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Probably Magic posted:I mean, yeah, tie the candidate to the record, but to see a Republican landslide like this is so surprising because I thought the GOP was just as, if not more, unpopular. Yeah, they were going to take the Senate, obviously, but they just seemed to win handily all too easily. I mean, Warner fell. That's... that's no good. warner won dude
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axeil posted:Because the Democratic campaign was: "we aren't Republicans." That's...not a good platform. No, the Democratic message this election was "we don't like Obama, minimum wage increases, or minorities" in stark contrast to the republicans message of "gently caress Obama, minimum wage increases, or minorities".
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Warner is still leading??? Whoops, yeah, forgot he caught up. Thank goodness for Fairfax County.
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Probably Magic posted:I mean, yeah, tie the candidate to the record, but to see a Republican landslide like this is so surprising because I thought the GOP was just as, if not more, unpopular. Yeah, they were going to take the Senate, obviously, but they just seemed to win handily all too easily. I mean, Warner fell. That's... that's no good. *almost fell. He ended up winning by about 1% The GOP had 2 advantages working for it this cycle. 1. Midterms have low turnout. GOP voters are, for a variety of demographic reasons, way more likely to vote than Democratic voters. This gave them the first edge (note polls with RVs having races like IA-Sen near even and with LVs it has a solid GOP lean). 2. The President's party always loses seats in the midterm. I'm not sure what the cause for this is, probably the loss of coattails or voter fatigue, but with the exception of 2002 the President's party has lost seats in every midterm since 1990. When you combine these two with extremely weak campaigning by the Dems it's not a surprise this was a blowout. The only chance the Dems had was that people's general malaise against the GOP caused them to vote against them. They didn't. They just stayed home instead.
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It's cool how Vermont and Minnesota aren't gonna make a big kerfluffle about seceding from the Union
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The worst part of this election is showing a political party can cynically sabotage the effective functioning of government and be rewarded by a public frustrated by the lack of government functioning.
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Plinkey posted:Um, the opposite. Gun control is going to be a losing issue for the Dems for at least a generation in a parallel vein to gay marriage being a losing issue for Republicans for the forseeable future. Any Democrat who so much as mentions guns when economics are a bona fide winning issue is a grade-A moron.
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For some reason it takes 2 losses to get rid of bored millionaires running for office in Connecticut.
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So for the past couple hours I've been following the Minnesota State House elections. The state GOP will almost certainly control that chamber, the only variance is by how much. So Dayton and the DFL-controlled State Senate have to negotiate with Republicans to get anything done for the next two years.
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Plinkey posted:Um, the opposite. You would think the 90s would've taught the Dems to shut up about gun control because while Democratic voters generally support it you're not swaying anyone else. Instead all you do is galvanize your opposition. It's a net loss. But nope, instead they ended up losing MD-Gov, CO-Sen, CO-Gov and probably a bunch of other races because they couldn't help themselves.
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axeil posted:2. The President's party always loses seats in the midterm. I'm not sure what the cause for this is, probably the loss of coattails or voter fatigue, but with the exception of 2002 the President's party has lost seats in every midterm since 1990. Senate term lengths mean that the same Senate seats elected when a new President comes in are elected again at the six-year midterm. The Dems today needed Obama's help to win, while the Rs won despite Obama.
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Fox News now saying that Obama is the obstructionist. How long have they been running with this?
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Josh Lyman posted:Fox News now saying that Obama is the obstructionist. How long have they been running with this? Since like 2008?
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Josh Lyman posted:Fox News now saying that Obama is the obstructionist. How long have they been running with this? November 2010.
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axeil posted:Take the victories you can. VA-Sen, CT-Gov, maybe CO-gov, PA-gov. In 2010 the Dems lost literally everything. Like I can't think of a single race they won they shouldn't have except DE-Sen. NE-02  Unless Omaha is secretly hard R, it might be a hilariously inconsequential pickup.
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Plinkey posted:Since like 2008? Nah, they waited at least until a little after he was inaugurated. So February-March 2009.
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axeil posted:You would think the 90s would've taught the Dems to shut up about gun control because while Democratic voters generally support it you're not swaying anyone else. Instead all you do is galvanize your opposition. It's a net loss. CO gov isn't done yet (though it shouldn't have been this close, yeah) and to be fair sandy hook seemed like good cover for gun control at the time
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In other referendum news, Oregon resoundingly rejected letting illegal immigrants drive legally on Oregon roads.
