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Solartide posted:Yeah, wanting to slam but not jumping off a high enough platform was disappointing, but on the flip side, fire element was relevant for once. Until you ran into the power suits. You can slam in normal gravity if you boost upwards immediately after jumping. You have to get used to the motion though, because you only have a split second to slam.
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FAUXTON posted:I disagree a bit there - I saw it as a little more like that scene in Breaking Bad where Walt finds out there's a piece missing from the broken plate, and starts freaking out when he realizes the guy he's holding prisoner in the basement took it and plans on killing him with it, except instead of "nonononono" it's anger directed squarely at Meriff for having to make him kill him. He didn't want to kill him, and had turned around to leave him there, but that rear end in a top hat had to take a few shots at Jack. I wouldn't say it's at the who lives/dies level of narcissism, but definitely anger at Meriff not following according to the plan, resulting in Jack having to gun him down. Based on Jack's behavior in this game I would classify him as a mentally ill sociopath. The vault hunters are just regular sociopaths who work for money.
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Nov 4, 2014 03:02
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Dyz posted:Based on Jack's behavior in this game I would classify him as a mentally ill sociopath. Well yeah, he's middle management in a huge corporation.
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Nov 4, 2014 04:05
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ThePhenomenalBaby posted:yea lilith acts really wack in this game She clearly has issues with the fact that her irresponsible, devil-may-care attitude is what got Roland and thousands of other people killed.
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I realized today that Athena's Aspis really, really likes rockets. My new strategy in battle is to bring up the shield, pull out a rocket launcher, the run up to people and fire at the ground between us. 
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deadly_pudding posted:I finally got to RK5 and found out what you all were super mad about If you exit the elevator and to the left and up there is a jump pad that shoots you all the way across the arena to another one which jumps you back. Both have O2 stations next to them, and all you do is jump back and forth and you're never really in any danger*. The sniper rifles that are a little lower damage but have high fire rates and big mags make short work of RK5 due to his big crit hitboxes. *sometimes you're in danger when RK5 plants himself in front of the jump pad while you're soaring towards it, just air maneuver out of the way.
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Knightmare posted:exit the elevator never do this
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I tried doing the 'never exit the elevator' but I could never actually shoot RK5 because every single add was always standing right outside the elevator doorway.
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I was playing earlier and some kind of glitch happened where my shield was stuck in recharge mode. Not "oh it's at 0 wait a few seconds" but "literally cannot die unless I receive my entire shield's capacity in damage from a single hit." It happened during the weird cave full of baby-hurling eridians (the one where you need to get the various elemental things for bongtrap or bluntwrap or whatever you want to call him) when all of a sudden I noticed I wasn't taking HP damage anymore and kept hearing this beeping noise which sounded curiously like the "shields fully charged" beep. Lasted through the boss fights (those were goddamn hilarious) and persisted after returning to Elpis.
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ThePhenomenalBaby posted:yea lilith acts really wack in this game Lilith was probably the most intolerable character in this game for me. She's like a living embodiment of "cool" as defined by a 14-year-old DeviantArt user.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Lilith was probably the most intolerable character in this game for me. She's like a living embodiment of "cool" as defined by a 14-year-old DeviantArt user. Would that mean Mordecai is the same deviant art user at like 21-22?
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FAUXTON posted:Would that mean Mordecai is the same deviant art user at like 21-22? Mordecai is at least self-aware enough of his predicament to be drunk all the time.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Lilith was probably the most intolerable character in this game for me. She's like a living embodiment of "cool" as defined by a 14-year-old DeviantArt user. Hate to beat a dying horse but the only way to make Lilith's characterization remotely comprehensible is imagining she's actually going to go full villain at some point. I can't get myself to actually believe it for a moment (it's probably the least self-aware part of the entire game), but hey this series looks real down on bad people that think they're good people.
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i think her reaction to jack is fair considering it at least contrasts how roland feels about the whole situation what with the genuine apology. you at least might get the sense one of the vault hunters appreciates what Jack is trying to do, at least before he goes fully psycho delusional. but its dealing with athena where the whole thing falls apart. interrogation if fine as the framing device but she takes hating her way too far and just becomes unreasonable. a lot of malice for no real reason especially since athena stop working for jack most likely right after all the stuff went down at the throne.
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ThePhenomenalBaby posted:i think her reaction to jack is fair considering it at least contrasts how roland feels about the whole situation what with the genuine apology. you at least might get the sense one of the vault hunters appreciates what Jack is trying to do, at least before he goes fully psycho delusional. Athena really doesn't come into the picture as being an effect on the situation. Nisha and Wilhelm could have brought him into power just the same, and Lilith could have killed Jack in the Vault, but didn't because she's just too drat cool. Roland, Angel, Bloodwing, possibly Tiny Tina's parents, the Crimson Raiders, everyone is dead because of Lilith. Lucky for her Brick is an idiot and Mordecai is drunk all the time.
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ThePhenomenalBaby posted:but its dealing with athena where the whole thing falls apart. interrogation if fine as the framing device but she takes hating her way too far and just becomes unreasonable. a lot of malice for no real reason especially since athena stop working for jack most likely right after all the stuff went down at the throne. That and Lilith is like 1000 times more guilty on the "not killing Jack when you had the chance" charge, since she walked right next to him to punch him.
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Father Wendigo posted:Also, did you know that you can get Moxxi's toy chest to respawn when you enter through Moxxi's Back Door (tee hee), and again whenever you start up a game that has you spawning at the back door entrance? Did you also know that you can grind her Laser to make purple lasers or sell it for a nice chunk of change? Please tell me how this sounds awesome. Also sorry I haven't been on to play, I got Boned.
