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Elephant Ambush posted:Americans are fickle and have really short memories. I've always liked the analogy between the two major parties and UPS and FedEx. It's called "What have you done for me lately?"
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BiggerBoat posted:Man, Rush is going to be insufferable today. More so than usual I mean.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 20:23 |
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Gozinbulx posted:Man, seeing as how I get the majority of my Amero-centric news from this thread, seeing republican politicians act like insane idiotic children for 2 years and then be magically rewarded for this behavior by being given control of both the Senate and House is just astonishing. I'm done with this country. A lot of it is just plain old gerrymandering. The disparity between popular votes and who gets to go to Congress can be insane.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 20:25 |
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Nonsense posted:Conservative states are growing larger, and liberal states remain static. Citation needed. Thanks.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 20:26 |
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Elephant Ambush posted:So yeah, Americans are fickle and have short memories. This is so true, and on exactly those same levels. I work for one of those big shipping companies, and people honestly go back and forth like that. And people have totally forgotten about Republicans past screw ups, because they have to, because it is the only other option if they are dissatisfied with the Democrats. At least a few Republicans on the radio last nights were honest with themselves that this is not a "Republican Mandate" election. Nonsense posted:Republicans have made Texas the most job producing state in the history of the nation. Perry isn't going to run nationally on this for the same reason he couldn't in previous years. Every time people have dug into where those jobs are, it turns out that the bulk of them are low wage McJobs and government work. Burger flippers, bureaucrats, and contractors on pork projects aren't an economic miracle.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 20:27 |
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For the senators that won election, are they all hard-right so that they couldn't ever be used for the swing vote? Will they always toe the party line?
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 20:45 |
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Unzip and Attack posted:Citation needed. Thanks. It's true in the sense that most migration is headed towards southern states but it's ignoring that a lot of those migrants are not conservative.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 20:51 |
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Beowulfs_Ghost posted:This is so true, and on exactly those same levels. I work for one of those big shipping companies, and people honestly go back and forth like that. And people have totally forgotten about Republicans past screw ups, because they have to, because it is the only other option if they are dissatisfied with the Democrats. Perry faces corruption charges. He did successfully however, transform the GOP in Texas into a machine that will probably last longer than Tammany Hall. Also Democratic rags can tell True-Believer Dems how all the jobs here are burger flipping jobs all they like. Democrats are stuck in the rust belt while states like Texas get all the manufacturing, research, and oil-gas billions. That doesn't change the fact this new GOP is going to slaughter what was left of Ann Richards footprint, including our amazing roads, best in the nation, no longer. Losses-Gains, that doesn't mean much in a single-party majority state. This state shouldn't be getting prosperous under republicans, but it is.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 20:53 |
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I'm not too sure that Texas is quite the miracle you're making it out to be unless you're already wealthly.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:00 |
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Buckwheat Sings posted:I'm not too sure that Texas is quite the miracle you're making it out to be unless you're already wealthly. That's literally everywhere, but nobody is chatting up the Idaho economic miracle.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:04 |
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I'm more a fan of the Kansas economic miracle.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:06 |
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FMguru posted:I'm more a fan of the Kansas economic miracle. I think you'll find that there is active support in general when governments do not make enough tax revenue to fund lights being on at highway shelter stops.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:09 |
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FMguru posted:I'm more a fan of the Kansas economic miracle. I left Kansas too early and missed out on all that prosperity!
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:10 |
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Speaking on Kansas, I'm saddened Brownbeck lost. The State is just screwing itself over, more and more...
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:11 |
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Nonsense posted:That's literally everywhere, but nobody is chatting up the Idaho economic miracle. No one is chatting it up because no one has had an economic miracle in the past few years. Texas really hasn't either. The only selling point many of those southern states have is that job prospects are still lovely, but at least property is cheap.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:11 |
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A lot of the Texas "economic miracle" is flim flam bullshit, and a lot of what could be considered legitimate about it is stuff that can't be repeated elsewhere. You can't pull oil or gas out of the ground where none exists, and even here in Texas a lot of the recent strength and growth in the energy sector is only possible because prices were high. Those wells and operations will begin to shut down again if oil prices continue to drop.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:12 |
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Tab8715 posted:Speaking on Kansas, I'm saddened Brownbeck lost. The State is just screwing itself over, more and more... But Brownback won..?
