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Eggnogium posted:Really? I know that movie was dark but I didn't take the ending as anything other than sincere. When the movie's entire conceit explodes so does the tone. Could you clarify what you mean by "sincere" in this context?
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Could you clarify what you mean by "sincere" in this context? It shows that life actually can survive on the planet. morestuff fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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Nov 5, 2014 18:20
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morestuff posted:It shows that life actually can survive on the planet. Life, sure, but I didn't get the sense that human life was included in that. I don't think that makes the movie or its ending insincere though.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Life, sure, but I didn't get the sense that human life was included in that. I don't think that makes the movie or its ending insincere though. Hey man, life, uh, finds a way. 
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Nov 5, 2014 19:06
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Life, sure, but I didn't get the sense that human life was included in that. I don't think that makes the movie or its ending insincere though. Death of the author, blah blah blah but: quote:They have no memory of what it's like to be on the Earth. For them to procreate, it's going to take a little time. So, for me, it's a very hopeful ending ... But those two kids will spread the human race ... I don't really feel everyone must die. I hope there were other survivors who lived through the avalanche, I just didn't have the means to shoot that ... You realize later on that the kids are the ones keeping this engine going, and this machinery intact. The engine is itself is on its way to extinction along with cigarettes, and other goods. Extinction is a repeated word throughout the film. But outside the train, life is actually returning. It's nature that's eternal, and not the train or the engine, as you see with the polar bear at the end. morestuff fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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i mean what i basically got out of the ending is now they're stuck in the movie Alive, but with nobody to come and rescue them. but there is a glimmer of optimism in the polar bear, that life will go on in some form and the world is still a beautiful place, more beautiful than the train.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i mean what i basically got out of the ending is now they're stuck in the movie Alive, but with nobody to come and rescue them. I thought it was pretty optimistic. They have plenty of food, both fresh and non perishable,water, lots of clothes, and a huge as gently caress shelter. Plus the climate seems to be warming up quite rapidly. Also tail sectioners have become experts at survival. Mister Nobody fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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Nov 5, 2014 19:16
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Mister Nobody posted:I thought it was pretty optimistic. they have plenty of food, both fresh and non perishable,water, lots of clothes, and a huge as gently caress shelter. Do they, though? That crash looked like it hosed a lot of that poo poo up, including the shelter part
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If the 2010s haven't been working out for you so far, say gently caress it and pretend it's 1992 again because Batman, Batman Returns, and the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were all just added.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Do they, though? That crash looked like it hosed a lot of that poo poo up, including the shelter part At the very least wilford had some chow stashed away, but your right the cars get separated and some get outright pulverized by falling down a mountain. Hopefully Yona has some inherited Inuit instincts.
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Nov 5, 2014 19:27
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Well they both grew up on a train and have literally never been outside before in their life. So I'm guessing they're not really prepared for survival in a hellish snowscape populated by ice bears.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Could you clarify what you mean by "sincere" in this context? I mean the face-value interpretation of the the planet warming back up, some people surviving the explosion that are the opposite sex, and the polar bear being framed majestically, not threateningly. And I'm not really going to argue about the actual logistics of their likelihood to survive. I thought the last 3 pages established that's a pretty dumb line of reasoning.
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It's really weird and confusing that there's currently a discussion about the ending of Snowpiercer going on in both Netflix threads.
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Eggnogium posted:I mean the face-value interpretation of the the planet warming back up, some people surviving the explosion that are the opposite sex, and the polar bear being framed majestically, not threateningly. i agree that the polar bear was filmed majestically, but i saw that as implying that nature itself is majestic, and will go on just fine without man. also i just tend to be uncomfortable with "repopulate the earth" fantasies because they seem to imply "sure, let's just rape all the women"
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:also i just tend to be uncomfortable with "repopulate the earth" fantasies because they seem to imply "sure, let's just rape all the women" That seems...outside the text. morestuff fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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coyo7e posted:Well, except for the fact that it left several stuntmen out of a job. Really? I thought because of union rules or whatever they still had to hire them, they just didn't use them? I am probably just remembering a story really incorrectly about some action movie where the main actors refused to let the stunt double do the work because they wanted to do it themselves so the stunt people were getting paid to stand around. Edit: oh yeah, I forgot this was the Snowpiercer thread so here's my critical opinion: I liked it.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i agree that the polar bear was filmed majestically, but i saw that as implying that nature itself is majestic, and will go on just fine without man. I know that I wasn't the only one who, as soon as they saw the polar bear, said to themselves, "PleaseslidedownthemountainandgivethemaCokePleeeeaseslidedownthemountainandgivethemaCoke."
