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I forgot to mention that I quite enjoyed the little joke about how the psychic paper revealing the Doctor as a government official apparently has a ton of bad language on it.
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Nov 1, 2014 23:24
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Doug Sisk posted:Danny as a cyberman companion next year, we know the Doctor can grow to like individual ones! Let's see, cyber-converted former lover 
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Nov 1, 2014 23:25
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Nov 1, 2014 23:26
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DoctorWhat posted:It's exposition that plays into character development. The exposition is meant as much for Danny, Clara, and the Doctor as it is for us. I'm going to have to disagree with this. I learnt nothing new about Danny, Clara or the Doctor today. I did however learn a lot of nonsense I have no reason to give a poo poo about.
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Nov 1, 2014 23:29
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PriorMarcus posted:I'm going to have to disagree with this. I learnt nothing new about Danny, Clara or the Doctor today. I did however learn a lot of nonsense I have no reason to give a poo poo about. Danny and Clara believe that nonsense and are going to act on that belief. Danny's decision to erase his own emotions is based in large part on the misinformation he's been fed.
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Nov 1, 2014 23:33
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I did hope that when Clara told him Danny was dead, the Doctor would say that of course he is, we're thousands of years in the future relative to Earth. Danny is usually dead when we go travelling. I am very much looking forward to next weeks episode. Is there any chance that Missy's tardis will be destroyed and she'll be left stranded at the end of time? I can't remember whether the Master ever gave any indication that his last seen incarnation was a direct continuation of one that the Doctor knew about.
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Nov 1, 2014 23:34
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DoctorWhat posted:Danny and Clara believe that nonsense and are going to act on that belief. Danny's decision to erase his own emotions is based in large part on the misinformation he's been fed. Danny isn't going to press Delete.
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Nov 1, 2014 23:34
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I wonder if when Missy brought the Half-Face Man into "the promised land" it was because she was looking for the right robot/cyborg basis to create her new empire with (and settled on the Cybermen). Did she pull a bizarro "Utopia" trap like she did with the humans at the end of the universe by sending out a message to cybernetic races offering them a "promised land"? I guess we'll find out next week! Or not!
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Nov 1, 2014 23:34
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PriorMarcus posted:The Cybermen win, Danny exist was one for thousands and thousands of years. Danny is Handles. Given that Handles was clearly intelligent, why the hell would the Cybermen need an organic component anyway? They should have re-assimilated Handles, and had some kind of organic vs non-organic cyber civil war.
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Nov 1, 2014 23:36
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PriorMarcus posted:Danny isn't going to press Delete. I meant his decision as to whether or not to push the button.
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Nov 1, 2014 23:39
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A rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrange of visitors
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Nov 1, 2014 23:44
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The Cyberman reveal would've been really really awesome...if they hadn't actually shown them in the trailer and left it to be a surprise. God its just like in the old series where they'd call a story _______ of the Daleks and expect us to be surprised that oh no! Its the Daleks! Wow, never saw that one coming.
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Nov 1, 2014 23:50
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dsub posted:Why do you need to put a human skeleton into a cyberman? A skeleton doesn't have a brain. Are they all fleshy first and the fleshy parts get somehow integrated over time? Now this is all probably a bullshit cover story that The Master invented in order to convince people to build him Cybermen, but I think it makes sense and will be elaborated on next time.
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Nov 1, 2014 23:58
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"But ma'am, wouldn't people want their suits to have some personalization? And why does the design have these handles?"
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Nov 2, 2014 00:00
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I really want the Doctor to meet Seb and verbally chew him up and spit him out, just for old times sake! Sadly I could easily see Seb either just being forgotten about now having served his purpose or who he is just being a throw away line. God would it be Moffat enough to make Seb the Rani? Haha Master is now a woman, Rani now a man and working together (not at all going to happen but it seems Moffat enough in theory).
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Nov 2, 2014 00:06
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Irony Be My Shield posted:This all seems pretty obvious to me - imagine that a scientist told you that dead people could feel what was happening to their bodies, and also that you might be able to use their "soul" to animate a machine. Isn't the natural next step to allow dead people to control what is happening to their bodies? That means they'd be able to protect themselves (inside a presumably warm and sterile environment) and also feel appropriate sensations as they are walking around in the "real world". The details behind it seem to be like "your brain/consciousness is now in the cloud, but you still feel what happens to your body, but you have to choose whether or not to disconnect yourselves". I mean, Cybermen aren't exactly humane fellows so what's the real point of asking for permission exactly? I feel like the only reason this threshold exists is for Danny to reject it and allow him to be resurrected, and it doesn't seem like much of a loophole in the rules rather than there is a Danny-shaped exit he just needs to navigate to.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:08
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I do like that the premise of the Nethersphere is basically the same premise as Miracle Day.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:09
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Kind of sad they won't have John Simm back for a regeneration scene 
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Nov 2, 2014 00:09
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Just watched the moment where Missy reveals who she is again and it's amazing. The Doctor's immediate reaction kind of flicks between confusion and happiness and then it cuts to Missy who is in a state of almost ecstatic anticipation now that she has revealed it and is waiting to see it impact the Doctor. Then it cuts back to the Doctor backing away in horror as the full realization of what this means hits him like a ton of bricks. Great stuff from Capaldi of course, but also from Michelle Gomez.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:14
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If there is even a hint of a quote from Curse of Fatal Death I will lose it. Missy Master is great, I'm sure Moffat will find a way to stuff it all up though.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:14
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Nov 2, 2014 00:16
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Of course The Master was going to be the one to break out of Gallifrey first. I mean, the reason the Time Lords didn't push the whole planet through the crack was that they were waiting for the all clear. The Master doesn't give a poo poo, he probably broke out of prison and stole a TARDIS first thing in the morning after punching out Timothy Dalton.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:17
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Jerusalem posted:Just watched the moment where Missy reveals who she is again and it's amazing. The Doctor's immediate reaction kind of flicks between confusion and happiness and then it cuts to Missy who is in a state of almost ecstatic anticipation now that she has revealed it and is waiting to see it impact the Doctor. Then it cuts back to the Doctor backing away in horror as the full realization of what this means hits him like a ton of bricks. Curious to know; how would you rate it against the Jacobi reveal?
