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Lycus posted:I'll take the one Bethisode over all of Season 3's terrible, worthless Andrea scenes. It's also better than the Carl "sittin' on a rooftop eatin' puddin'" episode from last year. At least this provided an interesting new group of once-well-meaning-but-gone-off-the-deep end antagonists. Also I now kind of want cowardly doctor dude to join the group just so he and Eugene can form Awkward Goon Tag Team.
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I like Beth. v v
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tatopom posted:Crap I didn't even realise it was Carol who was wheeled in at the end. I thought it was a thin Gary Busey I would totally want Gary Busey, as Gary Busey, to join Rick's group. Codependent Poster posted:So it's another group for Rick's to go and massacre, because Daryl probably picked up the janitor. I hope the rest of this season is the crew just going from group to group wiping them all out somehow every time. That would be amazing. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 10:51
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Ragnarok the Red posted:It's also better than the Carl "sittin' on a rooftop eatin' puddin'" episode from last year. At least this provided an interesting new group of once-well-meaning-but-gone-off-the-deep end antagonists. Wasn't Carl's puddin episode also the Morgan episode? If so then you are wrong.
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Nov 3, 2014 12:14
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Nov 3, 2014 12:17
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Christ, this episode is poo poo. 15 minutes in and i've given up even watching it properly, i have it running in another window while i look at stuff on the internet. Might just do what i didn't with most of last season and skim through the episode to the parts where things actually happen. EDIT: Is this show ever going to be about anything other than "our heroes run into yet another semi-organised bunch of crazies in a place and have to kill them"? Seriously, the Governors place, Terminus, this hospital. It's all the same poo poo over and over. spudsbuckley fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 13:00
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lets have the gang stab walking zombies only for 9 seasons, gr8 idea
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Nov 3, 2014 13:54
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I thought this episode has been the least interesting this season, but still way better than some of the episodes of the past seasons. Killing yourself in the office of the person you hate knowing you'll return is pretty badass.
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Nov 3, 2014 13:57
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I actually kinda liked this one. It was a nice change of pace and showed a lot of character growth for Beth since they seem to want to transition her to more of an active role in the group.
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Nov 3, 2014 14:01
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lifts cats over head posted:I thought this episode has been the least interesting this season, but still way better than some of the episodes of the past seasons. Killing yourself in the office of the person you hate knowing you'll return is pretty badass. To be honest, the implications of why she committed suicide in that room escaped me (I was too busy paying attention to what Beth was looking at) but now that you mention it that's kind of awesome.
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Nov 3, 2014 14:23
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spudsbuckley posted:EDIT: Is this show ever going to be about anything other than "our heroes run into yet another semi-organised bunch of crazies in a place and have to kill them"? I kind of want to have an episode where the opposite happens: What if Rick's group found a place that was legitimately full of nice people that had a good setup, but those people decided that Rick's group was too risky/evil and turned them away. What would happen then? Bonus points if this is during a time when Rick's group is low on supplies and really needs the help.
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Nov 3, 2014 14:43
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I liked the episode. I'm all about exploring these various little enclaves and seeing how they are reacting to the apocalypse. It's got a flavor of WWZ (Novel, not movie) in that way. I can handle a little heavy-handed writing from time to time as long as the overall theme is compelling, which this was. Agreed with many posters above, this isn't an award-winning show for creative writing, just roll with it and have fun. The overall quality has greatly improved and they're on a great trajectory. It seems as if they're shedding the old ways of long drawn out crap and trying to stay too close to the comics. Touching here and there on them and just doing fun stories.
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Nov 3, 2014 14:54
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Hahaha why are people such raging retards about Beth singing? She's no Celine Dion but she has a decent enough voice, christ goons will complain about anything. It was a good ep.
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Suicide chick was Gaia from Almighty Johnsons Whoa, Papatuanuku is nobody’s flatmate! She is all-powerful! .jpeg)
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Nov 3, 2014 15:43
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The walking dead ACAB episode. I'm glad Carol showed up at the end since she will do what must be done.
