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forbidden lesbian posted:What's secondary in counterspells?
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Nov 1, 2014 15:05
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Gutteral response is the only non blue and non planar chaos counter spell in newer sets I can think of. Edit: oh, lapse of certainty is pretty cool. Molybdenum fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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Nov 1, 2014 15:11
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Besides Lapse of Certainty there's also Frontline Medic, which is a pretty weird card. It sits in the same territory as Pearl Lake Ancient in that it's a painfully bottom-up card that just stinks of "development made this card in order to make sure deck X has some kind of counter to it/matchup X has an out".
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Nov 1, 2014 15:16
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Molybdenum posted:Gutteral response is the only non blue and non planar chaos counter spell in newer sets I can think of.
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Nov 1, 2014 16:08
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Mondrian posted:Yeah a conditional 3/2 that you build around is way better than a 3/3 that requires you to hit 2 fetches. It's conditional in the same way that Tarmogoyf is a conditional 3/4 or more for 2 mana. So, just play magic and it will happen very quickly. I'll admit that before Treasure Cruise, Delver decks weren't really doing anything too crazy, but blue getting a 3/2 flier for one is still bullshit.
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Nov 1, 2014 17:00
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White is allowed to have taxing counters, as white is allowed to have taxing effects in general. They're generally weak though
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Nov 1, 2014 17:12
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Lets Pickle posted:I'm amazed Delver of Secrets has made it as long as it has without it at least being in the discussion for banning. Wild Nacatl, though now unbanned, was banned for a while in Modern because a 3/3 for 1 was considered too strong. Well how about a 3/2 flier for 1 in blue, is that not too strong? Let's not pretend that this thing is going to go more than a turn or two without transforming. It is a 3/2 flier for one blue mana. The fact that a blue deck can play a 3/2 flier on turn one and then tempo you out for the rest of the game is kind of bullshit. At a Modern tourney about a month ago, I had a UR Delver player with three Delvers on board game 1, and he never got to flip them (me playing Esper Mill)
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Nov 1, 2014 17:49
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If Hornet Queen represents a violation of the sacred color pie I'd love to see MaRo's reaction to Wurmcoil Engine.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:34
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Equilibrium posted:If Hornet Queen represents a violation of the sacred color pie I'd love to see MaRo's reaction to Wurmcoil Engine. It's an artifact, it's okay for artifacts to dip in the color pie in various colours and basically disregard it. That's kind of what they do, actually. VV: I never said there aren't limitations, I said that artifacts are 'outside' the colour pie in that regard. Serperoth fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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Nov 1, 2014 18:37
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Serperoth posted:It's an artifact, it's okay for artifacts to dip in the color pie in various colours and basically disregard it. That's kind of what they do, actually. There have been some 400 colorless creatures printed in Magic. Only 1 of them ever has had deathtouch or lifelink printed on it, and it's the same card. You are insane if you don't think there are internal limitations on what colorless creatures are allowed to do, since you're essentially color bleeding in all directions at that point.
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Nov 1, 2014 18:54
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Equilibrium posted:If Hornet Queen represents a violation of the sacred color pie I'd love to see MaRo's reaction to Wurmcoil Engine. Wurmcoil Engine is Phyrexian, and color bleed in the name of Phyrexia is just and moral (hence Phyrexian Mana and indeed the entire New Phyrexia set)
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Nov 1, 2014 19:03
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Artifacts have always kind of had their own slice of the color pie. They can exile/destroy creatures/permanents, mill cards, give P/T bonuses, grant keyword abilities (pretty much every single one has appeared on some card or another at this point)... a whole lot of things that one color or another doesn't get to do otherwise. Anyway, even though it's the only artifact creature with deathtouch/lifelink, artifacts (equipment) have granted both deathtouch and lifelink for quite a long time, sometimes on the same card (Basilisk Collar). The big problem with Wurmcoil Engine isn't that it has deathtouch/lifelink, it's that it's a ridiculously efficient card for 6 colorless mana. Any deck can play it and usually get huge value out of it, even decks that probably shouldn't get to do that without diluting their mana base.
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Nov 1, 2014 19:14
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Allstone posted:I don't think anyone is, just like nobody is secondary in Indestructible. Red should get its anti blue only counterspells back imo.
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Nov 1, 2014 19:20
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Cactrot posted:Red should get its anti blue only counterspells back imo. No red can only have bad spells that blow up lands as the gimmick. Demolish in every block. They should also reprint Boomerang. Because I love blue. But I also love red. So I'm allowed to be happy and angry at the same time.
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Nov 1, 2014 19:36
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I wonder if they're ever going to revisit land destruction. Like I dunno intead of outright destroying the land make it only produce colorless land instead or something.
