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I thought the anecdote about robot work conditions was interesting. I'm looking forward to some more stuff about Paladin though, my impression of her so far is that she's intelligent, driven and confident... so I'm really hoping the next few pages go more into her motivations and worldview.
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I'm hoping that Paladin can help push Alison out of this slump she's in. It'd be nice for her to finally start taking action to solve one problem instead of trying to think of a solution to all problems.
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Oct 19, 2014 19:43
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Falstaff posted:The question on my mind at this point is why, if Paladin is such an obvious robotics prodigy, has she not been bumped off by whatever force wants to bump off anyone who's capable of changing the world? Seems bleeding edge robotics would qualify. Maybe they haven't gotten to it yet so the authors can have Allison see one of these murders directly in a future chapter.
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Seems like exactly the sort of reaction a college-age super-genius would have to being told that their particle accelerator will be delayed by a week. Lisa seems like a pretty cool person though.
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Oct 21, 2014 11:09
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Until this moment I'd never recognized that John Henry was a 'gently caress progress!' story. And while it tries to sympathize with the common worker the end result is a black man literally working himself to death for the railroad owner. Now I'm wondering what dark secrets Johnny Appleseed might hold.
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Oct 21, 2014 17:08
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Well, you see, it's about their drummer and how he gets laid in every city they visit on tour.
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DrakePegasus posted:Until this moment I'd never recognized that John Henry was a 'gently caress progress!' story. And while it tries to sympathize with the common worker the end result is a black man literally working himself to death for the railroad owner. Now I'm wondering what dark secrets Johnny Appleseed might hold. Well, it it's that in the wake of mechanization, nothing good's going to happen to these out of work laborers. They're going to have to go off and find some even more poo poo job in a world that probably hates them. John Henry was fighting to was fighting for everyone he knew to keep their jobs. It was the same deal with the Luddites. Progress tends to gently caress over little people sometimes. Like what's that mural supposed to be? Is the robot saying, "Great work here, John. Now we don't need you anymore, so you can just accept your inferiority and maybe go die in a mine or take a stab at sharecropping, I've heard that's nice."
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SlothfulCobra posted:Like what's that mural supposed to be? Is the robot saying, "Great work here, John. Now we don't need you anymore, so you can just accept your inferiority and maybe go die in a mine or take a stab at sharecropping, I've heard that's nice." I guess that he's free to go find his real passion and potential, which seems hard for someone who was born with a hammer in his hands, lord lord.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Well, it it's that in the wake of mechanization, nothing good's going to happen to these out of work laborers. They're going to have to go off and find some even more poo poo job in a world that probably hates them. John Henry was fighting to was fighting for everyone he knew to keep their jobs. It was the same deal with the Luddites. Progress tends to gently caress over little people sometimes. The mural means "John Henry is gonna bang that robot". Also, the story of John Henry is hugely about how the individual workers are gonna get hosed over and will have to work other lovely jobs, but also that a man's determination and heart can always mean the difference between success and failure. (Allison is totally gonna pick that subreactor up onto her shoulder and just be like "Where's this poo poo going?". Either it's gonna go great or the thing will have a stress fracture and explode.)
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rotinaj posted:(Allison is totally gonna pick that subreactor up onto her shoulder and just be like "Where's this poo poo going?". Either it's gonna go great or the thing will have a stress fracture and explode.) Exactly what I came in here to say. I'm a little torn because it always bugs me when Superman lifts an entire plane by one wing flap, but then it'd also be pretty unrealistic for Allison not to foresee this outcome. I guess we're operating on comic book rules though. Anyway the John Henry shoe fits. Surely she's going to put five separate construction teams out of work by lifting I-beams for a hobby, and have to grapple with the wider ramifications of that.
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I think that's why she's asking if it's all one piece, since that would make it easier to move without breaking chunks off of it. But yeah, hopefully she will lift it in a non-ridiculous way.
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There's really no safe, stable way for her to lift it - She's more likely to put her feet through the floor when she puts its entire weight through her heels.
