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Haha, Summoning Gate 2 unlock is such a clusterfuck. Hurr durr I'm Cia I'm going to run into the enemy's element-protected main base five minutes into the stage. The rough part was getting enough KOs before she died or we killed the commander just keeping him away from her. Still got it, but I have no idea how you guys are doing some of this poo poo solo 
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W.T. Fits posted:It's even worse on the Master Quest map when the quiz has the "No Attack Items" rule so that you can't use the Boomerang to keep her stunned and out of the way. Yeah, that's the one. I was fine until the last fight, then it was Midna blocking everything and Lana jumping in front of my combos going "Hey, whatcha doing?  "
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Nov 4, 2014 05:10
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Locke Dunnegan posted:Haha, Summoning Gate 2 unlock is such a clusterfuck. Hurr durr I'm Cia I'm going to run into the enemy's element-protected main base five minutes into the stage. The rough part was getting enough KOs before she died or we killed the commander just keeping him away from her. Still got it, but I have no idea how you guys are doing some of this poo poo solo You can completely control when Cia advances in that stage. I forget the exact trigger but if you do things in the right order you can keep her in your base until you're ready. I don't have a co-op partner so I've completed every stage in the game solo without cheating. It's definitely doable! Though I wouldn't blame anyone for giving up on Zant's level 3 and cheesing it with a better character.
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Nov 4, 2014 05:12
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Regy Rusty posted:You can completely control when Cia advances in that stage. I forget the exact trigger but if you do things in the right order you can keep her in your base until you're ready. But high morale units absolutely SWAMP your main base and will kill her right off the bat unless you kill them off, which also seems to be the trigger. I assume there is a way, but it is one of those things that the game doesn't give you ANY info on so you just sorta flail around and hope for the best.
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Nov 4, 2014 05:18
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Cia doesn't rush the enemy base until you defeat one of the commanders. My route for that mission was to immediately head for the fire fairy, then defeat the red VIP, then defend the allied base for about five or seven minutes. Then I took out the red commander first (since the yellow base doesn't have a barrier), farmed up the remaining kills, and that was the end of that. And I did it with the staff, not the gate.
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Nov 4, 2014 05:21
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I'm going to have to give that one another go with the staff, because the book just ain't doing it for me.
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Nov 4, 2014 05:25
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Bear in mind that, with the staff, the BBBBY combo is your captain killer. Just be sure to dash-cancel after the first hit of the strong attack (before she jumps into the air with the leaf). It does good damage and juggles really effectively, and it's a keep clearer on top of that, and it has a lot of reach so it's relatively safe.
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Nov 4, 2014 05:27
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I'm starting to realize that when people say the Staff sucks it's because the Book is amazing and the Gate is the greatest thing in the world. I assumed that when someone said it was "bad" it was like a 2/10 on usefulness, but it's like a 9/10, the Book is 10/10, and the Gate is a billion/10. It's just not fair. Literally every combo with the Gate is stellar, I can kill all non-PC bosses in like two super-Gohmas or Argorok fireballs.
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Nov 4, 2014 06:04
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The gate is absolutely my favorite weapon in the game, I don't even bother with weakpoints. I just summon a monster, do the appropriate combo, and go to town. I like Lana's Guardian costume better than Cia's. 
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Nov 4, 2014 06:37
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they really need to spread some of the weapons around. It's a shame that the fire rod, epona, great fairy, and the gauntlets all have to compete for use on a single character.
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Nov 4, 2014 06:55
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Tengames posted:they really need to spread some of the weapons around. It's a shame that the fire rod, epona, great fairy, and the gauntlets all have to compete for use on a single character. Yeah, I'm really hoping the TP weapon is the spinner and that it's not on Link. And that it doesn't suck.
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Nov 4, 2014 07:02
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chumbler posted:Yeah, I'm really hoping the TP weapon is the spinner and that it's not on Link. It can capture one keep before it's rendered useless.
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What's the best way to take down the Imprisoned as Sheik on the map that leads to the level 1 gate?
