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wats the big plugm on all these cards? idk
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:27 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 08:01 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZe3MdmosYM
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:28 |
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Smythe posted:wats the big plugm on all these cards? idk yes you do. don't play coy smythe
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:29 |
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Smythe posted:not nearly as elite as ur ppls ancient cards but i had a sorry for your loss
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:33 |
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Werthog 95 posted:the answer i was looking for was creative text assist, apparently german vocaloid better than I thought
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:35 |
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Jonny 290 posted:yes you do. don't play coy smythe its the midi / jame plug? i had to look it up. dont think i ever had anything to plug into it. ive always been peripheral poor
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:37 |
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SmokaDustbowl posted:SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 I7 motherfucker Remember the mess that was getting Plug and Play hardware working under DOS? Seriously it was easier just going back to hardware that had DIP switches or jumpers for resource allocation
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 12:31 |
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You Am I posted:I7 motherfucker loving WAY easier. "Plug And Play" was hate speech in '96.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 12:50 |
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so i can just connect this card, and run the p&p wizard,and windows will automatically assign it an irq that's already being used by three other devices and make my mouse stop working? neatos
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 14:55 |
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flakeloaf posted:so i can just connect this card, and run the p&p wizard,and windows will automatically assign it an irq that's already being used by three other devices and make my mouse stop working? your neatos is a piece of poo poo
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 16:50 |
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Jonny 290 posted:loving WAY easier. plug and pray
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 20:48 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:plug and pray rofl
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 21:02 |
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A couple months ago I threw away like 6 or 7 analog cd-audio cables when I was cleaning my junk closet. XP was pretty astonishing as you didn't need the analog or spdif cable between sound card and cd-rom drive. I still use Audigy 2 on my desktop -- resampled 48 kHz just sounds better.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 21:13 |
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flakeloaf posted:so i can just connect this card, and run the p&p wizard,and windows will automatically assign it an irq that's already being used by three other devices and make my mouse stop working? Windows 95 had no IRQ steering, so it was as bad as DOS with resource allocation Thankfully Win 98 had IRQ steering and allowed multiple devices to hang off the same IRQ port.
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 01:26 |
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old computers are cool
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 02:37 |
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papa_november posted:the best soundcard
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 02:44 |
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Smythe posted:wats the big plugm on all these cards? idk
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 02:46 |
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Smythe posted:wats the big plugm on all these cards? idk the joystick / midi port?
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 02:50 |
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You Am I posted:Windows 95 had no IRQ steering, so it was as bad as DOS with resource allocation bu bu bu bu bu odd versions of windars were BAAAD
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 04:55 |
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all versions of wandows are bad
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 04:57 |
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hey what was irq anyhow i remember messing with it beause sometimes it would fix things but i never knew what it was
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 05:03 |
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:hey what was irq anyhow Interrupt request, it was a hardware line that the card used to tell the CPU or bus "Hey, I need your attention"
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 05:07 |
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Citizen Tayne posted:Interrupt request, it was a hardware line that the card used to tell the CPU or bus "Hey, I need your attention" And there were a limited number so if you ran out because of too many peripherals well tough poo poo. If two devices shared an irq it would hang your poo poo
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 05:21 |
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seems like a bad way to design things im0o
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 05:30 |
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Smythe posted:wats the big plugm on all these cards? idk you can plug a little module in for either ethernet over rj45 or coaxial
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 05:45 |
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:seems like a bad way to design things im0o It still works that way because peripherals need a way to get attention from the host, they just use an APIC instead of having everything set in hardware to use a certain IRQ. hit a key? Interrupt. Drag your mouse? Interrupt. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrupt_request
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 05:48 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a324ykKV-7Y pro-est sound cards
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 06:19 |
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Millstone posted:And there were a limited number so if you ran out because of too many peripherals well tough poo poo. If two devices shared an irq it would hang your poo poo The pain of dealing with a PC with multiple Parallel and serial ports and extra stuff like sound cards and network cards and trying to get the most out of IRQs oh god
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 08:35 |
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a324ykKV-7Y lgr has some cool videos, i like his channel his review of simhealth is pro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F-H0GwsZPk
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 14:21 |
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:seems like a bad way to design things im0o it is good as long as either the user or the OS was completely in control of them if i set blaster=A220 I5 D7 then that card's on IRQ5 and if something else conflicts it's my own fault for assigning interrupts without reading autoexec.bat and config.sys to find out which resources are already taken win95 would create braindead conflicts that you had to manually resolve by pawing through device manager to find out which two devices were sharing resources and separate them yourself and then blindly trust that it'd magically get everything else right
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 14:38 |
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You Am I posted:The pain of dealing with a PC with multiple Parallel and serial ports i'm the bidirectional printer on an 8250 uart
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 14:39 |
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also keep in mind that irqs 1-4 couldn't be assigned to PCI/ISA bus on a lot of boards at the time. so you really didn't have that many.
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 15:07 |
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why did you have to bring up irqs and dma I'm getting flashbacks now
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 15:29 |
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and also those long flimsy cables that connected the cd to the sound card so you could play audio CDs what i don't remember is having to update my drivers every twenty minutes. poo poo either worked or it didn't.
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 15:41 |
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Rosoboronexport posted:I still use Audigy 2 on my desktop -- resampled 48 kHz just sounds better. I have an old xp system that I was given a few years ago that does nothing but serve as an audio passthrough; has an audigy 2 zs (one of the ones with a breakout box). Still works great. e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hE9X8bxbG4
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 15:43 |
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flakeloaf posted:win95 would create braindead conflicts that you had to manually resolve by pawing through device manager to find out which two devices were sharing resources and separate them yourself and then blindly trust that it'd magically get everything else right i used a mac then so i never encountered this but why was win95 so bad at it? it seems like it would be relatively straightforward to list all the devices currently connected and choose a number that isn't taken
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 15:43 |
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devices could share irqs if properly mediated by the OS and most devices were perfectly cool with that idea, but any ISA hardware would absolutely refuse to play nice so you had to go into the bios and manually reserve commonly-used irqs for your old cards to keep windows from trying to share or give them to other things. irq6 might be free but if your card can only do 2, 5, 7 or 10 that's not gonna help e: i don't remember the specifics of how the win95 device manager worked but i remember some misery with desirable irqs not being selectable or something like that flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Nov 7, 2014 |
# ? Nov 7, 2014 15:57 |
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flakeloaf posted:devices could share irqs if properly mediated by the OS and most devices were perfectly cool with that idea, but any ISA hardware would absolutely refuse to play nice so you had to go into the bios and manually reserve commonly used irqs for those to keep windows from giving them to other things interesting flakeloaf posted:irq6 might be free but if your card can only do 2, 5, 7 or 10 that's not gonna help wait is it like scsi id's where a device only has a few options? that's hosed up
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 15:59 |
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:wait is it like scsi id's where a device only has a few options? that's hosed up pretty much also scsi + irq conflicts were rumoured to cause interesting side effects like accidentally overwriting the beginning of your hard drive with data intended for your sound card, but not being a job haver in those days i never had the pleasure
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 16:05 |
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it's really weird to see tori dropping actual non-sql computer knowledge instead of just insulting people
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# ? Nov 7, 2014 16:09 |