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It might be a technical issue. They had even enabled the videos earlier, I checked when I got home from work and was able to watch stuff without VPN. That's been reversed now.
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Nov 3, 2014 21:33
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The highest order of bullshit.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:33
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Boo, i hope its purely technical and not sky thowing a last minute thing at WWE which will neuter the network in the UK if its ever launched. (it won't its the new vade hansen)
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Nov 3, 2014 22:35
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:I wonder if Sky pitched a fit or threw money at them. I'm wondering if the Nov 3rd date was a bluff to get Sky back to the table?
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Nov 3, 2014 22:39
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If it was technical problems they would blame technical problems and say they're working on getting it up ASAP. This is a last minute pull in the hopes of getting a more lucrative deal from presumably Sky. I guess naming the date that they'd roll the network out was a bargaining tactic and it worked. I can't even get mad any more, it's just funny how much they're loving this launch for anyone not tech-savvy enough to pay for a VPN.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:41
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Gaz-L posted:I'm wondering if the Nov 3rd date was a bluff to get Sky back to the table?
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Nov 3, 2014 22:45
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St Evan Echoes posted:It was literally working earlier this evening, I doubt they would have gone quite that far if it was just a bluff I'd accept that for any other company (except TNA), but WWE don't seem to realise that 'card subject to change' doesn't protect them from these kinds of moves. They may not owe anyone a refund, but it looks really, really bad. Once was iffy, twice is going to start costing them potential subscribers.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:48
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Sky probably realized they could be either in the deal and get some money, rather than the alternative of nothing.
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Nov 3, 2014 22:52
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Blasmeister posted:I can't even get mad any more, it's just funny how much they're loving this launch for anyone not tech-savvy enough to pay for a VPN. I think they are loving it for themselves as it will only turn people to streaming sites where you can watch all the WWE content for free.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:02
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Daniel Bryan posted:Sky probably realized they could be either in the deal and get some money, rather than the alternative of nothing. I don't understand how the Network wouldn't have been part of the negotiations for the new TV deal with Sky. I suppose maybe it was just 'sure, you can sell it on the internet', and then WWE changed their mind when Rogers ponied up the sackload of money in Canada. EDIT: VV This would be why I can believe WWE would go so far as to turn off geoblocking and only announce going back on the date an hour beforehand.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:04
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Brought to you by the same people who created the XFL.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Sky probably realized they could be either in the deal and get some money, rather than the alternative of nothing.
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St Evan Echoes posted:I really hope we don't get a Sky Wrestlemans channel. gently caress that. I just want to be able to watch it on my TV instead of my PC without janitoring my router If they do it as a TV channel, I guarantee it's a Sky Sports branded one. Hope you wanna pay £30 a month to see Bo Dallas in HD.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:06
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Gaz-L posted:If they do it as a TV channel, I guarantee it's a Sky Sports branded one. Hope you wanna pay £30 a month to see Bo Dallas in HD. Not that I'm terribly bothered, but how legal is it to access the Network this way? I assume it's fine, since the onus tends to be on the content provider to put appropriate region blocks on their content.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:12
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projecthalaxy posted:Kevin Dunn hates and punishes all Britlords by denying them access to the wrestling. 
