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How does Ceasar fit in to all of that, or does he at all?
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Mr. Nice! posted:How does Ceasar fit in to all of that, or does he at all? I believe he's Carlos Sr.'s grandson through one of his daughters.
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Oct 30, 2014 16:13
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i spent several years thinking richard perez was caesar gracie
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Oct 30, 2014 16:15
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Mr. Nice! posted:How does Ceasar fit in to all of that, or does he at all? quote:Cesar Gracie, born in 1966, is related to Carlos Gracie Senior (the Gracie Jiu Jitsu founder) by way of his mother, Sonja Gracie-Gronning. His parents separated when Cesar was still a toddler and Cesar was raised solely by the Gracie side of the family being Jiu Jitsu a natural part of his upbringing.
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Oct 30, 2014 16:16
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So he's Renzo's cousin. That's cool.
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Oct 30, 2014 16:19
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So which Gracie black belts are Matt Serras and which ones come with a videotape?
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Oct 30, 2014 16:24
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Decades posted:Could lockdown put kneebar-style pressure directly on someone's knee? I feel like the lock would have to be inverted somehow. I don't know much about lockdown though. It was probably something silly with obvious exits that I didn't see cause I was thinking about the choke I also don't know much about it but here is what I was sort of referring to: Knee Bar from Reverse Lockdown http://youtu.be/i0vzj73BRnM Some guys at my gym that play lockdown try stuff similar to this. Looking back, the best descriptor is probably what you already mentioned (figure 4 lock using the legs).
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Oct 30, 2014 17:37
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david carmichael posted:i spent several years thinking richard perez was caesar gracie Same
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Oct 30, 2014 21:47
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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Captain Log posted:So which Gracie black belts are Matt Serras and which ones come with a videotape? Matt Serra got his black belt from Renzo, the coolest gracie.
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Oct 30, 2014 21:48
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There's also this handy chart for seeing who trained under who and started different schools: My instructor was under Helio (alongside Al Bundy) but got his BB from Royce.
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Oct 30, 2014 22:25
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Kekekela posted:There's also this handy chart for seeing who trained under who and started different schools: the lack of arrows on the graph make it, at first brush, seem like nova uniao may possibly be benjamin buttoning backward to jigoro kano. jiu jitsu is like 4 ballshots on a cliff.
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Oct 30, 2014 22:35
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Dangersim posted:Matt Serra got his black belt from Renzo, the coolest gracie. Renzo is the coolest living Gracie. Rolls was the coolest Gracie.
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Kekekela posted:There's also this handy chart for seeing who trained under who and started different schools: That's a cool image, thanks for that. My instructor is John Will, whose lineage is Helio>Rolls>Carlos>Regan Machado. RIP Rolls, you were cool as hell, unfortunately being cool as hell is what killed you. LeftistMuslimObama posted:jiu jitsu is like 4 ballshots on a cliff. Legit laughed out loud, thank you.
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district of thizz posted:I also don't know much about it but here is what I was sort of referring to: Knee Bar from Reverse Lockdown http://youtu.be/i0vzj73BRnM Yeah must've been something along these lines, it's just weird cause I still had his head and arm wrapped. Pretty dope move.
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So, had a different class to normal today. The professor was in and he took us. Normally, we'd warm up, get shown a technique, drill it, shown another, drill it, then positional sparring. Today he had us warm up, then showed us 3 techniques, had us drill them, then had us work them all together in one sequence, one after another on our partner. Then some conditioning (he said). Drilling hop up from guard then guillotine armbar techniques. For the life of me, I could not figure out where to position my legs for the latter. Just couldn't get a grip on it. I've watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LttXraB9tVs and hopefully have a grip on it now. But anyway, it was an excellent class. Felt good to see how our three techniques work together in one move (drop into guard, scissor sweep then a choke - sorry, I dunno the names). Then the last 10 mins, conditioning, that killed me. I've got good cardio normally but this was murder. Anyway, different is good? Different is sexy? What if God was one of us?
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Kekekela posted:There's also this handy chart for seeing who trained under who and started different schools: Carlson trained with Helio some, but shouldn't this image go Carlos -> Carlson Gracie Sr. rather than having Carlson's branch as a sub-group of Helio's? There's a significant political/philosophical divide there at least.
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Renzo is the coolest living Gracie. Rolls was the coolest Gracie. Roger is the son of Mauricio Motta Gomes who was one of the 6 Rolls black belts along with Romero Jacare and Carlos Jr. So basically Rolls is the coolest Gracie ever and is one of the main reasons we have BJJ as we know it
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FreakyMetalKid posted:Carlson trained with Helio some, but shouldn't this image go Carlos -> Carlson Gracie Sr. rather than having Carlson's branch as a sub-group of Helio's? There's a significant political/philosophical divide there at least. Yeah, I believe you are correct.
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Quit Judo today (at least temporarily), not spur of the moment, I had planned on it for a few months, handed the club off to my co instructor after our last tournament of the year and am moving back to BJJ. Huge weight off my shoulders to not be running a club anymore. That poo poo is stressful and with my travel schedule for work it just made it unworkable. But after sitting at a four stripe white belt for 6 years I suppose it is time to start work on my blue.
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what belt color are you in Judo? I thought that at a high enough level in Judo they automatically promote you to blue belt in BJJ
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Odddzy posted:what belt color are you in Judo? I thought that at a high enough level in Judo they automatically promote you to blue belt in BJJ
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widunder posted:Why would they? At white (bjj) i've tapped a bunch of judo black belts. I believe I was told it was because judo guys have a huge advantage doing takedowns making them most often dominate early in the match. No idea if I was told a load of bull.
