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Leo Showers posted:Maarek Stele has the best art in the entire game You're wrong, nerd  Eaden Vrill. Too bad he's an awful card
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Strobe posted:Inb4 Tie Advanced upgrade that costs the missile slot and adds an attack die for 2 points. I seriously hope they do a TIE Avenger title for the Advanced that's just +1 attack for 4-5 points, in a S&V-style box set with at least one TIE Avenger model. Just having 3att would be enough to make Maarek Stele worth using, and we're due an actual Avenger sculpt for the game. Come on FFG, make my dreams come true. 
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alg posted:You're wrong, nerd
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Tekopo posted:I've seen him work almost in a list that had a ton of flechettes and hobbie with r3-a2. The person I flew against could get a pretty consistent 3 dice with him. Until he was left by himself that is. I think vrills going to make a pretty strong case as a Dash wingman. Hes going to be a very good choice in a meta thats about to be filled with PTL dashs.
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alg posted:You're wrong, nerd Even the the art for the Delta SQ. Pilot is better than this, and it's got bizarro bent wing. Disclosure: I like the Onyx SQ. Pilot art because I think it's pretty retro looking. Retro 90's Star Wars art looks rad and I'm sorry if you can't appreciate it.
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I'm a big fan of Lando flying out of an explosion, myself.
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Leo Showers posted:Even the the art for the Delta SQ. Pilot is better than this, and it's got bizarro bent wing.  the current trend of gritty brown sci-fi art is really bland IMO. I hope Paul wins the world champ next weekend cuz it'll be fun to see the tactics he taught me on camera. Really obvious openings when he tells it but I would've never figured it out myself.
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Streaming info for WC: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=5170
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Rules question. If I give Nera Dantels Deadeye, does that mean she can shoot torpedos at anyone in range regardless of firing arc, without the need of a target lock?
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Holy moly @ S&V. http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=5171     
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Torkil Mux owns
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The anti-Roark. Also, unless the text in my memory is wrong, totally useless if Roark is on the field. Palob Godalhi is a loving boss, though. Blaster turret that poo poo, TL, snag a focus from somebody who got to close. Rinse, repeat. EDIT: PTL for Blaster turret with focus+TL every turn.
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SV Kath with Outmaneuver can throw 5 dice at range 1 using the aux firing arc, yeah?
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Don't think so. When a card says "firing arc" it explicitly means your front firing arc, or else Falcons would never use anything else ever.
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Strobe posted:Don't think so. When a card says "firing arc" it explicitly means your front firing arc, or else Falcons would never use anything else ever. The YT-1300 has a single firing arc and a turret primary weapon which can ignore the firing arc. The Firespray has primary and auxiliary firing arcs. Both are firing arcs for all purposes, though secondary weapons must use the primary firing arc unless they say otherwise.
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After reading his question again: if that were true, any Firespray would already be able to throw 5 dice at range 1 with outmaneuver. Kath would throw 6. That said, I'm pretty drat sure Outmaneuver is front firing arc only. EDIT: I'm also pretty drat wrong, apparently. FAQ supports it.
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Outmaneuver reduces enemy agility dice by 1. if certain conditions are met:  Per the FAQ, the auxiliary firing arc on a Firespray is a firing arc.
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CelestialScribe posted:4. I've read a lot about the rules but not a lot about actually setting up a game. Is there anywhere I can read about this? e.g. Constructing a side, how to calculate points by using cards most efficiently, etc. Figured this might be good for the OP: Maneuvers 101 Maneuvers 201 Turn Zero: Placing asteroids Turn Zero: Placing ships Turn Zero: Battle planning Turn Zero: Squad building
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Yeah wow, those Scum HWK-290s are loving baller. What's going to work against these guys, TIE Fighter swarm perhaps?
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Leo Showers posted:Yeah wow, those Scum HWK-290s are loving baller. Heavy Laser Cannons
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I guess a Defender with a HLC would be pretty good, although those HWK's are pretty reasonably priced.
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Anything that does crits well. One shield is still a big hurdle to get past for a slow ship like that.
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Im glad we're getting more generic pilots with EPTs again
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I'm so glad I've preordered Most Wanted. 
