lair

# ? Oct 31, 2014 17:05

Thug Lessons: Dec 14, 2006; I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Parallax Scroll posted:

oh yeah get a blowgun and poison everything dangerous from a distance. works on almost everything in lair

It doesn't work on the most dangerous monsters, namely hydras, spiny frogs and black mambas. It also technically works on death yaks but good luck killing those with needles.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 17:11

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 06:28

a shiny rock: Nov 13, 2009

Thug Lessons posted:

It doesn't work on the most dangerous monsters, namely hydras, spiny frogs and black mambas. It also technically works on death yaks but good luck killing those with needles.

p sure you can poison hydras. anyway the point is to soften them up before you whack em.

# ? Oct 31, 2014 17:16

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