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The_Frag_Man posted:What's the best way to take down the Imprisoned as Sheik on the map that leads to the level 1 gate? Always have special built up, use it to take out all the toes ASAP after the 6th pulse from the Imprisoned standing back up. Use the light song while waiting out those pulses to get more meter.
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Nov 4, 2014 09:09
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Does anyone have some pointers for the boss rush rewards map? I can't even cheese it as Sheik ffs 
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Nov 4, 2014 13:21
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I just got the gate. How does it work? Is there any way to control the summons that come from strong attack? Or are they just random, because I haven't found any pattern to it.
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Nov 4, 2014 13:21
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The strong attack is random. If you purposely summon the same creature after that then you get three of them for a more powerful attack. Or in Argorok's case, you jump on its back and fly around burning things.
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Nov 4, 2014 14:14
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THE loving MOON posted:The gate is absolutely my favorite weapon in the game, I don't even bother with weakpoints. I just summon a monster, do the appropriate combo, and go to town. That has been my strategy but it hasn't worked out well for me in her level 3 so far.
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Bicyclops posted:That has been my strategy but it hasn't worked out well for me in her level 3 so far. What's your Lana's level? It took me a dew tries to get it down. I started by killing the commander to the east by standing back and throwing random summons at him, than I looped around top and hit Ghirahim. All I did for him was use my special a couple times and dropped a few monster summons until his group was weakened, I didn't waste time actually killing him. Then I looped around southwest and hit killed Impa around the time she made her way into the fairy keep. After that I charged over to the allied base to play defense. That's where you'll get most of your kills when they bumrush the base from the southwest. After I had poo poo in hand there, I went down and slapped Link around for a little bit. It took me a few tries, my first couple tries had me at like 15:xx.  I don't know if you've nailed the timing for Argorok yet, but if you manage to get it you can take out any one objective in a single pass.
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Nov 4, 2014 16:57
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I dunno why, but I'm reminded that so damm many were all 'Oh, this is easy, this looks easy, where's the challenge?'
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THE loving MOON posted:What's your Lana's level? It took me a dew tries to get it down. I think she's at about 52. Somewhere between 47 and 55, anyway. Is there timing on the first strong attack? It thought it was just randomized. I can get his combo whenever he shows up, but it seems to be rarely.
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Nov 4, 2014 18:15
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They all show up about equally. Remember you don't have to use the full combo of whatever shows up. If something not useful for your current situation comes out you can just use strong attack again to get something else.
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Nov 4, 2014 18:20
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Regy Rusty posted:They all show up about equally. Remember you don't have to use the full combo of whatever shows up. If something not useful for your current situation comes out you can just use strong attack again to get something else. That's normally what I do for Gohma, whose combo I always seem to flub, and for Dodongo, whose combo seems to leave me open for attack for too long.
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Nov 4, 2014 18:32
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Bicyclops posted:That's normally what I do for Gohma, whose combo I always seem to flub, and for Dodongo, whose combo seems to leave me open for attack for too long. Get better at Gohma since it is the next best after Argorok.
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Bloodly posted:I dunno why, but I'm reminded that so damm many were all 'Oh, this is easy, this looks easy, where's the challenge?' One of my buddies was over the other day asking me if I played this and I said yeah, and I like it but it's difficult sometimes. Then he says, completely sincerely, "It's not hard, just don't ever play Adventure mode".
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This game is awesome. I just unlocked Ghirahim and he's really cool and fun but feels sorta weak, any tips? I really enjoy Impa's spear and Zelda's baton, plus the gauntlets. Also Lana is a lovely character story and design wise (but her guardian outfits cool) which makes me feel bad that her weapons are all a lot of fun 
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Nov 4, 2014 18:41
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The only one that I regularly reroll is Dodongo, and even then I'll use it just for clearing a keep. Manhandala stalks are great too, even just the strong attack non-combo one. The poison field slows them down enough for me to drop another summon on them.
