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Psybro
May 12, 2002
'The Master sexually assaulted The Doctor' is sort of definitely canon now, although that one scene in The End of Time Part Two already went most of the way there.

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Star Platinum
May 5, 2010
The phrase "girl Doctor" made me think of young Amelia Pond as the Doctor and I kinda really want to see it happen now.

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
Donna would've gotten to be the woman doctor if they hadn't decided that that was too interesting and wrote her out instead.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

This was spectacular. This season is just firing on all cylinders, both big reveals landed really well and all the setting work (a.k.a. elaborate misdirection) was really atmospheric too. Capaldi and Coleman are total dynamite together in like, every scene they share.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

It's kind of sad that Coleman is leaving after finally hitting her stride, because wow has she been amazing this season. On the other hand, it looks like unless they poo poo the bed in the final episode she'll be going out on a high.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Jerusalem posted:

It's kind of sad that Coleman is leaving after finally hitting her stride, because wow has she been amazing this season. On the other hand, it looks like unless they poo poo the bed in the final episode she'll be going out on a high.

Has there been any actual confirmation of that though? It was really just a rumor. I wouldn't be surprised if she left after the Christmas special (in fact I sort of think that she will), but I also wouldn't be shocked if she stuck it out one more year.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I have no idea, the only casting news I know about is what drips through into this thread. I had just assumed from the things said in other peoples posts that she'd confirmed she was leaving, if it was just a rumor then I guess I'll go into the episode with no clue where the character might end up, which is nice.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Jerusalem posted:

I have no idea, the only casting news I know about is what drips through into this thread. I had just assumed from the things said in other peoples posts that she'd confirmed she was leaving, if it was just a rumor then I guess I'll go into the episode with no clue where the character might end up, which is nice.

It's been the usual nonsense sources that started the rumor, and Capaldi and Coleman have actually actively refused to comment one way or another specifically so that everyone can speculate. :)

It would make sense that she's leaving and she probably is after Christmas, but we still have lots of room to guess!

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004


Had to get a copy for the wedding DJ, huh?

Solaris Knight
Apr 26, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT POWER RANGERS MYSTIC FORCE
I need that album in my life. :cawg:

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Bicyclops posted:

Had to get a copy for the wedding DJ, huh?

I managed to avoid having a wedding DJ. No Electric Slide, no Waddle Waddle, no Time Warp...

But...my stepdaughter (official now!) came up to me before the wedding when I was pacing back and forth and said "I know you're nervous. This is from me and Mom." And she gave me this and told me to keep it in my pocket the entire time.



The Eighth Doctor's sonic screwdriver.

And no, I didn't point it at the pastor.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

You struck gold there, buddy :)

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?

CobiWann posted:

I managed to avoid having a wedding DJ. No Electric Slide, no Waddle Waddle, no Time Warp...

But...my stepdaughter (official now!) came up to me before the wedding when I was pacing back and forth and said "I know you're nervous. This is from me and Mom." And she gave me this and told me to keep it in my pocket the entire time.



The Eighth Doctor's sonic screwdriver.

And no, I didn't point it at the pastor.

Was the idea that you'd develop amnesia and forget all your anxieties?

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Jerusalem posted:

You struck gold there, buddy :)

I really did. I really, really did.

DoctorWhat posted:

Was the idea that you'd develop amnesia and forget all your anxieties?

Pastor - "What kind of man would you like to be?"

Cobi - *holds up the communion cup* "Make me a husband."

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

You better look like John Hurt when you're a Grandpa!

Gordon Shumway
Jan 21, 2008

So I guess after thinking about it, the one question I still have is this: who the hell is Chris Addison supposed to be? Just another Time Lord that's in cahoots with the Master? Or some villain in particular? His name plate in his office said "SEB", but I was wondering the entire time if that was just an acronym for something.

Watch him turn out to be yet another version of the Master or something weird.

Gordon Shumway fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Nov 4, 2014

RodShaft
Jul 31, 2003
Like an evil horny Santa Claus.


Shugojin posted:

The world blowing up about it would be great

I could see this being a Davies episode. He was a fan of making sure every plot threatened the WHOLE WORLD!

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Gordon Shumway posted:

So I guess after thinking about it, the one question I still have is this: who the hell is Chris Addison supposed to be? Just another Time Lord that's in cahoots with the Master? Or some villain in particular? His name plate in his office said "SEB", but I was wondering the entire time if that was just an acronym for something.

Watch him turn out to be yet another version of the Master or something weird.