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morestuff posted:That seems...outside the text. Could be, but it always seems to be the unspoken implication of those scenarios so they make me feel very icky.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Could be, but it always seems to be the unspoken implication ...are you Dennis?
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I sat through the entirety of Snowpiercer (it took two sittings) and it's garbage. Utter garbage. Even John Hurt looks ashamed, and that man's been in some shite films. 5th element is also terrible, but at least it's interesting to watch.
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precision posted:...are you Dennis? now all I can think about is that bit where he tries to lure the weather lady down to his bunker "for the good of the race" stickyfngrdboy posted:5th element is also terrible, who the hell are these people that don't like the Fifth Element?
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:now all I can think about is that bit where he tries to lure the weather lady down to his bunker "for the good of the race" I dont think I said I didn't like it, in fact, I'm sure I didn't. It is, however, garbage.
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Erebus posted:Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Legitimately one of my favorite movies of all time. I own it on DVD, but will probably watch it for the Xth time on Netflix just because.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Could be, but it always seems to be the unspoken implication of those scenarios so they make me feel very icky. Not even unspoken in some films (Dr Strangelove).
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So is Snowpiercer the new Children of Men? Are goons going to take out an ad for the movie asking for Academy Award consideration?
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The original TMNT movie is definitely better than the new TMNT movie. I can't believe how well those costumes hold up. The new movie even directly ripped a scene from the old one (slice of pizza landing on Splinter's face).
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Jose Oquendo posted:So is Snowpiercer the new Children of Men? Are goons going to take out an ad for the movie asking for Academy Award consideration? i enjoyed it but it's not even in my top ten of the year and i think it's Bong Joon-Ho's worst film.
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I haven't seen snowpeircer yet but I'm already sick of it.
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beanieson posted:I haven't seen snowpeircer yet but I'm already sick of it.
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I don't even think anyone's over hyping it. I think that a few people had an argument and snowpiercer got caught in the middle
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This thread made me sick of Snowpiercer, and I loving loved Snowpiercer.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:This thread made me sick of Snowpiercer, and I loving loved Snowpiercer. Ah, it's The Matrix Effect all over again.
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coyo7e posted:So if you replace all the technology with *magic* it's exactly the same and thus must be a fantasy? What about still-suits? It's just mostly fantasy very little actual sciency stuff that might work.
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Magnus Gallant posted:I don't even think anyone's over hyping it. I think that a few people had an argument and snowpiercer got caught in the middle Actually that's what started it, I said I didn't like it and somebody tried to say it was the perfect film.
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MadMattH posted:Actually that's what started it, I said I didn't like it and somebody tried to say it was the perfect film. Oh well no film is perfect.
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Everybody knows the perfect film is The Lion King. Tell me one loving thing wrong with that movie. Also, Die Hard is a close second.
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Magnus Gallant posted:Oh well no film is perfect. It's a Wonderful Life, Au Hasard Balthazar, Pier Paolo Pasolini's Oedipus Rex, Terror of Mechagodzilla, The Wild Child, Days of Heaven, Miller's Crossing, Dazed & Confused, and Moulin Rouge! are all "perfect," so, no. SolidSnakesBandana posted:Everybody knows the perfect film is The Lion King. Tell me one loving thing wrong with that movie. That it's Nietzchean, racist propaganda for little kids. And not even the good kind, like Bambi.
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Magnus Gallant posted:Honestly who cares about a specific persons ideas of how genres work? It's one person the world will continue to spin if he doesn't think snowpiercer is sci-fi If it makes anyone feel any better Netflix doesn't agree with me either and often suggests movies I definitely wouldn't like. For example, I liked the movie Slap Shot, but now Netflix seems to think I will like all movies about any sport at all. It does suggest that I wouldn't like something like Zulu that I certainly do like. SolidSnakesBandana posted:Everybody knows the perfect film is The Lion King. Tell me one loving thing wrong with that movie. Also, Die Hard is a close second. For more pile on, I didn't like The Lion King. The music was cheesy as poo poo.
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