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Manhandla is great because it gives you some time to get the next combo in without getting smacked. I'm happy to break out the Dodongo trio as long as I'm not swamped by officers, but I feel like I have to avoid it then. I guess I'll have to practice more with Gohma (somehow I always either do Manhandla or Argorak instead).
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Octolady posted:This game is awesome. I just unlocked Ghirahim and he's really cool and fun but feels sorta weak, any tips? I really enjoy Impa's spear and Zelda's baton, plus the gauntlets. Ghirahim's main gimmick is marking his target with his strong attack, which makes most of his strong combo enders deal more damage to the marked enemy and anything near it. Without that his damage is somewhat middling. Also note that his different combos are pretty specialized and some of them you don't want to finish unless you want to style. Overall he's a really well rounded character with no major flaws, and is probably the best designed in the game.
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Jibo posted:One of my buddies was over the other day asking me if I played this and I said yeah, and I like it but it's difficult sometimes. Then he says, completely sincerely, "It's not hard, just don't ever play Adventure mode". Yeah I guess if you only play the first 10% of the game it's not that hard. Adventure is the best part of this game!
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I never knew Ghirahim's strong attack homing knives could be canceled to the point of making them rapid fire. I rarely used them since they weren't that great until now. It's pretty crazy being able to throw twenty volley's of them in one tether.
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Marogareh posted:The last one took me a while to find since it's right in the middle of the regular adventure map on D8. Thanks, that did for me. Just so everyone knows, this applies to the 1200 KO skutella
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Nov 4, 2014 19:28
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chumbler posted:Yeah, I'm really hoping the TP weapon is the spinner and that it's not on Link. Midna w/ Spinner would be great.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:22
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The more I think about it, the more I want it to be the Spirit of the Hero as the playable character.
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Wouldn't that just be more Master Sword, though? Seems kind of redundant.KingEffingFrost posted:Midna w/ Spinner would be great. I had this thought the other day and found it very amusing. Spinner Zant would also be pretty hilarious. The only other TP weapon I could see them getting creative with would be the Dominion Rod, which would be a neat weapon for Link or even Zelda. FormerPoster fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Well, maybe an outfit for Link. Also, I'll refer to my earlier post about my dream Twilight Princess character. larchesdanrew posted:I secretly want Shad as a joke character. All his moves will be him referring to his research on the subweapons Link found in the game and trying to use them, but failing miserably as he screams in terror and is flung around the battlefield on the spinner, shot across the battlefield with dual hookshots, or is chased down by a rampaging statue he's possessed with the dominion rod.
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I've sunk a lot of time into this game, so I feel like a dumbass for not realizing something. Until yesterday, I didn't notice that the game shows you which keep the chest for the boss key will be in when the message for "search for the key to the enemy base" pops up. I also did not know that you could then check the Battle Log in the pause menu and look at that message and the highlighted keep again, just in case you didn't see it due to some hectic fighting.
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:I've sunk a lot of time into this game, so I feel like a dumbass for not realizing something. Until yesterday, I didn't notice that the game shows you which keep the chest for the boss key will be in when the message for "search for the key to the enemy base" pops up. I also did not know that you could then check the Battle Log in the pause menu and look at that message and the highlighted keep again, just in case you didn't see it due to some hectic fighting. I didn't know that either.  It's usually pretty obvious which one it is though. It's either the elemental keep, or the one that's kind of out of the way
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I have no idea how it'd work, but the dual hookshots would make an amazing weapon.
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My SO and I just unlocked the last (non-DLC) weapon the other day. Having a co-op partner to help out really does take a lot of the frustration away from some of the stages, although the frustration can be redirected at your partner sometimes. I am glad our relationship survived somehow. We waited until the last unlock to start the Master Quest map, and I'm glad we went this route, as it's rather relaxing taking on the early, easy Master Quest stages with our now-godlike characters. Also, choosing Epona while wearing the Dark Link skin completely slayed me. Why is this game so amazing?
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