We simply don't know. He COULD be another Time Lord or even the Master's human companion (in another warped reflection of the Doctor/Companion dynamic ala Harold and Lucy Saxon) or some kind of Cyber-Control program or something. For my money, I'm betting he's simply an artificial construct of the Matrix Slice, an interactive simulation that manages the biodata/personalities being stored inside.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Gordon Shumway posted:

So I guess after thinking about it, the one question I still have is this: who the hell is Chris Addison supposed to be? Just another Time Lord that's in cahoots with the Master? Or some villain in particular? His name plate in his office said "SEB", but I was wondering the entire time if that was just an acronym for something.

Watch him turn out to be yet another version of the Master or something weird.

Superior Electronic Brain.

Scattering Evil Bones.

Series Extra Badguy.

The Fuzzy Hulk
Nov 22, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS


Bicyclops posted:

This would be particularly good if the TARDIS were disguised as a car or bus, so that as the Doctor gave his speech, we could hear the sound of screeching tires followed by the TARDIS's vanishing sound.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Jerusalem posted:

We simply don't know. He COULD be another Time Lord or even the Master's human companion (in another warped reflection of the Doctor/Companion dynamic ala Harold and Lucy Saxon) or some kind of Cyber-Control program or something. For my money, I'm betting he's simply an artificial construct of the Matrix Slice, an interactive simulation that manages the biodata/personalities being stored inside.

We've seen him and Missy in the same room, which is something I'm still curious about.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Doctor Spaceman posted:

We've seen him and Missy in the same room, which is something I'm still curious about.

It's a Matrix Slice, which means Time Lords are able to go in and out of it (as seen in The Deadly Assassin with the actual proper Matrix) so there's no reason the Master can't hook herself up when she wants to and go inside. Whether Seb is similarly plugged in or just a program remains to be seen.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

CobiWann posted:

no Time Warp...

Wait, this is a thing? I've been to three weddings the last year and a half, and each time they've done the same 5 dances. And now I find out I could have been doing the Time Warp instead? :argh:

Republican Vampire
Jun 2, 2007

Big Mean Jerk posted:

Wait, this is a thing? I've been to three weddings the last year and a half, and each time they've done the same 5 dances. And now I find out I could have been doing the Time Warp instead? :argh:

I think it's a generational thing. It seems like a pretty standard dance for older people.

My folks got married back in the mid eighties and for people their age and maybe a little younger, it was a pretty standard reception dance. No wedding I've been to has had it though.

Shugojin posted:

Girl Doctor would be a terrible idea because the writers would be unable to just roll with it. There would be terribly awkward jokes about it shoehorned into the worst of places.

The reason I don't really dig the idea of a female Doctor is that you've got two choices: Either you ignore the change entirely, or you do this with the half-assed jokes. You can't actually adequately address the Doctor's feelings about his body because, well, that kind of drama is not within the show's wheelhouse. It's not going to try to deal with dysphoria in a substantial way, nor should it. So either the awkward jokes and half-assed acknowledgment make light of gender dysphoria and kinda colour the whole arc without being able to commit to it, or you just ignore it, which is kind of the best case but still seems uncomfortable and awkward to me.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

There's no reason the Doctor couldn't grapple with his identity changing if that occurred. He does that with many of his other incarnations, after all, including this one.

Or you could just have him (her) not be bothered or interested or even understand why other people are shocked that he's changed, which would be very in keeping with the abstract character displayed by several of his selves. ("I always say they should put it in swimming pools." "Why?" etc).

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
So w/r/t to the toxxipation thread, this past episode and Flatline have made a couple direct references to the dominance games that the Doctor plays with others in order to make sure he gets to be in charge of every situation. Midnight was a really interesting episode because of the way his authority breaks down entirely, and I don't think that's a very common occurrence. Just something interesting I wanted to mention but couldn't really do in the Toxxipation thread.

McGann
May 19, 2003

Get up you son of a bitch! 'Cause Mickey loves you!

Cerv posted:

Don't think you are agreeing with me because I do say he is really at fault.
Although not 'intentionally' a child killer.
The Oscar Pistorius defence is weak one.

I fail to see how "oh poo poo I shot my girlfriend lol thought she was a robber" (not a loaded caricature at all) really covers a soldier in wartime firing at perceived enemy combatants, even when he does so in a reckless manner?

Either that or we're both intercommunicating, either way you had me double checking what I posted originally, and double checking the scene.

I gotta argue about random points in a dumb Danny Pink storyline because I keep checking the thread to hear Dark Eyes 3 news ...