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She picked up the deathbot without either sinking into the concrete or having it collapse under its own weight, so superhero physics are in full effect.
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Oct 24, 2014 16:13
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I done been told. 
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Tactile Telekinesis!
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"You try me, Taylor. That's what you do, you try me." SFP isn't a masterpiece of writing, for sure, but I like what it does when it does it well.
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The Modern Leper posted:"You try me, Taylor. That's what you do, you try me." I'm not an American so I'm not really familiar with any John Henry stories, but I assume she's inadvertently quoting or paraphrasing a mine owner there?
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Oct 25, 2014 15:08
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Nah, it's just a facepalm moment that tickled me.
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Oct 25, 2014 16:36
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My copy of Book One showed up in the mail today. It's pretty nice, but I haven't gotten much of a chance to poke through it yet.
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It's almost like those robots are tiny posters on their own terrible forum.
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Brought To You By posted:It's almost like those robots are tiny posters on their own terrible forum. That's probably scary close to what being in an actual hive-mind is really like.
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Oct 28, 2014 16:33
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Yeah, my frame of reference are the Tachikoma episodes from Ghost in the Shell.
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Brought To You By posted:Yeah, my frame of reference are the Tachikoma episodes from Ghost in the Shell. They were so adorable and I loved it when they froze that android with logical contradictions.
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I always thought idea of stopping an AI with logical contradictions was kind of silly. Any properly designed logic engine is going to be able to handle Undefined truth values. For some reason AIs in media all seem to use raw booleans and have 0 catch blocks. Edit: Pshh wow for a second there I forgot this wasn't a programming thread. Pavlov fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Oct 28, 2014 18:26
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Frankly, I thought Portal 2 handled it in a clever manner by having the AI be too stupid to realize it was a logical contradiction.
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Axiem posted:Frankly, I thought Portal 2 handled it in a clever manner by having the AI be too stupid to realize it was a logical contradiction.
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Bender is a pretty well crafted AI since he can solve resolve logic conflicts by not caring about them.
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Don't forget paradox absorbing crumple zones.
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Turing and Lovelace happily plucking the apples from the tree of knowledge proves it, she is intentionally putting up murals that defy the moral of the original story.
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Her power is being a super genius technology person. It makes sense that she would forcibly reject anti-technology, anti-knowledge, anti-progress messages.
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I like how all her attempts at creating an idealized version of a conscious intelligence, results in said intelligence immediately becoming homicidal/suicidal. It's a chilling fact considering that she's demonstrably very good at it.
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The best part of that is it's actually oddly close to what it really feels like trying to program a complex and ambiguously defined system. I wasn't really expecting my social justice superhero comic to understand me as a programmer today.
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Computers are bullshit mystery cubes, man.
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Slashrat posted:I like how all her attempts at creating an idealized version of a conscious intelligence, results in said intelligence immediately becoming homicidal/suicidal. It's a chilling fact considering that she's demonstrably very good at it. It sticks out to me that she hasn't tried putting together all three versions yet. Something with justice and fairness that can also be empathic and sympathetic, while having enough humor to get through the bad crap. Unless that's behind door number 4 here.
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Warmachine posted:It sticks out to me that she hasn't tried putting together all three versions yet. Something with justice and fairness that can also be empathic and sympathetic, while having enough humor to get through the bad crap. Unless that's behind door number 4 here. Alternatively, the result will be an AI that decides to be omnicidal for the lols
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IF I'm reading the last panel right, she already got an "lol suicide" AI
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Slashrat posted:I like how all her attempts at creating an idealized version of a conscious intelligence, results in said intelligence immediately becoming homicidal/suicidal. It's a chilling fact considering that she's demonstrably very good at it. Well, not all attempts, just the first three. Presumably the AI she had greeting the door isn't totally homicidal.
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Carrasco posted:Well, not all attempts, just the first three. Presumably the AI she had greeting the door isn't totally homicidal. It is, but it is bound to its laws not to kill anyone directly. That is why it offers deadly neurotoxin to people.
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