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:17 |
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joeburz posted:But Brownback won..? Whoops, he did my bad.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:19 |
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Tab8715 posted:For the senators that won election, are they all hard-right so that they couldn't ever be used for the swing vote? Will they always toe the party line? Probably. The Republicans are much better at voting in lock step.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:32 |
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Kansas is loving hilarious. Look at everything that's happened there because of Brownback and realize that, in their voters minds, all of that is balanced out by "yeah but this guy is a Democrat".
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:34 |
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foobardog posted:Probably. The Republicans are much better at voting in lock step. Are you posting from 2002 somehow? Right behind "we hate Obama" their entire schtick for the past 6 years has been internal dysfunction.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:35 |
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Kansas is loving hilarious. Look at everything that's happened there because of Brownback and realize that, in their voters minds, all of that is balanced out by "yeah but this guy is a Democrat". Brownbeck fought like hell to keep his seat because his policies have done so much damage to the state. Lifelong Republicans switch sides just to get out before their state has been ruined.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:41 |
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Are you posting from 2002 somehow? Right behind "we hate Obama" their entire schtick for the past 6 years has been internal dysfunction. Right, but the actual people who know what they're doing were making Movement Conservative a much more state-solidified coalition because the Republicans, as evidenced by a lot of their legislation from ALEC, and were better able to get their voters out there, proven yesterday. It ensures Republicans will never give up the offices that entrench them in the states they currently hold down, like Texas, etc. from ever being affected by demographic changes. The Hispanic community could also I dunno, maybe vote?
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:45 |
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Nonsense posted:Losses-Gains, that doesn't mean much in a single-party majority state. This state shouldn't be getting prosperous under republicans, but it is. It's prosperous in the same way that Russia is prosperous under Putin.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 22:14 |
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The rich get richer and the poor continue to get hosed over. An economic miracle!!! I don't really get how it's a "miracle" when Texas has been a powerhouse for a long time, primarily owing to its natural resources and the fact that many defense related industries have been based out of it. Darkman Fanpage fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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ReidRansom posted:A lot of the Texas "economic miracle" is flim flam bullshit, and a lot of what could be considered legitimate about it is stuff that can't be repeated elsewhere. You can't pull oil or gas out of the ground where none exists, and even here in Texas a lot of the recent strength and growth in the energy sector is only possible because prices were high. Those wells and operations will begin to shut down again if oil prices continue to drop. Aside from that running a state in the GOP way can also have disastrous consequences. Hell, look at PA. Governor Corbett hosed things up hard by being extreme right conservative. The state was already a poster child for the Rust Belt and Republican influence has done absolutely nothing except make life suck more for anybody that isn't rich and torpedo any possibility of recovery. The depressing fact is that the Great Recession did gently caress all to PA because there wasn't much you could do to it. Life here continued on as usual except that there were a few more poor people and the poor got to eat less bacon. poo poo sucked, poo poo continued to suck, poo poo still sucks. The right's response of "whatever, ignore the problem, it will go away eventually" hasn't accomplished much.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 22:26 |
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Darkman Fanpage posted:The rich get richer and the poor continue to get hosed over. An economic miracle!!! Rick Perry is still waiting for those galtian Silicon Valley libertarians to flock like hordes from the communist hellhole Commiefornia to the land of promise. It'll happen. Anyday now.
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 22:33 |
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Job Truniht posted:Rick Perry is still waiting for those galtian Silicon Valley libertarians to flock like hordes from the communist hellhole Commiefornia to the land of promise. It'll happen. Anyday now. Well, looking at Austin...
