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Elyv posted:I would actually play more sealed if possible, draft is more fun if you're experienced imo but if you don't have a handle on what your deck needs when drafting, it can be frustrating. Sealed is better in that regard, but its easier to slot into a draft then a sealed game, imho, there just seem to be more of them. Outside of MTGO at least.
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Check this sweet combo: Sigarda, Host of Herons. City in a Bottle. Donate City in a Bottle. Play Desert. The game ends in a draw.
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Nov 4, 2014 16:34
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How are you playing Desert with City in a Bottle on the field?
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Nov 4, 2014 16:42
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Cernunnos posted:How are you playing Desert with City in a Bottle on the field? Clearly I'm getting it into play with a crop rotation. Ignore what I said before.
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Dr. Stab posted:Check this sweet combo: I think you mean: Play Brass Man. Equip Brass Man with Assault Suit. Play City in a Bottle. Fun for every colour.
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Nov 4, 2014 16:44
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Toshimo posted:I think you mean: I call this combo...  BRINGING PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST
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In both cases the controller of City in a Bottle loses to time on MODO I think. Un-resolvable trigger problems ala Mindslaver and Spirespine.
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Cernunnos posted:In both cases the controller of City in a Bottle loses to time on MODO I think. Un-resolvable trigger problems ala Mindslaver and Spirespine. I think it results in another lsv breaks MTGO moment. Edit: To clarify, there is nothing that stops the trigger from just triggering over and over again. The Spirespine issue was something else. Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > Traditional Games > Magic: The Gathering: Megathread: lsv: look what I did lsv: to the game lsv: for value
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Opening hand: Time Vault - Black Lotus - Dark Ritual - Underground Sea - Voltaic Key - Force of Will - Gush
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Nov 4, 2014 18:44
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Angry Grimace posted:Opening hand: Time Vault - Black Lotus - Dark Ritual - Underground Sea - Voltaic Key - Force of Will - Gush That's only acceptable if the opponent has double Mental Misstep for the key 
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Nov 4, 2014 18:52
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UberJew posted:That's only acceptable if the opponent has double Mental Misstep for the key They were playing Stax, so no.
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Nov 4, 2014 18:54
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C-Euro posted:My deep-cut theory is that M16 will be Modern Master 2. Just remember where you heard it first folks! I really hope so. I need a play set of gyofs and I don't want to pay dual land prices for those
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Nov 4, 2014 19:35
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Thisuck posted:I really hope so. I need a play set of gyofs and I don't want to pay dual land prices for those There's still the mystery format at the GPs later in the year. There's normally a supplemental set around then too, I think, and I don't recall hearing anything about it at all.
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Also, MTGO pricing is so weird. Toxic Deluge costs 35 tickets (tickets cost $1) online. The deck it comes in is $30 and still for sale; same for True-Name Nemesis.  Like in real life, there's obvious supply problems, but they just persistently sell the Commander decks on MTGO for retail.
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Nov 4, 2014 19:58
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Angry Grimace posted:Also, MTGO pricing is so weird. Toxic Deluge costs 35 tickets (tickets cost $1) online. The deck it comes in is $30 and still for sale; same for True-Name Nemesis.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:03
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Wadjamaloo posted:I could be wrong, but isn't that because tickets on the secondary market are worth 90-95 cents, so 35 tickets would be around 32 dollars. I think its more like 95 cents, isn't it? And still, TNN is like 39 tickets. Even with potential taxes and discounts its still more than the whole deck.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:06
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Thisuck posted:I really hope so. I need a play set of gyofs and I don't want to pay dual land prices for those They won't reprint goyf again for a long time. The chance to buy them for 100 bucks has passed.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:17
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Errant Gin Monks posted:They won't reprint goyf again for a long time. The chance to buy them for 100 bucks has passed. Whenever MM2 comes out, its going to have Goyf in it.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:18
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Errant Gin Monks posted:They won't reprint goyf again for a long time. The chance to buy them for 100 bucks has passed. You are going to feel so silly about this when they reprint it in MM2. There is no way they go "whew, the reprints really fixed that supply issue!" and not reprint it again.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:21
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jassi007 posted:You are going to feel so silly about this when they reprint it in MM2. There is no way they go "whew, the reprints really fixed that supply issue!" and not reprint it again. I will believe it when I see it. I hope they do, but I have no faith. I would love a few more goyfs, two play sets is better than one. Also they will never fix the supply issue unless they print it as a common and make 20 billion of them. If you have green in a modern or legacy deck chances are 90% you have a playset of goyfs in it.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:22
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Angry Grimace posted:Whenever MM2 comes out, its going to have Goyf in it. Even if it does it probably won't have much of an impact on the price...
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Nov 4, 2014 20:34
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Angry Grimace posted:There's still the mystery format at the GPs later in the year. There's normally a supplemental set around then too, I think, and I don't recall hearing anything about it at all. Wasn't it revealed that the mystery format was proxied Legacy Masters, or am I just daydreaming?
