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mewse posted:You might be a sexual deviant if you consider rape cop shoving the lollipop in beth's mouth the only "awesomeness" of the episode 
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Who was Beth gonna murder with the needle before she saw Carol? Iirc they briefly mentioned that the stairwells are cleared out, so why didn't they try their daring escape through there instead of a corpse dump cellar? Sure the guy got groped through the elevator doors but I'm thinking whatever walkers are there are less of an issue than a super dark cellar that you don't know the layout for. There probably was some sorta fire escape somewhere too. I'm thinking the guy who was all fudged up probably didn't get too far after he got out the hospital backyard. Guessing it'll all tie into darryl/carol scenario somehow.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:28
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moths posted:What was subtle was that they were ALL rape cops. It was a predatory culture that exploited their "wards" in every way, and the alpha ward was willing to murder when his place at the top of the bottom was threatened. Cingulate fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 22:31
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Gortarius posted:Who was Beth gonna murder with the needle before she saw Carol? The doctor who pretended to be her friend and tricked her into murdering someone.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:39
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Lycus posted:The doctor who pretended to be her friend and tricked her into murdering someone. Beth clearly doesn't think things through
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Nov 3, 2014 22:41
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The head cop is pretty stupid to just put Beth back to work after a bit of a beatdown. Maybe re-evaluate your opinion on whether or not she's dangerous after she took out the rape cop and used his gun to score like 15 perfect head shots on her way out. She wasn't even kept away from potential weapons as she was about to murder the doctor.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:43
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And that's really the story that was told, but you had to actively watch and piece different character's dialogue together to figure out what was happening. If you thought he was the only rapist, like a lot of people seemed to, the episode loses a lot. But a lot of things get extra creepy in the actual context. Noah being more desirable than his father, and then less desirable than Beth, for example. The other cops ignored a wounded, hobbling-away slave to capture an armed girl. They're all in on it.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:44
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Dr. Abysmal posted:Maybe re-evaluate your opinion on whether or not she's dangerous after she took out the rape cop and used his gun to score like 15 perfect head shots on her way out.. Surely that should've earned Beth a badge. Lycus fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 22:44
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moths posted:And that's really the story that was told, but you had to actively watch and piece different character's dialogue together to figure out what was happening.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:48
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They told a good story quietly.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:49
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Also remember the other patient girl that slammed her door shut, and the girl they hunted down, recaptured, and then cut the arm off of to give back to her rapist(s). The greater good/keeping people alive is the lie the head cop tells herself/the slaves when they're really just the same as the gang that imprisoned the terminus people except with cleaner clothes.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:53
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Did anyone think about how if they notice a lollipop is missing they might also notice one of the slaves keeping a big bunch of supplies in his room or hidden somewhere? People who obsessively add up every bit of food eaten or handed out? Would it really have made you feel a lot better if he had a backpack on him when he fell down the elevator shaft? What I think is cooler is the girl who killed herself did so in Dawn's office. It's like the zombie version of a suicide bomber.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:53
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It was cool for those couple pages when we discussed the show.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:55
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moths posted:They told a good story quietly. I definitely liked two things: the scene where Beth is awestruck by a guy mopping the floor (also a nice mirror of that time when Rick woke up in a hospital), and Walking Dead's take on a suicide bomb*. Also: I felt the backlash for criticism of this episode was strangely personal. If you didn't like it, it was because you're a goony goon who only likes flashy action and can't appreciate deep nuanced story telling. I don't think that's necessary. *: e:f,b again
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Nov 3, 2014 22:57
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They are just trying to work up how great and nice the next home they find is. Please its been like 2 years since all the zombies started how the gently caress do they actually thing everything is gonna just go back to normal when they go on slave runs.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:11
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It will be interesting to see if Carol assesses the situation fairly quickly and reverts to acting as 'old' Carol-- using her weak, abused persona until she finds the right moment to be her new self again.
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Svanja posted:It will be interesting to see if Carol assesses the situation fairly quickly and reverts to acting as 'old' Carol-- using her weak, abused persona until she finds the right moment to be her new self again. I want it to just smash cut to her and Beth just walking out of the hospital. We all know what will have happened.
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Nov 4, 2014 00:13
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mewse posted:You might be a sexual deviant if you consider rape cop shoving the lollipop in beth's mouth the only "awesomeness" of the episode Dr. Tim Whatley posted:It's just sex.
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Nov 4, 2014 00:14
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On the one hand I wish they'd leaned on the rape cop angle a little less hard. There are plenty of other reasons to want to break out, the entire setup is pretty terrible and they actually did a good job of dropping hints and building it up. On the other hand I bet that if they'd left that out a whole lot of viewers would have looked at the arrangement and thought 'yeah that seems totally reasonable'.
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Nov 4, 2014 00:17
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Nov 4, 2014 00:59
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This probably seems like a minor nitpick but skulls seem too easy to stab through in this show. I'm sure stabbing a year-old rotting zombie corpse through the skull is pretty easy, but when you've got a fresh corpse it shouldn't be that easy to stab through the side of a quarter inch of one of the hardest bones in your body. Rick's group and rape cop group both do it. In a medical setting I feel like it would be much easier to go through the eye socket with a lobotomy-type tool, or through the back where there's an opening between the spine to destroy the brain. I've thought about this a lot.