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Nov 3, 2014 15:54
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Has anyone heard Maggie say anything about the fact her sister is missing? Like, even a throwaway comment? Her dad was beheaded in front of her and now her little sister is missing and she's just chillin' with Glen.
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Nov 3, 2014 16:08
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spudsbuckley posted:Christ, this episode is poo poo. Yeah, I was hoping the Hospital are full of good people, yet Beth / Rick and Co. fucks it up and gets them all killed.
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Nov 3, 2014 16:15
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Did I somehow miss any discussion about the fleet of black cars parked outside the hospital? Didn't that reveal that the story of how they "rescued" Beth was total bullshit?
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Nov 3, 2014 17:18
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pookerbug posted:Did I somehow miss any discussion about the fleet of black cars parked outside the hospital? That was a blink and you miss moment for this show - they tend to not be so subtle with things.
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Nov 3, 2014 17:23
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pookerbug posted:Did I somehow miss any discussion about the fleet of black cars parked outside the hospital?
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Nov 3, 2014 17:33
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Did they explain why they were out looking so far away from the city proper though? That seems a bit unrealistic/contrived. ... I said to myself about a zombie show.
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Nov 3, 2014 17:37
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When Beth is recounting what happened to her when she was separated from Daryl she mentions that she was fighting a walker and then blacked out, which implied to me that her "saviors" actually just knocked her out.
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Nov 3, 2014 17:40
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Well I thought Noah was awesome for a 16 year old or whatever. Not the best plan in the world but it worked for him! EDIT: I want Noah to replace Carl on the cast. Jay-V fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 17:40
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Can we have Rick & Co. at least one time see a new group of people (in any situation) and say "nope". New town? No thanks Guy stuck on a rock? gently caress him [insert new group]? Nope instead of  "I don't think we should trust them" BUT THERE'S SOME GOOD LEFT IN THIS WORLDeverybody almost dies / gets eaten / gets raped rinse and repeat
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Nov 3, 2014 17:45
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This episode left me with two questions. How is Beth risking a zombie outbreak in a comparatively safe refuge for a bunch of people not totally awful of her? When did "The Greater Good" turn into a clear tell for These People Are Evil?
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Nov 3, 2014 17:46
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Cingulate posted:This episode left me with two questions. I mean really if you think about it Rick's group is about the greater good too but they are our "heroes" that we root for, so it's okay. (Rape cop(s) aside of course).
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Nov 3, 2014 17:52
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Can we have Rick & Co. at least one time see a new group of people (in any situation) and say "nope". Everybody would just forget about it a few seasons later.
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Nov 3, 2014 17:52
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Can we have Rick & Co. at least one time see a new group of people (in any situation) and say "nope". Backpack dude
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Nov 3, 2014 17:53
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Jay-V posted:Well I thought Noah was awesome for a 16 year old or whatever. Not the best plan in the world but it worked for him! Yeah, Noah was a good character. Hopefully they'll work him in to the main cast. Maybe Daryl brought him back to Rick's group? There was a time gap between the escape and Carol being wheeled in.
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TraderStav posted:Backpack dude Also that one guy who was entirely surrounded by zombies on one side and Rick and Carl just watched.
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Kelly posted:I mean really if you think about it Rick's group is about the greater good too but they are our "heroes" that we root for, so it's okay. (Rape cop(s) aside of course). Carol is not for the Greater Good. Dawn believes she is part of a greater society, that there are other groups like hers, and the community of communities - society - is what it's worth being evil for. Carol doesn't believe in society. She believes in Family. As does Rick (that's also where Rick's conflict over Eugene is coming from). Carol cares for a very tight, limited, and nearly impenetrable circle. It's a club of murderers, but it's HER murderers, so she will let loose the zombie horde on Terminus to protect her Family without actually investigating what's truly going on there. This is a stereotypically right-wing way of thinking; the people on the other side of the fence are not my concern, which is why we can build a fence there. Oh look, there's a fence, the people on the other side are not my concern, and so on. But my question was mainly about the specific phrase, the Greater Good. Carol will also sacrifice others for the (narrow) group she fights for, but she's "badass", not evil. Dawn is obviously evil, right? Why do we know that? She believes in the Greater Good.