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Angry Grimace posted:Also, MTGO pricing is so weird. Toxic Deluge costs 35 tickets (tickets cost $1) online. The deck it comes in is $30 and still for sale; same for True-Name Nemesis. If you're infinite on MTGO both of those cards cost you $0 versus $30, this actually makes perfect sense within the context of MTGO. It's also why there was a minor shitstorm when, I can't even remember the set honestly, required you to buy your guild affiliation from the store. People who normally don't spend real cash on the program were being forced to for release and were PISSED.
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Death Bot posted:Wasn't it revealed that the mystery format was proxied Legacy Masters, or am I just daydreaming? Paper Vintage Masters was revealed as a draft format for the World Championships, there is no legacy Masters and its not going to be the unknown GP
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Nov 4, 2014 20:41
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Death Bot posted:Wasn't it revealed that the mystery format was proxied Legacy Masters, or am I just daydreaming? 100% dreaming. No sanctioned event will allow proxies. They recently announced a format change for worlds where they will have a live VMA draft, but it will not be proxies. Wizards will generate real VMA packs using modo, then take their vintage cards they own to supply the physical packs. This is probably what you are thinking of, but there will be no proxies in any official event ever. It sort of kills business for them when they say "you don't really need to buy the cards"
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Nov 4, 2014 20:42
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Errant Gin Monks posted:I will believe it when I see it. I hope they do, but I have no faith. I would love a few more goyfs, two play sets is better than one. I guess it depends on what you mean by fix supply. I'd snap buy goyfs under $75. If it gets there price down to anywhere near that I'm in. I don't expect $20 goyfs.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:45
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mcmagic posted:Even if it does it probably won't have much of an impact on the price... Wasn't the problem with MM1 that they didn't supply enough of it for long enough? If they had a ready supply of MM2 available for a long enough time it would be hard to believe it wouldn't affect the price, at least for a little while. Modern prices have started becoming much more reasonable with the reprints of expensive lands and cards like Thoughtseize. MM2 would sell like crazy right now since modern has become more accessible thanks to manabases getting reprints.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Wasn't the problem with MM1 that they didn't supply enough of it for long enough? If they had a ready supply of MM2 available for a long enough time it would be hard to believe it wouldn't affect the price, at least for a little while. Modern prices have started becoming much more reasonable with the reprints of expensive lands and cards like Thoughtseize. MM2 would sell like crazy right now since modern has become more accessible thanks to manabases getting reprints. Yeah but they aren't going to completely dilute the value of these cards by making MM2 with a huge print run.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:They won't reprint goyf again for a long time. The chance to buy them for 100 bucks has passed. jassi007 posted:I guess it depends on what you mean by fix supply. I'd snap buy goyfs under $75. If it gets there price down to anywhere near that I'm in. I don't expect $20 goyfs. I should have bought them during Lorwyn block when they were $50, and just played B/G elves instead of faeries. Now I have all these sub $200 vendillions and bitterblossoms doing nothing  *I'm actually playing UB faeries in modern and having semi moderate success with it*
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mcmagic posted:Yeah but they aren't going to completely dilute the value of these cards by making MM2 with a huge print run. I just hope they print enough that stores aren't jacking pack prices up above msrp due to scarcity.
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mcmagic posted:Yeah but they aren't going to completely dilute the value of these cards by making MM2 with a huge print run. I doubt that is the thing holding them back, though. Look at what they did with reprints in Conspiracy and now Tarkir.
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mcmagic posted:Yeah but they aren't going to completely dilute the value of these cards by making MM2 with a huge print run. How much does wizards care about that though? Onslaught fetches are now a quarter of what they cost 6 months ago, I'd wager the overall value "lost" of those 5 cards dropping is more than what would happen with goyf in that scenario.
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If they print a set at anything near a good-faith amount, it does significantly lower the price of the reprinted cards (relatively speaking) and it also doesn't cause the Magic world to collapse into anarchy. We've seen this.
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If there's anything Wizards learned from Modern Masters 1 (which caused the price of Goyf and Bob to increase in price) it's that they could stand to print way, WAY more MM2.
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It's not about the cost of individual cards that drives WOTC to be conservative but the entry cost of the format as a whole, if they ever make Modern cost as much as Standard it's going to have some complicated repercussions on organized play, they want to avoid that. So while they aren't going to say "Oh no we can't make X card that low" they are going to be slow and steady with reprints and aren't likely to make a massive set filled to the brim with value like Modern Masters and print it at a rate anywhere near regular sets.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:How much does wizards care about that though? Onslaught fetches are now a quarter of what they cost 6 months ago, I'd wager the overall value "lost" of those 5 cards dropping is more than what would happen with goyf in that scenario. Yeah, I agree with this. I mean, they put Thoughtseize in Standard.
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Angry Grimace posted:Yeah, I agree with this. I mean, they put Thoughtseize in Standard. I'm waiting on the day brainstorm returns to standard (probably will never happen though).
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Thisuck posted:I'm waiting on the day brainstorm returns to standard (probably will never happen though). God no gently caress that card. They should ban it in legacy because gently caress blue. If a card is restricted in vintage it should be straight banned in all other formats.
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Brainstorm isn't very good without reliable ways to shuffle your library.
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