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# ? Nov 5, 2014 22:37 |
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computer parts posted:Well, looking at Austin... Austin is driving away businesses with its envirocommie plastic bag ban and must be stopped.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 00:47 |
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quote:Last night was a big one for the Republican Party. They bludgeoned Democrats in Senate races across the country, retaking control of the chamber, while solidifying their majority in the House of Representatives. Fox News’ election night team could scarcely contain their excitement as race after race confirmed the conservative wave they had long predicted. Laughing at them is probably the best way to keep from killing oneself.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 01:14 |
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Some guy just called in to my local Vegas shithead show and began his call by saying he voted straight R because Obama is doing a lovely job and then said it's really sad that people vote based on party and can't just pick the best person for the job.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 03:02 |
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quote:RUSH: What I want to do here is cut to the chase. The result yesterday is exactly what I said it would be. The Republican Party now has one of the most important and unquestionable mandates a political party has ever had at its junction with American history, especially a political party which did not run on a national agenda. The Republican Party purposely stood mute nationally. quote:RUSH: Even President Obama knows that this election was all about him. Even President Obama knows that the electorate said yesterday they want Obama stopped. And if you doubt me, let me take you back to October 2nd and Roll Call. "Obama: My Policies Are on the Ballot -- 'I am not on the ballot this fall. Michelle's pretty happy about that. But make no mistake: These policies are on the ballot. quote:RUSH: No, this was not a defeat for incumbents. It was not a rejection of incumbents. This was a rejection of liberalism. Whether the voters know that or not, liberalism is what this country has been in the shackles of for six years. Liberalism is what is ruining this country. The people who voted yesterday said, "No more! No mas! Stop it!" The people of this country yesterday went to vote, and they rejected liberal Democrat policies. The next two years will be interesting to say the least. I can't really blame all the right-wing media outlets for ing all over themselves for what a wonderful job they've done gerrymandering because they simply haven't had a political victory of this magnitude in decades.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 03:51 |
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Yeah, it's interesting to guess what they're going to do now that they can't deflect attention on every issue by blaming the Dem-controlled senate. Blaming Obama for their failure to formulate sane policy is going to get old real quick.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 03:59 |
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Elephant Ambush posted:Americans are fickle and have really short memories. I've always liked the analogy between the two major parties and UPS and FedEx. http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/05/news/economy/voters-obama-economy-four-charts/?hpt=hp_t2 The title for that article is hilarious too: "Why voters hate the Obama economy" *lists facts and graphs showing the improved economy* edit: I remember the day after the 2008 election Rush was hemming and hawing about how it didn't mean anything and elections weren't purely about winners and losers and it meant it was time for Republicans to work with the Democrats to get things done from a conservative bent. Color me shocked he's being a hypocritical lying poo poo now! edit 2: "the world's lone superpower" ahahahahahahahahahahahhahahah Hazo fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Nov 6, 2014 |
# ? Nov 6, 2014 04:00 |
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Well, I just got done marathoning my stand-up comedy collection while drinking anything even vaguely alcoholic I could get a hold of after seeing the polls. loving Mitch McTurtle won the Kentucky seat, which means he will continue to slowly grudge-gently caress us in the name of freedom. I couldn't even vote -- they wouldn't let me off work and even if they did I couldn't get a ride. But hey, why should I be allowed to vote anyway? I don't have a six-figure income.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 04:06 |
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beatlegs posted:Yeah, it's interesting to guess what they're going to do now that they can't deflect attention on every issue by blaming the Dem-controlled senate. Blaming Obama for their failure to formulate sane policy is going to get old real quick. Well now they give America what it really wants: Benghazi hearings.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 04:06 |
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Overheard at work today: "Well, at least Obama's done." "What do you mean?" "He's gone." I said nothing.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 04:55 |
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Dr. Faustus posted:Overheard at work today: Yea, a certain type of person is awakening from their hibernation in cubicles across the nation. Living in the Phoenix area makes it so much more wonderful.
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Hazo posted:Yep. The economy and job market are objectively in the best shape they've been in years but people are concerned about it because they're loving stupid and the Democratic party can't capitalize on their own successes. So Republicans can go out and lie about what an awful job the scary black man has done with the economy and dumb people will buy into it. The problem is "the best shape they've been in years" remains faint praise. The voters don't want a merely passable economy, they want a good economy, for them, and nobody is feeling well-off or successful any more because wages are flat and stagnant and have been consistently for decades. I mean that's no more Obama's fault than it is any other politician's but the voters aren't entirely delusional here. There's a mass dissatisfaction in this country and it's not unjustified, just poorly targeted.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 06:04 |
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Of course, but if someone complains specifically about the "poor" economic conditions and blames Obama for them (as seems to be the case based on exit polls) then I think it's pretty safe to say they're indeed delusional because the statistics unequivocally show a steady recovery since the collapse under Bush. Unless they genuinely think deregulation, privatization, and fiscal conservatism are actual viable ways to fix the economy despite the evidence to the contrary but I don't think... well I dunno, I guess I can believe that 7 out of 10 off-year voters are dumb enough to think that.
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