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A big flaming stink posted:Bradley Woo facing down the one deck he lost to in the swiss in the top 8, and just got comboed off, again It's a shame watching the games because, he's playing very well but the meta was unprepared for Heroic Ascendancy and so his deck just doesn't have the tools to handle this match up.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Stealing creatures isn't green, so I don't think the activated ability has to have anything to do with the main color. Doing stuff when your opponent's creatures are smaller is very green. Wizards isn't the best at sticking to the fact that hybrids should be things that both colours should be able to do on their own though - see Augury Adept.
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Nov 2, 2014 17:43
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Silver2195 posted:I was about to say that granting haste isn't very blue, but I guess that's justified by it being attached to a green body. It's really more of a matter of the ability not really working if you don't grant the creature haste, since the point is to let you attack with it. The same can be said for any ability that temporarily gives you control of something or gives you a token or whatever (see also: Unearth). E: Allstone posted:Doing stuff when your opponent's creatures are smaller is very green. Wizards isn't the best at sticking to the fact that hybrids should be things that both colours should be able to do on their own though - see Augury Adept. Not any kind of stuff. Beside the cost isn't hybrid green, it's hybrid blue and red, both of which do control-changing.
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Nov 2, 2014 17:54
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I don't understand why we are even talking about the greenness of the ability when it costs U/R to activate. A 4/2 for 3 is obviously fine in green.
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Nov 2, 2014 18:00
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Blighting your own Sylvan Caryatid to wipe the opposing field. Nice.
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ShadeofBlue posted:I don't understand why we are even talking about the greenness of the ability when it costs U/R to activate. A 4/2 for 3 is obviously fine in green. It also is based on power comparison, which is a green as it gets
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Nov 2, 2014 18:21
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Nov 2, 2014 18:38
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Holy poo poo ascendancy. G/B has hundreds of permanents on board and not a single one of the matters. Murderous Cut for 1 does nothing.
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Nov 2, 2014 18:38
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cedric and patrick are in  mode over this deck
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Nov 2, 2014 18:39
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Streaming the new Heroic Jeskai Ascendancy combo deck that everyone is buzzing about. I've only played a few sets with it so far so hang in there as I get a feel for this beast. Everyone is obviously watching the SCG stream but may as well jump on board this gravy train. Feels cool as hell so far, can easily win without seeing combo pieces but can also just go completely bonkers at any point with an ascend out. https://www.twitch.tv/tedsternator
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Nov 2, 2014 18:41
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I'm more amazed by 3 of the top 8 being GB Constellation than by this Jeskai Combo deck. It just seems bad...
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Nov 2, 2014 18:41
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Constellation is very good at beating the other mid range decks and has decent play against most other decks, after a lot of Abzan Midrange in the meta its not surprising to see the deck do well.
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mcmagic posted:I'm more amazed by 3 of the top 8 being GB Constellation than by this Jeskai Combo deck. It just seems bad... It's so good versus anything with no removal
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Nov 2, 2014 18:43
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Sampatrick posted:It's so good versus anything with no removal Yeah it wrecks decks that are just playing a guy and passing turn, which, you know, courserplay.standard
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Nov 2, 2014 18:46
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Watching a deck run riot through a completely unprepared meta is just painful.
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Nov 2, 2014 18:50
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I Love You! posted:Yeah it wrecks decks that are just playing a guy and passing turn, which, you know, courserplay.standard It's like painfully bad vs Abzan and Jeskai
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Nov 2, 2014 18:51
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Sampatrick posted:It's so good versus anything with no removal It just got steamrolled by a deck with no removal.
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Nov 2, 2014 18:51
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My lgs has ascendancy at 3 bucks and I need 3. I have everything else for this goofy deck but a few commons. 
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Nov 2, 2014 18:51
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Sampatrick posted:It's like painfully bad vs Abzan and Jeskai we saw it beat vidi's jeskai aggro in round 6, so i'm not sure it folds to removal
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Nov 2, 2014 18:52
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Sickening posted:My lgs has ascendancy at 3 bucks and I need 3. I have everything else for this goofy deck but a few commons. Don't expect to draw like this guy is...