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Nov 2, 2014 00:19
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Metal Loaf posted:Curious to know; how would you rate it against the Jacobi reveal? I'd say Jacobi's was better, shame he died 30 seconds after. I hope The Mistress escapes next episode and becomes Capaldi's Delgado Master for the next series or so.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:19
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Darth Ronson posted:Given that Handles was clearly intelligent, why the hell would the Cybermen need an organic component anyway? They should have re-assimilated Handles, and had some kind of organic vs non-organic cyber civil war. Because THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE loving ROBOTS AND gently caress HANDLES FOR THAT. This episode is millions of times better than last week, but I have no real reaction until I know what's up with the Cybermen. Also is the Master really just going to call herself Mistress now? MASTER IS A GENDER NEUTRAL TERM.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:20
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Metal Loaf posted:Curious to know; how would you rate it against the Jacobi reveal? Jacobi reveal was superior, but that's no knock against this one because I mean goddamn, it was Derek Jacobi! I think this reveal came in a superior episode though. I always thought Utopia was a pretty uninspired episode outside of a little of the interaction between the Doctor and Jack, but it's easy to forget how bland most of the episode is because it serves mostly as a delivery mechanism for Jacobi's performance and the amazing reveal/cliffhanger.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:22
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The BEEP BOP I'M A ROBOT part at the start was hilarious. You could see The Master was just loving with him at maximum power.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:23
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Metal Loaf posted:Curious to know; how would you rate it against the Jacobi reveal? Personally, I don't think anything else in Doctor Who has topped the Jacobi reveal yet.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:24
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Ludicro posted:The Cyberman reveal would've been really really awesome...if they hadn't actually shown them in the trailer and left it to be a surprise. The best cock-up was the season 2 finale. They go to massive lengths to keep the Dalek reveal a secret, including removing the final shot of the first episode showing the Daleks coming out of the sphere. But in the preview clip from the week before, they show a guy getting shot with those very distinctive Dalek lasers even though that scene isnt in the episode
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Nov 2, 2014 00:25
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Well Manicured Man posted:Personally, I don't think anything else in Doctor Who has topped the Jacobi reveal yet. Well, the out-of-loving-nowhere one-two punch of John Hurt's first appearance, and the subsequent release of Night of the Doctor, are the only things that can even begin to compare.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:26
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Burkion posted:Also is the Master really just going to call herself Mistress now? Well I'm hoping that they just called her Missy because they didn't want to give away the reveal until this episode, and now that the cat is out of the bag they just revert to "the Master" since that's already what I've started calling her/thinking of her.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:27
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Jerusalem posted:Well I'm hoping that they just called her Missy because they didn't want to give away the reveal until this episode, and now that the cat is out of the bag they just revert to "the Master" since that's already what I've started calling her.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:28
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''The Mistress'' is a bit more sexualized than ''The Master'', since well, one of those two titles commonly refers to adultery.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:28
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Man, I really hope that the Gomez Master isn't a direct follow-up from Simm. That's my biggest issue with it - I don't really buy a post-EOT Master doing this sort of thing.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:29
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DoctorWhat posted:Well, the out-of-loving-nowhere one-two punch of John Hurt's first appearance, and the subsequent release of Night of the Doctor, are the only things that can even begin to compare. Why everyone complains about the TO BE CONTINUED ending but not the big floating credit in that episode is beyond me. The War Doctor and John Hurt is another Moffat invention I don't care for. Night however was awesome.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:32
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Jerusalem posted:Well I'm hoping that they just called her Missy because they didn't want to give away the reveal until this episode, and now that the cat is out of the bag they just revert to "the Master" since that's already what I've started calling her/thinking of her. They didn't have to call her anything.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:33
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Super.Jesus posted:one of those two titles commonly refers to adultery. The other refers to BDSM!
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Super.Jesus posted:''The Mistress'' is a bit more sexualized than ''The Master'', since well, one of those two titles commonly refers to adultery. Well yeah, as soon as the Master regenerates into a woman he starts calling the Doctor his boyfriend, having a massive crush on him and snogging him passionately. It's the perils of being a woman in Moffat's eyes.
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