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Odddzy posted:I believe I was told it was because judo guys have a huge advantage doing takedowns making them most often dominate early in the match. No idea if I was told a load of bull.
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Yesterday we hosted our first grappling event called "Takakuristus" (=RearnakedChoke). The rules were 20-minutes submission only superfights. Here is the first match between two MMA fighters. Both are known for their leglocks and the guy without a shirt actually has won all of his MMA fights in the first round with leglocks. His opponent is No-Gi european champion in purple belts and Grapplers Quest european champion and this years amateurs finnish champion in mma. http://youtube.com/watch?v=o7yE20zrnYM
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Odddzy posted:what belt color are you in Judo? I thought that at a high enough level in Judo they automatically promote you to blue belt in BJJ Black, anytime I've competed I alway entered the blue belt division but the skillset isn't 1:1 so directly giving rank wouldn't make sense. For example my takedowns are great, my side control is really good, and my chokes are as good as anyone's. But my arm bars and guard game are totally average and I'm helpless if someone takes my back. Thoguh fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Nov 2, 2014 |
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That's an interesting self-assessment Thoguh, cause from my perspective as someone who (reluctantly) made the switch from Judo to nogi BJJ a few years ago, I'd say almost the exact opposite- my side control, chokes and throws were so reliant on gi handles that they had to be heavily modified and it took years for me to successfully re-incorporate them into my game, but the armbars (especially from guard) and turtle stuff have always worked great. I think my biggest revelation was actually have been about my guard game- instead of just lying there and clamping down to kill all mobility like I might in Judo, I started playing a loose seated guard and working Judo stuff just like if I were standing, and it opened up whole new worlds of possibility. Hey, I'd be interested to hear more about your reasoning for full on 'quitting Judo' to become a BJJ white belt (as opposed to doing both but changing your area of emphasis to groundwork or something). Running the club must have been pretty crazy, huh? What advice do you have for aspiring club owners like myself?
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Nothing crazy. Just lots of politics that come along with running a club. And when I'm gone 1-2 weeks a month for work it was getting increasingly tough to keep my philosophy and approach to coaching the dominant one in the club. So rather than pushing against it and either clamping down and pissing some people off or letting myself put in a bunch of work in the backend (paperwork, advertising, stuff like that) but handing over the teaching duties of everyone but the beginners to someone else; I just met with the guy who teaches when I'm out of town and we agreed to have him take over full time.
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Right on. Judo politics is always messy business, I think can I see how you might prefer to just move on.
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TheCool69 posted:Yesterday we hosted our first grappling event called "Takakuristus" How bad was the knee? Leglocks scare the piss out of me, not gonna lie.
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Memento posted:How bad was the knee? Leglocks scare the piss out of me, not gonna lie. "Luckily" it was only an ankle that got hurt with that inverted heelhook.. My heart sank to my stomach when i first thought that hes knee exploded. Second match that i'd like to share with you guys is bjj match so its with a gi. The two guys both are absolutely beast so this was definately the Match Of The Night and super entertaining. Guy on the blue gi is 2011,2012 and 2014 and had winning percent of 91% on blue belts and 2012 IBJJ London Open champion The black gi guy is one of the top finnish grapplers. In purple belts this year he won silver on World championships and also won his own weight class+open weight european championship. He is also multiple time finnish champ http://youtube.com/watch?v=7lHGN0rv2Y8 TheCool69 fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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I'm thinking of making a new program for my training. I'm bumping up my mat time from 2 times to 3 times a week. After getting used to that, I'll add 1 day of lifting to it. The program would be: -3 weeks of: Lifting - Day off - BJJ - Day off - BJJ - Day off - BJJ -1 week of: Day off - Lifting - Day off - Lifting - Day Off - Day Off -1 week of: Day off - Day off - BJJ - Day off - BJJ - Day off - Day off After last week, repeat with the 3 week program. Comments?
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I think its smart to cycle your weeks, I've herad it gives much better gains and reduces burnout.
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I prefer my program, where I train a bunch and rest sometimes and lift weights when I feel like it
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Now days I just lift heavy things three times a week in the morning till I get tired and eat less than 40 grams of carbs a day except one day where I shovel poo poo into my gob and I feel good and look better than I ever have. Also kit Dale is apparently moving to the US to improve his training which I think is a good move if he wants to do better against the top tier black belts there's not a lot of elite bjj guys in Australia.
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Pitt-Edinboro duel on flowrestling IT HAS BEGUN
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So, I've got my first tournament in about a week. It's a white belt only tournament held at our gym. I walk around at about 195 to 200 depending on how badly I've been eating for the past few days. Should I try to cut down to the 195 cut off? The next cut off is 208 which I will make easily. I fully expect to lose, I just want it to be entertaining and less embarrassing than it has to be.
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Captain Log posted:So, I've got my first tournament in about a week. It's a white belt only tournament held at our gym. I walk around at about 195 to 200 depending on how badly I've been eating for the past few days. Should I try to cut down to the 195 cut off? The next cut off is 208 which I will make easily. I fully expect to lose, I just want it to be entertaining and less embarrassing than it has to be. I'd rather be the heaviest guy in a weight class than the lightest. I float between 150 and 160, and if I hit 161 with gi, I would be fighting people up to 20 lbs heavier than myself.
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If it's an in-house weight belt only tournament then nobody gives a poo poo. Don't bother cutting weight unless for some reason you feel compelled to.
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It's really easy to just not eat carbs for a week and losing 5 or 6 pounds but yeah who gives a gently caress.
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Well if he wants to compete more in the future this would be a good chance to practice cutting. And 5 pounds at that weight is trivial.
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