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Nov 3, 2014 23:12
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St Evan Echoes posted:Much as I love Bo I will stick to the VPN. Legally I think all you're doing is breaching the contract with WWE by not being a resident of a territory the service is officially available in. They can cancel your account, but I doubt you'd be in any real trouble.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:14
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Whatever Sky ends up offering them it's going to end up with a worse service for UK fans than it would were they to offer what the US is getting, so it's going to be a disappointment for the fans as well as yet another delay so WWE can make more money despite driving away business
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Nov 3, 2014 23:27
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Blasmeister posted:Whatever Sky ends up offering them it's going to end up with a worse service for UK fans than it would were they to offer what the US is getting, so it's going to be a disappointment for the fans as well as yet another delay so WWE can make more money despite driving away business I could maybe see them using the NowTV site as a portal for the US content, but at best we'll be getting the same service, at a higher price. At worst, it'll be a cut-down version of the service, that Sky will use as a selling point, so if you're with Virgin or someone else, you're hosed. Fake-edit: I assume their logic at an executive level is probably that the only people who will have been paying enough attention to care are big enough fans and internet-savvy enough that they're either using a VPN already, or could do so if they wanted, so they're not losing any buyers.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:31
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Seeing how desperate Vince gets trying to sell the network to people is going to be far more entertaining than anything they'll actually put on it
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Nov 3, 2014 23:34
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On that note, there's a very small part of me that thinks this UK thing is someone saying to Vince: "Hey, it would make way more sense to launch it in the UK when we shoot Raw in the UK!", about 30 minutes before the 8pm deadline.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:36
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It's even crazier when so much of the press around the UK launch mentions the free November for new subs deal. If they manage to miss that window and not make it up to customers by offering an equivalent deal later they're shooting themselves in the foot even further
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Nov 3, 2014 23:38
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Yeah, I didn't realize Raw was in the UK next week. http://www.wwe.com/events
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coconono posted:I am super confused what keeps loving up the UK launch. MONEY. Specifically, Rupert murdochs money.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:39
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Astro7x posted:Yeah, I didn't realize Raw was in the UK next week. And it may only be a house show, but I'm now super gutted to not be going to the Cardiff date. I've been at gigs in Wales when the crowd has gotten riled up before and it's hilarious/terrifying. Nobody knows how to utterly poo poo on something like drunk, pissy Welshmen.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:44
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pressedbunny posted:If the Network isn't up and compleetly intact without Sky bullshit before then, the chants are going to be incredible. This assumes that people give a poo poo about the network enough to become riled up about it.
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Nov 3, 2014 23:46
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pressedbunny posted:If the Network isn't up and compleetly intact without Sky bullshit before then, the chants are going to be incredible. The crowd will probably be tolerable, ASSUMING they take all mention of the Network out of promos, or keep them to pretapes. Obviously, considering this free November thing is their latest attempt to hook people, so they won't, but it'll be a really, really bad idea unless it's either up by then, or they announce it'll be available on Tuesday at the taping. Not expecting chants, but heavy boos for any mention of the product they're trying to sell is unlikely to look good.
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MassRafTer posted:This assumes that people give a poo poo about the network enough to become riled up about it.
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Observer posted:"The WWE Network launch officially in the U.K. was called off at the last minute due to ongoing negotiations." Sounds like Sky is ready to talk.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Sounds like Sky is ready to talk. Holy poo poo, it really was a bluff.
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OK, this isn't from Meltzer or one of the other more reputable sources, so take it with a pinch, but allegedly this was a last minute play by Sky saying WWE was breaching their new 9 figure deal. I want to write it off as SCOOPZ, but I'll buy that WWE were dumb enough not to demand a clause in that deal to cover the Network's eventual launch.
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Pet Rock Band posted:There's a Sheamus vs Rusev US Title Match on the Network after RAW tonight apparently? Not if you live in the UK. 
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Gaz-L posted:OK, this isn't from Meltzer or one of the other more reputable sources, so take it with a pinch, but allegedly this was a last minute play by Sky saying WWE was breaching their new 9 figure deal. Nine figures holy poo poo. I buy Sky getting pissed because Vince and Co wanted to play hardball. You can only say that you're going to launch something so many times before someone calls your bluff. They held their hand though which forced Sky to fold and "negotiate". Well played.
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It seems crazy to me that neither side would have planned for the network launch when they signed this deal in the first place - WWE to be sure launching the network wouldn't violate the contract, or Sky not having planned ahead and made a deal with the already announced network in mind. I'm a bit worried if Sky is pressuring WWE to close its current VPN loophole. To not only deny the US service to new subscribers but also people like me who've jumped through hoops for the privilege of paying WWE for its already availiable products.... ugh.
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Blasmeister posted:I'm a bit worried if Sky is pressuring WWE to close its current VPN loophole. To not only deny the US service to new subscribers but also people like me who've jumped through hoops for the privilege of paying WWE for its already availiable products.... ugh. Could someone more technically-inclined comment on how easy/difficult this is to do? I ask because Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, MTV and loads of other US streaming services are either unwilling or unable to prevent access through VPN's.
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