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Nov 4, 2014 01:30
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Trust me you're not the only one. And don't get me started on how many heads could be cut off with the stupid sword before its broken. Oh god I just went full goon.
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Nov 4, 2014 01:39
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I don't know. I enjoyed the ep. As someone mentioned or maybe alluded to, the story is not about zombies, it's about humanity left to it's own devices WROL. That by very defn is going to be about the clashing of various groups with opposing motivations/needs. It's kind of BSG and space, the zombies are just a backdrop to a character driven story. We already saw from the governor saga that having the same antagonist for like 2 seasons is boring as gently caress. I personally think the pacing of this season has been nice, especially given poo poo like the farm. Anyway, I think the show title is more descriptive of the living characters than the actual zombies.
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Sorry if it looked like I was trying to lecture or singling you out Cingulate; You mentioned points that went to what I wanted to discuss so I quoted you but mostly I'm just talking about the show. This season has been much more even with back-story and interesting secondary characters. If a show is going to last, it's going to need to grow - and this season has been much more "for adults" than previous ones. A lot of stories fall apart with even a little bit of scrutiny, but a good one rewards analysis. This doesn't mean you can't have fun watching something stupid - but there's a reason people still love Twin Peaks 25 years later, while you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who still gives a gently caress about Lost.
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Nov 4, 2014 01:51
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imperialparadox posted:I kind of want to have an episode where the opposite happens: If they get to D.C., I bet this will literally happen.
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Nov 4, 2014 02:06
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All the abuse that female cop is giving Beth, gonna be a really big pay off when Carol shivs her in the throat. Might be a better pay off then Rick machete murdering Garth.
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Nov 4, 2014 02:14
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Lycus posted:The doctor who pretended to be her friend and tricked her into murdering someone. Who also had apparently claimed Beth as his .
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Nov 4, 2014 02:27
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Not many giffable moments this episode. Episode sucked, didn't have Eugene in it. 
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Nov 4, 2014 02:28
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That's what happens when people get into air battles. Sometimes they connect. RIP Rape Cop you were bad at air battling
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GrAviTy84 posted:I don't know. I enjoyed the ep. As someone mentioned or maybe alluded to, the story is not about zombies, it's about humanity left to it's own devices WROL. That by very defn is going to be about the clashing of various groups with opposing motivations/needs. It's kind of BSG and space, the zombies are just a backdrop to a character driven story. We already saw from the governor saga that having the same antagonist for like 2 seasons is boring as gently caress. I personally think the pacing of this season has been nice, especially given poo poo like the farm. Anyway, I think the show title is more descriptive of the living characters than the actual zombies. Yeah the show has been doing that since day one. Problem is you can only visit that well so many times before it becomes stale. There's no direction here - it's just a series of bad-guy of the week episodes. Harald fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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SaltLick posted:That's what happens when people get into air battles. Sometimes they connect. The final season twist is, KP ended up having the cure for the disease all along, he just withheld that poo poo from dumb mother fuckers like everyone that isn't him.
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Nov 4, 2014 02:50
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RBA Starblade posted:I want it to just smash cut to her and Beth just walking out of the hospital. We all know what will have happened. I like to imagine a Bad Boys-style ending with the two of them all sweaty with a few scrapes walking toward the camera completely unphased by the exploding hospital behind them.
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RBA Starblade posted:I want it to just smash cut to her and Beth just walking out of the hospital. We all know what will have happened. I was expecting/hoping for a knowing wink out of Carol at the end of the episode.
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Nov 4, 2014 04:06
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moist turtleneck posted:Not many giffable moments this episode. Episode sucked, didn't have Eugene in it. Please tell me there is a gif of Eugene running. Because I love it.
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Nov 4, 2014 04:31
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I liked this episode more than the Terminus ones and this thread is still really bad. We really do need "maybe I should rewatch" as the thread title again but the current one sums it up pretty well too.
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Nov 4, 2014 04:46
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Dirk Squarejaw posted:I like to imagine a Bad Boys-style ending with the two of them all sweaty with a few scrapes walking toward the camera completely unphased by the exploding hospital behind them. They somehow lure all zombies on the continent to Atlanta. Then there is that scene from Terminator 2 with zombie Sarah Conner banging on the gate where a bunch of zombie kids are. Then fire. Holy poo poo I would pay so much for that scene.
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Nov 4, 2014 04:51
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It's strange to me that Carol is a badass warrior princess, but here we are. Didn't see that coming from S1 Carol, tell you that.
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Svanja posted:Please tell me there is a gif of Eugene running. Because I love it. Eugene is the best moist turtleneck posted:The savior of the universe
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Surlaw posted:I liked this episode more than the Terminus ones and this thread is still really bad. We really do need "maybe I should rewatch" as the thread title again but the current one sums it up pretty well too. The Terminus villains were more interesting to me than the Hospital of Rape and Unpaid Debts. They were intelligent and tenacious and seemed to represent what Rick's group would be if they completely discarded their moral compasses. By fighting to eat, they had clearer motivations than the governor, daryl's brother, or queen cop.
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I'm pretty sure Merle was the best.
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