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Nov 2, 2014 18:54
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mcmagic posted:Don't expect to draw like this guy is... How about you lighten up you loving killjoy.
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Nov 2, 2014 18:56
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This is like when Cifka swept the PT with eggs.
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Nov 2, 2014 18:57
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The combo deck is fun-looking but it is no match for Milquetoast Midrange.
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Nov 2, 2014 19:04
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Mercury Crusader posted:The combo deck is fun-looking but it is no match for Milquetoast Midrange. midrange is no match for a one drop with firebreathing  and mana screw
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Nov 2, 2014 19:12
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A big flaming stink posted:we saw it beat vidi's jeskai aggro in round 6, so i'm not sure it folds to removal It doesn't fold to it per se, it just makes it much worse.
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Nov 2, 2014 19:14
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Chasm Skulker has hit the playmat of the scgfinals and I can't wait to see how Ivan is going to break it.
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Nov 2, 2014 19:17
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Nov 2, 2014 19:35
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That's not supreme verdict motherfucker!
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Nov 2, 2014 19:35
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Ivan missing triggers because he just doesn't give a poo poo, he's was going to win either way.
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Nov 2, 2014 19:35
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Has a list for this Jeskai deck come out yet?
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Nov 2, 2014 19:36
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C-Euro posted:Has a list for this Jeskai deck come out yet? Yes. Edit: seriously, this deck costs $20 to put together if you have the land. Hate on it at your local FNM, because it's showing up there.
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Nov 2, 2014 19:38
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Boxman posted:Yes. Not sure what the hate's all about. This deck is awesome and hilarious. Break the meta (it's not going to break the meta, abzan will just bring more hate)!
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Nov 2, 2014 19:41
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Thisuck posted:Not sure what the hate's all about. This deck is awesome and hilarious. Break the meta (it's not going to break the meta, abzan will just bring more hate)! Oh, yeah, I don't mean dislike it, I mean bring sideboard hate if you're not running it. I run Abzan and am toying with putting it together because it's cheap and looks fun. So, what are your sideboard outs? Spirit of the labyrinth, enchantment removal, drown in sorrow?
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Nov 2, 2014 19:52
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A new deck showing up and completely wrecking the tournament... 
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Nov 2, 2014 19:59
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Boxman posted:Oh, yeah, I don't mean dislike it, I mean bring sideboard hate if you're not running it. I run Abzan and am toying with putting it together because it's cheap and looks fun. Oh I didn't mean you were hating it, I thought you were pointing at some of the other comments, haha. I hope more people run this, since the only thing really pricey about this deck are the lands, and you can sorta fudge them with basics, maybe drop the jeskai charms and add a bit more lands. Edit: Jeskai asc should be called the Space Jam deck, just look at those guys on the card! Thisuck fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Nov 2, 2014 |
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Boxman posted:Oh, yeah, I don't mean dislike it, I mean bring sideboard hate if you're not running it. what are you boarding against this?
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Tim Raines IRL posted:what are you boarding against this? Any kind of enchantment, creature hate? As long as you know it's the combo, it's pretty easy to stop it. The main card is Jeskai asc, since it allows him not only to combo off but just beat you down with a bunch of large creatures and cycle thru his deck. Hell main deck thoughtseize is good enough to stop it, but Justin Porchas just got land rnged down.
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Nov 2, 2014 21:07
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Just watched the SCG Open final, I'm starting to get very concerned about the standard format, Jeskai Ascendancy just looks far too powerful and easy to protect.
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Nov 2, 2014 21:38
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An incredibly similar list at the hands of a good pilot in Glen Jones went 1-2 drop. Ivan played great, came into an unprepared meta, and had some sick top decks. Let's see a few more dominant results in a prepared meta before we start discussing how problematic a deck is.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Just watched the SCG Open final, I'm starting to get very concerned about the standard format, Jeskai Ascendancy just looks far too powerful and easy to protect. In a format where Thoughtseize is A Thing That Exists a fragile combo deck will most likely not be able to dominate.
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