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Father Gabriel probably counts too, as he's not evil he just did something hosed up in the initial outbreak. Unless of course we find out later that he really is a murder raper as well!
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Cingulate posted:
This is my biggest problem with it. Nothing is perfect and if there are bad cops ideally that situation should be fixed, but this place is working and providing a safe stable environment for people to live. "Ohhhhh god they saved me and(barring rapist cops) want me to do light medical assisting work to contribute to the group, NAHHHH!!!" And Beth tried her best to destroy that for everyone. gently caress you Beth.
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:This is my biggest problem with it. Nothing is perfect and if there are bad cops ideally that situation should be fixed, but this place is working and providing a safe stable environment for people to live. "Ohhhhh god they saved me and(barring rapist cops) want me to do light medical assisting work to contribute to the group, NAHHHH!!!" And Beth tried her best to destroy that for everyone. gently caress you Beth. Hahaha seriously? Oh yeah aside from the fact that I'm going to be subjected to rape slavery for the rest of my life like that girl who tried to kill herself this group is clearly legit, it would be wrong of me to put any of these fine upstanding citizens in any danger in my attempt to escape from my inevitable sexual servitude.
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Mazzagatti2Hotty posted:Hahaha seriously? Oh yeah aside from the fact that I'm going to be subjected to rape slavery for the rest of my life like that girl who tried to kill herself this group is clearly legit, it would be wrong of me to put any of these fine upstanding citizens in any danger in my attempt to escape from my inevitable sexual servitude. It's just sex.
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Mazzagatti2Hotty posted:Hahaha seriously? Oh yeah aside from the fact that I'm going to be subjected to rape slavery for the rest of my life like that girl who tried to kill herself this group is clearly legit, it would be wrong of me to put any of these fine upstanding citizens in any danger in my attempt to escape from my inevitable sexual servitude. One thing the series keeps hammering in is that the zombie apocalypse is not good for the head. Dawn is clearly not as bad as the Terminus leader, or the Governor. Her worst feature seems to be tolerating Rape cop. Of course, tolerating Rape Cop is not a good thing, but the last dude literally ate a guy's leg in front of him. Dawn slapped Beth. That's not good, but if you think they deserve to be eaten by zombies for what they are, you ... probably deserve to be eaten by zombies yourself!!
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Actually of the three, Governor's group was probably the least sick in terms of how this group of people organized themselves and survive. I think the key theme that makes all these groups bad is that they all insist that you're with them or you're against them. Rick's group is OK with others coming and going (see Morgan in the beginning, Carol being "let go" but not killed, Abraham and crew coming in and then going on their own for a bit), but Governor/Dawn/Gareth definitely are not about that.
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Nov 3, 2014 18:35
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:It's just sex. You seem like a fine and well adjusted person.
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Jay-V posted:Actually of the three, Governor's group was probably the least sick in terms of how this group of people organized themselves and survive. I think the key theme that makes all these groups bad is that they all insist that you're with them or you're against them. Rick's group is OK with others coming and going (see Morgan in the beginning, Carol being "let go" but not killed, Abraham and crew coming in and then going on their own for a bit), but Governor/Dawn/Gareth definitely are not about that. (Which I should have caught myself, considering my avatar.)
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:It's just sex. What Cingulate posted:They're bad people, but the comparison group are a bunch of murderous CANNIBALS. They made it pretty clear that the rape was approved on an institutional scale, when suicide girl referred to "them" when she said that Dawn could control them but chose not too. Then later on Dawn basically admitted that the weak members of the group existed only to keep the strong members happy, so she was going to turn a blind eye to all the raping in exchange for maintaining her own power. It's obvious it's far more of a problem than just "a bad cop." But my bad, you're right that the baseline for when it's ok to kill in self-defense has been set at "are my captors worse than literal cannibals?" Beth is truly the real monster here.
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