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FAUXTON posted:I was playing earlier and some kind of glitch happened where my shield was stuck in recharge mode. Not "oh it's at 0 wait a few seconds" but "literally cannot die unless I receive my entire shield's capacity in damage from a single hit." Yeah, I've had this happen to me multiple times before, but I don't know exactly what causes it. It seems to only happen around Tycho's Ribs/Eleseer. I used it to farm the raidboss solo a couple of times.
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Man, Jack the Doppleganger looks like it'll be FUNNNN to play as. Go forth, expendable minions!
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I'm really curious to see how he reacts to the airlock scene. And the basketball speech of course.
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Now that I think about it, with the way the Narrative is set up, Tina could feasibly be a character.
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Dyz posted:The vault hunters are just regular sociopaths who work for money. Be fair. Some of them are psychopaths.
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mycot posted:That and Lilith is like 1000 times more guilty on the "not killing Jack when you had the chance" charge, since she walked right next to him to punch him. I don't really agree that Lilith could have killed Jack since Jack's Vault Hunter team was right there and Lilith hanging around any longer would have turned into a battle royale that she could only have lost.
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I think that Bunkers and Badasses in BL2 taught us that Lilith is a selfish, insecure child. She's literally a nerdy kid who grew up obsessed with being cool and having her secret clubhouse.
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The Lone Badger posted:I don't really agree that Lilith could have killed Jack since Jack's Vault Hunter team was right there and Lilith hanging around any longer would have turned into a battle royale that she could only have lost. Should've brought her Double Anarchies.
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Maybe Lilith becomes addicted to Eridium and has to be put down.
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FAUXTON posted:Maybe Lilith Fixed that for you. I mean, it's pretty obvious from Lilith's missions that she's addicted to the stuff, it just never has any consequences in the course of Borderlands 2.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I think that Bunkers and Badasses in BL2 taught us that Lilith is a selfish, insecure child. She's literally a nerdy kid who grew up obsessed with being cool and having her secret clubhouse. I really should play more of the BL2 DLC huh? FAUXTON posted:Maybe Lilith becomes addicted to Eridium and has to be put down. Alien Rope Burn posted:Fixed that for you. Nah, i think all the crazy she's done so far so far is good enough reason to cause some introspection. This being the borderlands universe, that introspection is delivered by medium of  EXPLOSIONS! BL3, Torgue takes up counciling to help Pandora's troubled residents with his unique brand of Explosion therapy! its a whole load of fireworks to cheer people up. 
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The Lone Badger posted:I don't really agree that Lilith could have killed Jack since Jack's Vault Hunter team was right there and Lilith hanging around any longer would have turned into a battle royale that she could only have lost. Funny then how she did have time to act cool, say "Sup", punch Jack, then sashay out like a badass. Maybe if she spent some more time being effective and less time trying to look cool, people around her wouldn't die.
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And thus you get to the truth of Lilith, all style, no substance.
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If "sup" isn't a cool enough word for you then you got problems
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Thyrork posted:And thus you get to the truth of Lilith, all style, no substance. She saved Sanctuary that one time, though that was a joint effort with Scooter and Roland putting in most of the work there too. You could even say their system was a failsafe in case Lilith tried any poo poo with the city.
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I think the trouble is that right now there's nobody who can jerk Lilith up short and make her take a look at herself. At least with Roland she had a friend and equal who could've sat her down and talked with her. Mordecai's a drunk and doesn't really care much about anything, Brick is an idiot who only cares about punching and awesomeness. Nobody else is really close with Lilith. I really hope in the next game there's someone who can address Lilith's behaviour and help bring about some character development. Ordering Athena's execution is understandable, considering she's still feeling raw over Roland's death, but Lilith really needs someone who can make her realise that was a wrong move. Heck, maybe come Borderlands 3 it'll be Athena filling that role, providing the voice of leadership and reason that the vault hunters and the Lance need, and that neither Lilith, Brick or Mordecai can provide.
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The Lone Badger posted:I don't really agree that Lilith could have killed Jack since Jack's Vault Hunter team was right there and Lilith hanging around any longer would have turned into a battle royale that she could only have lost. Well even if you ignore the "you sure had the time to give a one liner" problem, that still makes her more guilty than Athena...who logically would have been around the other Vault Hunters constantly.
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Lilith really just needs to be completely removed from the game with no explanation as to where she went, it'd be like 45% better instantly.
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Wyld Karde posted:Heck, maybe come Borderlands 3 it'll be Athena filling that role, providing the voice of leadership and reason that the vault hunters and the Lance need, and that neither Lilith, Brick or Mordecai can provide. I think it should be Maya honestly, she's probably the most sane person left on the whole drat planet. But it kinda feels like the BL2 vault hunters have been left by the wayside.  My last real hope to see anything else out of them is the Telltale game, which at least has Zer0 in it.
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Kerrrrrrr posted:I think it should be Maya honestly, she's probably the most sane person left on the whole drat planet. If there is no dialogue tree with Krieg it will be the greatest missed opportunity of all time.
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mycot posted:If there is no dialogue tree with Krieg it will be the greatest missed opportunity of all time. It could be a mini puzzle, trying to figure out what he is saying and what to say back to him. mycot posted:Well even if you ignore the "you sure had the time to give a one liner" problem, that still makes her more guilty than Athena...who logically would have been around the other Vault Hunters constantly. It's even arguable that punching Jack was a purely negative move. She could have NOT punched him. He still knew about the Warrior, and branding his face like that did seem to make him even crazier. He might have actually become more wise, given time with the relic, as Zapadon did. They show us no good outcome of punching him. Just another dumb thing she does to feel cool. Skandranon fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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