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CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

code:

StringBuilder documentation = new StringBuilder();

documentation.append("This is the documentation for the "
   + (first ? "first" : "second")
   + " thing or whatever."
   + " This isn't a real thing; it's just an example."
   + getAdditionalDocumentation());

documentation.toString();

Uh, that's not the point of using a StringBuilder.

# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:30

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# ? May 16, 2024 17:56

Zaxxon: Feb 14, 2004; Wir Tanzen Mekanik

CPColin posted:

Might not even need to keep track of a set; just remember or look up the last value you added to the merged list.

yeah that just dawned on me.

# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:32

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

CPColin posted:

code:

StringBuilder documentation = new StringBuilder();

documentation.append("This is the documentation for the "
   + (first ? "first" : "second")
   + " thing or whatever."
   + " This isn't a real thing; it's just an example."
   + getAdditionalDocumentation());

documentation.toString();

Uh, that's not the point of using a StringBuilder.

lol. pretty sure the compiler optimizes those concatenations but lol all the same

# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:44

syntaxrigger: Jul 7, 2011; Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

Soricidus posted:

if he has any sense, he's stopped using js entirely

Is dart viable now?

https://www.dartlang.org
Because typescript is annoying to use and coffee script seems like a joke.

e: ugh awful app

# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:49

more like dICK: Feb 15, 2010; This is inevitable.

use clojurescript obviously

# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:50

Careful Drums: Oct 30, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

syntaxrigger posted:

coffee script seems like a joke.

let me tell you about the real fix for coffeescript, iced coffee script! https://maxtaco.github.io/coffee-script/

# ? Nov 5, 2014 21:57

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

don't write a web frontend.

in one of the most pathetic failures of all human history, after 20 years of constant effort, there is still no sign of any good way to build an app that runs in a browser. do whatever it takes to avoid having to work in this field. if all else fails, i suggest committing a major felony and then turning yourself in; better to spend life in jail than to spend one hour working on web frontends.

# ? Nov 5, 2014 23:07

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

qntm posted:

has he just stopped using OO entirely because that list leaves him with a very small range of options

he's using Object.freeze now

JavaScript code:

function constructor(spec) {
    let {member} = spec,
        {other} = other_constructor(spec),
        method = function () {
            //member, other, method, spec
        };
    return Object.freeze({
        method,
        other
    });
}

# ? Nov 6, 2014 01:32

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

Soricidus posted:

don't write a web frontend.

in one of the most pathetic failures of all human history, after 20 years of constant effort, there is still no sign of any good way to build an app that runs in a browser. do whatever it takes to avoid having to work in this field. if all else fails, i suggest committing a major felony and then turning yourself in; better to spend life in jail than to spend one hour working on web frontends.

well, but in full disclosure you don't actually mind sucking dicks or tossing salads so other people's milage may vary

# ? Nov 6, 2014 01:43

syntaxrigger: Jul 7, 2011; Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

Soricidus posted:

don't write a web frontend.

in one of the most pathetic failures of all human history, after 20 years of constant effort, there is still no sign of any good way to build an app that runs in a browser. do whatever it takes to avoid having to work in this field. if all else fails, i suggest committing a major felony and then turning yourself in; better to spend life in jail than to spend one hour working on web frontends.

i can't think of a better note to make my exit on

# ? Nov 6, 2014 01:50

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

what's the js framework of choice this week? didn't they just redo angular to have some kind of templating language because js sucks or something so it changes hourly what people actually use

# ? Nov 6, 2014 01:59

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

use knockout.js. 3.2 came out recently and has component templates.

# ? Nov 6, 2014 02:22

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

Luigi Thirty posted:

what's the js framework of choice this week? didn't they just redo angular to have some kind of templating language because js sucks or something so it changes hourly what people actually use

what do you want to do?
the best answer is none of them. if you really need to make something that requires a javascript framework, back up and rethink what you're doing because you're probably loving up.

# ? Nov 6, 2014 02:24

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Stringent posted:

what do you want to do?
the best answer is none of them. if you really need to make something that requires a javascript framework, back up and rethink what you're doing because you're probably loving up.

nothing, I am trying to provoke more JavaScript rants

# ? Nov 6, 2014 02:33

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Symbolic Butt posted:

he's using Object.freeze now

JavaScript code:

function constructor(spec) {
    let {member} = spec,
        {other} = other_constructor(spec),
        method = function () {
            //member, other, method, spec
        };
    return Object.freeze({
        method,
        other
    });
}

functional javascript?