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax
I was talking to a friend at work today who seems to think that Clara's a goner. I doubt it, but I do think she'll stop traveling with him soon and that Danny is dead for real. He asked how their grandchild could exist then so I countered that Clara must already be pregnant, she and Danny have already been loving. We stopped talking at that point and I mulled it over in my head, then went back awhile later and said that that might be why she leaves the Doctor, can't travel around having adventures while pregnant! At that point he immediately brought up the line about her hormones going wild, which I had entirely forgotten. I honestly think that thats how it will be, everything fits with only Danny's outcome being a potential surprise.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Cliff Racer posted:

I was talking to a friend at work today who seems to think that Clara's a goner. I doubt it, but I do think she'll stop traveling with him soon and that Danny is dead for real. He asked how their grandchild could exist then so I countered that Clara must already be pregnant, she and Danny have already been loving. We stopped talking at that point and I mulled it over in my head, then went back awhile later and said that that might be why she leaves the Doctor, can't travel around having adventures while pregnant! At that point he immediately brought up the line about her hormones going wild, which I had entirely forgotten. I honestly think that thats how it will be, everything fits with only Danny's outcome being a potential surprise.

I'm imagining a sitcom where Clara and a Cyberman raise a kid now.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

computer parts posted:

I'm imagining a sitcom where Clara and a Cyberman raise a kid now.

I'm now imagining a Tenth Planet style Cyberman refusing to go to a family wedding.

"There's no point to this, it is meanless, we should leave now!"

Linear Zoetrope
Nov 28, 2011

A hero must cook
I can't wait for the arc where CyberDanny may be cheating on Clara with that Cyberwoman from Torchwood.

(It was a whacky misunderstanding, of course)

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



TinTower posted:

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I've mentioned a forum I lurk at where the discuss/argue about the rumor of the missing episodes. The one thing they all seem in consensus is that EVERY single episode of Nu Who is the worst thing ever, isn't "real Who" and that EVERY episode of the classic series is the BEST THING EVER. Yes, even The Dominators.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Davros1 posted:

I've mentioned a forum I lurk at where the discuss/argue about the rumor of the missing episodes. The one thing they all seem in consensus is that EVERY single episode of Nu Who is the worst thing ever, isn't "real Who" and that EVERY episode of the classic series is the BEST THING EVER. Yes, even The Dominators.

Did anybody ever see the YouTube video by that OtaKing guy about how Russell T Davies had ruined Doctor Who because there was no death or "serious topics" and too much romance in the revival?

Rat Flavoured Rats
Oct 24, 2005
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-rat_flavoured_rats.gif"><br><font size=+2 color=#2266bc>I'm a little fairy girl<font size=+0> <b>^_^</b></font>
Is there anywhere or anyone who is able to summarise the current situation about the rumours regarding more missing episodes that isn't overly-speculative or conspiratorial and is actually easily digestible for someone who hasn't been following them for a long time? I've ducked into a few threads in other places about this and have found the arguments pretty much impossible to follow.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Either a) there aren't any more found, b) there have been more found, but aren't being released yet due to whatever reason.

There you go.

Gordon Shumway
Jan 21, 2008

Jerusalem posted:

We simply don't know. He COULD be another Time Lord or even the Master's human companion (in another warped reflection of the Doctor/Companion dynamic ala Harold and Lucy Saxon) or some kind of Cyber-Control program or something. For my money, I'm betting he's simply an artificial construct of the Matrix Slice, an interactive simulation that manages the biodata/personalities being stored inside.

Maybe he'll turn out to be the Rani, now that Moffat's gender swapping.

RodShaft
Jul 31, 2003
Like an evil horny Santa Claus.


I assumed the nethersphere was a physical place inside the building, and the building was the master's TARDIS. The slice thing was holding the consciousness in the dead's new bodies until they decide to be cybermen.
(That's what I get for watching with a 2 year old in the room)

The data slice being a virtual world and the building being just a building makes more sense. I'm glad because I want the Master to have a telephone TARDIS.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Oh yeah, I definitely expected them to emerge not into London, but from the Master's TARDIS, since I reasoned one place the Nethersphere could fit into easily would be a TARDIS.

Although that would have meant materializing into the Master's TARDIS with the Doctor's TARDIS and I have a recollection that that's established as being a Never Cross the Streams thing to do.

Edit: I looked this up and looks like I indeed need to watch Logopolis :v:

Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Nov 4, 2014

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CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Davros1 posted:

I've mentioned a forum I lurk at where the discuss/argue about the rumor of the missing episodes. The one thing they all seem in consensus is that EVERY single episode of Nu Who is the worst thing ever, isn't "real Who" and that EVERY episode of the classic series is the BEST THING EVER. Yes, even The Dominators.

I so want to find this forum, register, and make my first post "Paul McGann is canon."

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