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Nov 1, 2014 19:39
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I'm a fan of giving red spells that punish their opponents for playing cards red doesn't like, myself, rather than giving red access to countermagic. Cards like Ash Zealot and Eidolon of the Great Revel. It seems to fit in the pie already in principle... but maybe the execution could use a little more work.
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Nov 1, 2014 19:40
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Went 3-1 at fnm last night with mardu midrange, losing 1of my 2 Abzan matches. The Abzan deck that I beat was played by a deaf person, there is no better cure for missing triggers than having to thumbs up every one and point out what you're doing on the card. It was the most chill game of magic I've ever played though.
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Nov 1, 2014 19:40
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Don't tell anyone but Young Pyromancer is frequently much better than Delver of Secrets 
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Nov 1, 2014 20:29
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I'm glad young pyromancer eventually came into its own. It was one of those cards where I read it and instantly felt it must be busted, but it never really did anything until just recently.
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Nov 1, 2014 20:46
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When I started playing Magic (about a year ago  ) the main guy I played with had 4 decks. Goblins, Elves, Tron (I built all my decks solely to beat this one at the time), and Burn (no Goblin Guides because  ). Young Pyromancer showed his stuff rather well there, as did Ash Zealot (an early-game creature that my early-game creatures can't do poo poo about. WELP).
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Nov 1, 2014 20:56
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cheetah7071 posted:I'm glad young pyromancer eventually came into its own. It was one of those cards where I read it and instantly felt it must be busted, but it never really did anything until just recently. Its so you can tap out for pyromancer and kill the opposing pyromancer without letting them get value
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Nov 1, 2014 21:23
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edit: whoops
Loving Life Partner fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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Nov 1, 2014 21:26
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Minotaurs on scg right now 
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Nov 1, 2014 21:50
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And getting its rear end totally kicked at the moment.
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Nov 1, 2014 21:54
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The hat and shirt worn by the Minotaurs player, just wow, breathtaking really.
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Nov 1, 2014 21:56
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Digital Camo jacket and a Beige beret. Quite fashionable. 
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Nov 1, 2014 21:59
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Why would you not attack when you have lifelink and all the opponent has on board is a 1/1? That's major profit.
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Nov 1, 2014 22:04
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drat! I was with the commentators on that one, I really wish the minotaurs player had gone a bit further in that game.
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Nov 1, 2014 22:04
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And if he had swung he would have stayed in the game. R/B is not usually a defensive color combo, it seems.
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Nov 1, 2014 22:05
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Man I think I'm done with competitive magic, it's not worth the disappointment that comes with drawing an extra card by accident
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Nov 1, 2014 22:51
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lmao seriously dude? It's not like you lost out on a pro tour win, you hosed up and got a game loss for it, just shrug it off.
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Nov 1, 2014 22:56
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TheKingofSprings posted:Man I think I'm done with competitive magic, it's not worth the disappointment that comes with drawing an extra card by accident Ciprian Maricon posted:lmao seriously dude? It's not like you lost out on a pro tour win, you hosed up and got a game loss for it, just shrug it off. 
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Nov 1, 2014 23:23
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I've missed out on a PTQ Top 8 to drawing extra cards, I've hosed up mulligans and gone down to four in the must win match to make Day 2 of a GP, have had to call a Judge and hang my head in shame when a game winning Burning Wish resolved and I counted 17 cards in my sideboard. Magic has left me butthurt and salty plenty of times but you have to learn to shrug it off, laugh at yourself, crack jokes. No one likes the guy who loses to something and spends all of dinner after the event whining or makes a face and says "I quit" because they messed something up. Don't be that guy.
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Nov 1, 2014 23:40
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Cool, I was hoping there'd be coverage of the team sealed deck building.
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Nov 1, 2014 23:41
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GB Constellation I love you... 
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Nov 2, 2014 00:37
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It has a lot of components that I was looking at for an abzan reanimator deck. I don't think I could give up on my Ashen Riders though, and of course the courser/caryatid package would be a pain to obtain.
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Nov 2, 2014 00:43
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That Jeskai Heroic Combo, oh man, just watching that...  I'm honestly interested in this because I've been trying to get the deck working and I was thinking that it was one color too many.
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Nov 2, 2014 01:24
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 Duel Decks: Elspeth vs. Kiora EDIT: Fate Reforged is set 1000 years before Khans of Tarkir.   EDIT2:  Temur's past leader. Set is monocolor but has hybrid ability costs. EDIT3: No 3-color gold cards. Watermarks still present, clan allegiances will "be more subtle" -Pre-release still choose-your-clan type thing EDIT4: 
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Nov 2, 2014 01:28
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Jeskai Ascendancy is real dumb
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Nov 2, 2014 01:33
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Calling it: the plot is about Sarkhan going back in time to help Ugin win the battle; the third set is Tarkir but with dragons everywhere. Ugin as a colorless planeswalker either in this set or the next.
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