# ? Nov 6, 2014 03:13

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

Careful Drums posted:

let me tell you about the real fix for coffeescript, iced coffee script! https://maxtaco.github.io/coffee-script/

on the plus side there is someone in javascript land doesn't want to do continuation passing style by hand

# ? Nov 6, 2014 03:26

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

I think whatever mainstream language you want is fine, the problem is that poo poo keeps changing and new responses are required. there is too much change, and too fast. we have built our houses on sand.

# ? Nov 6, 2014 04:20

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

we keep solving and re-solving the same problem in different and exciting ways and there is a lot of motion and precious little progress.

# ? Nov 6, 2014 04:22

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

if your language name starts with "c" and has 3 or fewer characters in it you're probably fine.

# ? Nov 6, 2014 04:24

Arcsech: Aug 5, 2008

Bloody posted:

if your language name starts with "c" and has 3 or fewer characters in it you're probably fine.

coq

# ? Nov 6, 2014 04:31

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

cum

# ? Nov 6, 2014 05:31

JewKiller 3000: Nov 28, 2006; by Lowtax

Arcsech posted:

coq

# ? Nov 6, 2014 05:33

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Bloody posted:

you're probably

Arcsech posted:

coq

# ? Nov 6, 2014 05:50

my homie dhall: Dec 9, 2010; honey, oh please, it's just a machine

Arcsech posted:

coq

Nice!

# ? Nov 6, 2014 06:07

Brave GNU World: Nov 1, 2013; by Cyrano4747

Luigi Thirty posted:

what's the js framework of choice this week? didn't they just redo angular to have some kind of templating language because js sucks or something so it changes hourly what people actually use

in the past week there's been like 20 articles on Why AngularJS Sucks, so the new hot framework is react+flux.

# ? Nov 9, 2014 06:51

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Brave GNU World posted:

in the past week there's been like 20 articles on Why AngularJS Sucks

it's the JS bit, hth

# ? Nov 9, 2014 09:50

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Soricidus posted:

it's the JS bit, hth

it's the browser

# ? Nov 9, 2014 18:05

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

it's you

# ? Nov 9, 2014 19:43

Malcolm XML: Aug 8, 2009; I always knew it would end like ｔｈｉｓ．

Brave GNU World posted:

in the past week there's been like 20 articles on Why AngularJS Sucks, so the new hot framework is react+flux.

people realized that changing the dom and triggering repaints is awful so now they program a js replcement and double buffer it in

# ? Nov 9, 2014 19:49

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

there's nothing particularly terrible in js, it's got about as many warts as most, the problem is that it's crammed into into the browser talking http to everything, which is about the worst possible platform for complex applications.

# ? Nov 9, 2014 20:05

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

worse is better and web browsers are like the most successful things ever so what does that tell you

# ? Nov 9, 2014 20:06

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

rotor posted:

worse is better and web browsers are like the most successful things ever so what does that tell you

it tells me the rest of my career is gonna be spent on unfucking people's 1980s shell script while simultaneously writing javascript that sucks even worse

# ? Nov 9, 2014 20:07

z0rlandi viSSer: Nov 5, 2013

Luigi Thirty posted:

it's you

# ? Nov 9, 2014 20:10

karms: Jan 22, 2006; by Nyc_Tattoo; Yam Slacker

im still not sure what nodejs actually does that is uniquely good at

i mean the whole "lightweight" "data driven" "real time" "distributed" doesnt mean jack about a language environment. thats framework talk

# ? Nov 10, 2014 00:13

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

KARMA! posted:

im still not sure what nodejs actually does that is uniquely good at

runs js

# ? Nov 10, 2014 00:40

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

runs js

out of bln?

# ? Nov 10, 2014 00:44

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

rotor posted:

there's nothing particularly terrible in js

the terrible part is what isn't in js. such as, e.g., any concept of libraries or modules or namespaces or anything, anything at all, that isn't pasting files together and praying they use compatible tricks to pretend the language supports libraries or modules or namespaces.

# ? Nov 10, 2014 00:55

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

every internet company is trying to make js run as fast as possible, might as well take advantage of it.

# ? Nov 10, 2014 01:02

AWWNAW: Dec 30, 2008

Dude on my team with seniority is pushing for it for some reason, I think just to put it on his resume

we have a perfectly fine REST setup already that is actually maintainable and debuggable

# ? Nov 10, 2014 01:50

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Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

if i saw node on someone with seniority's resume i'd be wanting to hear a p good story about what alignment of forces drug them, kicking and screaming, into using it.

# ? Nov 10, 2014 02:14

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