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Ran an interesting build tonight. Han + Luke + 3po + millennium falcon (57) Nera Dantels + deadeye + bwing/e2 + recon specialist + adv proton torpedoes + adv proton torpedoes (43) The Han is pretty straightforward. But it allowed me to dump the rest of the points into Nera. If you remember, adv proton torpedoes allows you to turn up to three blank results into eyeballs. So Nera moves. Nera takes a focus. RS immediately gives Nera a second focus. Nera targets any ship around her(?) with the 360 secondary arc skill Deadeye to spend a focus instead of a TL Spend the second focus to modify up to 3 blank dice of the 5 you roll with adv proton torpedoes. I flew Nera straight for my roommate's mini swarm and caused all kinds of damage. Firing at anyone you want instantly with 5 dice and with plenty of modifiers is ridiculous. But yeah it's a pretty expensive bwing. Also with adv proton torpedoes being range 1 only I knew I would never hit his Echo so I ended up one-shotting both his howelrunner and his black squadron pilot without taking a single point of damage. Irom fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Yeah but really if you face Defenders with HLC or even Interceptors it'll be fairly hard for you to make those 43 points back, even with your fancy B-Wing/E2 and 360 Adv Torps. I think the best part of the list is that Han is paired with C3PO, which is a pretty good combo.
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Nera doesn't have a 360° secondary arc; she gets to ignore her firing arc when using torpedoes. We just went over the difference.
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Wanna try this  Major Rhymer (26) Push the Limit (3) Advanced Proton Torpedoes (6) Advanced Proton Torpedoes (6) Omicron Group Pilot (21) Advanced Sensors (3) Heavy Laser Cannon (7) Engine Upgrade (4) Captain Jonus (22) Flechette Torpedoes (2) Total: 100 I call it the 'please god don't have anyone end up behind me' build (I realise it isn't a competitive build).
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Poopy Palpy posted:Nera doesn't have a 360° secondary arc; she gets to ignore her firing arc when using torpedoes. We just went over the difference. to be clear, you're saying torpedos can be fired in 360, just not cannons, right?
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Irom posted:to be clear, you're saying torpedos can be fired in 360, just not cannons, right?  She can only fire torpedoes outside her primary arc. That's it.
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Irom posted:to be clear, you're saying torpedos can be fired in 360, just not cannons, right? The firing arc is the green/red/yellow (depending on faction) wedge printed on the base. Every ship (except the Firespray) has a single ~80° firing arc. The Firespray very explicitly has two firing arcs (one of which is auxiliary). Unless your primary weapon is a turret (which is e.g. the case for the YT-1300), you can only fire your primary weapon inside your firing arc(s). If you have a turret, you are explicitly allowed to fire your primary outside of your printed firing arc, but you still have a firing arc (this is important for e.g. the Outmanoeuvre EPT). Secondary weapons, whether they are missiles or torpedos or cannons, cannot be fired outside of the primary firing arc. These are the core rules for the game, but they can be superseded or modified by printed abilities. In Nera Daniels' case, her ability allows her to ignore her firing arc when firing torpedoes (and only torpedoes). She does not have a 360° firing arc, and she cannot ignore her firing arc when firing anything other than torpedoes.
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alg posted:
because it says "you can," I think targets both in and out of her firing arc are valid. So it is 360.
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Irom posted:because it says "you can," I think targets both in and out of her firing arc are valid. So it is 360. Yes, but it's not a 360° firing arc, or a 360° secondary firing arc. It's a printed ability that allows her to ignore her firing arc when firing torpedoes. This matters specifically because there's stuff that has an effect based on your firing arc and what's in it. e; and obviously also because torpedoes are not the only kind of secondary. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Irom posted:because it says "you can," I think targets both in and out of her firing arc are valid. So it is 360. oh, i didn't realize that was what you were asking. yes she can fire torpedoes in her front arc.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Yes, but it's not a 360° firing arc, or a 360° secondary firing arc. It's a printed ability that allows her to ignore her firing arc when firing torpedoes. gotcha.
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Weeeeeeell I think it's pretty clear from the card text that Nera Dantels can fire torpedoes in any direction around her. Also I thought this was pretty well clarified seeing it came up in Wave 2, in reference to the interaction between "Backstabber" and the Falcon/Slave 1.
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Leo Showers posted:Weeeeeeell I think it's pretty clear from the card text that Nera Dantels can fire torpedoes in any direction around her. She can. Is anyone saying she can't?
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