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A Winner is Jew posted:November 2010.
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Four more years of Paul LePage, god drat it Maine. At least Sam Brownback winning made sense from the perspective of a blood red state.
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Jagchosis posted:CO gov isn't done yet (though it shouldn't have been this close, yeah) and to be fair sandy hook seemed like good cover for gun control at the time The best news source in america strongly disagrees with you.
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axeil posted:The reason the Dems didn't win this one is because they had no platform. Quick, without anyone looking anything up, tell me what the Dem house/Senate candidate in your state wanted to pass if they were elected. I can handle this one, because I didn't have a Democratic Congressional candidate to vote for. This is in FL-13, a district consisting of most of Pinellas County. I went to vote this morning and was positively blown away by the fact that there was no Democratic candidate on the ballot. This isn't rural Texas or anything; it's a swing district in a swing state. I wish I'd gone to the county Democrat meetings this year. If I'd known there was nobody willing to run in the general after the disastrous special election to fill the late Bill Young's seat this February, I'd have run as a stereotypical "liberal" Dem and staffed my campaign with USF poli-sci students looking to write theses and probably gotten 35% without any state or national support because I was a warm body with a (D) by my name. It totally blows my mind that the state Democratic Party had their poo poo so scattered that they couldn't even field a candidate for Congress in this race.
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Jagchosis posted:CO gov isn't done yet (though it shouldn't have been this close, yeah) and to be fair sandy hook seemed like good cover for gun control at the time If you want to win votes there's never a good cover for gun control, the gun people will always outlast you. If the dems gave up on gun control I honestly think they could take back to blue collar southern bloc in the next 20 years but there is too much distrust now.
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axeil posted:You would think the 90s would've taught the Dems to shut up about gun control because while Democratic voters generally support it you're not swaying anyone else. Instead all you do is galvanize your opposition. It's a net loss. Cuomo was re-elected by 13 points, dude's basically Gunbunny Hitler.
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Oregon Governor is a nice hold as well, especially since there was some worry about it towards the end. Actually, if you just look at Oregon, this election went pretty well!
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i hate everything and everyone and i'm trying to drink myself but its not working because i try that most nights anyway. please advise
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Time for somebody (Rahm?) to eat Steve Israel
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ComradeCosmobot posted:In other referendum news, Oregon resoundingly rejected letting illegal immigrants drive legally on Oregon roads. I listened to a presentation by one of the opposition organizers on the 'City Club of Eugene' (or something like it on NPR) several weeks ago and one of his points was, "do you want these people to date your daughter?" First time I ever heard someone say that and mean it.
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wheez the roux posted:i hate everything and everyone and i'm trying to drink myself but its not working because i try that most nights anyway. please advise Think back to the Super Bowl Wheez 
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RIP Governor Kashkari. Some things just aren't meant to be.
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wheez the roux posted:i hate everything and everyone and i'm trying to drink myself but its not working because i try that most nights anyway. please advise same. this election is so bad i am barely buzzed even though i've drank several hundred ml of vodka
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Jagchosis posted:same. this election is so bad i am barely buzzed even though i've drank several hundred ml of vodka I just argued with people in the 2014 thread for like 2 hours and it's 2 in the morning. I'm not drunk but I feel like I should be.
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:RIP Governor Kashkari. Some things just aren't meant to be. LOL@ Del Norte County. Oh, look, Del Norte made me laugh instead of shudder! That is progress!
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wheez the roux posted:i hate everything and everyone and i'm trying to drink myself but its not working because i try that most nights anyway. please advise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJZYG5qwHHI
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Jagchosis posted:same. this election is so bad i am barely buzzed even though i've drank several hundred ml of vodka ml? DIE COMMIE. I'm about to pour myself to 12 ALL-AMERICAN LIQUID OUNCES of bourbon.
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7000 vote deficit come on hick
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:RIP Governor Kashkari. Some things just aren't meant to be. That just proves that there is hope for Orange County yet. there is no hope, only zuul
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If Joni Ernst gets re-elected in 6 years, I swear to god I am moving back to Iowa and shaking every loving hand in the entire state running against her. I don't care that I'm a poor college drop-out, I do not want that woman in office.
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