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zoux posted:Ultimates Vol. 1&2 and old man Logan own completely. Eh. Never read Old Man Logan but the Ultimates kind of left me cold except for the stuff with Nick Fury.
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I'm a big fan of most of the pre Ultimatium Ultimate universe. USM is back to front the poo poo.
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The Warszawa posted:Yeah but as I understand it the issue is making sure that the money diffuses to the aspects it needs to go to - not like it's getting hung up in bureaucracy, but like making sure kids are nourished and poo poo. The other big issue is segregation, and how we're more segregated in education than when we had the whole hooplah over catholic schools in the 20s.
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My Imaginary GF posted:The other big issue is segregation, and how we're more segregated in education than when we had the whole hooplah over catholic schools in the 20s. Well yeah - but I'm way outside the mainstream on how to fix that. It feeds into typical other dynamics: "why pay for those people to get educated?" zoux posted:I'm a big fan of most of the pre Ultimatium Ultimate universe. USM is back to front the poo poo. Yeah but that's Bendis, who has an incredible record for how prolific he is. Also Nick Fury interacting with 616 Peter Parker and being told that his counterpart is white and he's like "Poor guy."
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Nov 7, 2014 23:17
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My Imaginary GF posted:The other big issue is segregation, and how we're more segregated in education than when we had the whole hooplah over catholic schools in the 20s. What was the thing in the 20s? Did the infidels try to outgroup the Catholics and failed miserably due to Catholicism's long history in favor of education?
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Nov 7, 2014 23:21
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Randler translate literally the word: rotzbremse
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The Warszawa posted:Yep this is 100% true. it's my favorite because of what it suggests lex is evil because lex intelligently works out how to optimally engineer the system, builds devices that elevate himself above his fellow man, behaves like morality is a thing that can be reasoned, thought about, understood. he sees the world worshiping this godling on the basis simply that he's got godlike powers and this enrages him, and that's obviously a bad thing. he constantly crows about might making right, except, uh, might visibly is making right, the world repeatedly beats it into his skull via space freak. superman is Good because he was Raised Right and the American Way. no one ever asks how lucky we got that he happened to land among one of the many progressive and tolerant kansas farmers (lol). red son goes into this but it doesn't go nearly far enough, no one ever asks what happens if he lands ten acres down the road with the freepers who teach him to heat vision abortion clinics. he's Right not because he's mighty (despite this being the exclusive method he demonstrates how he's Right) but because he was taught Right from Wrong. he gets godhood handed to him on a silver platter, but lets not examine that, sometimes some people are obviously just better, right? it's their moral obligation to use their advantages to show those loving criminals who's boss. the government lines up behind him, he literally cannot respect the privacy or dignity of any other creature on the planet, but it's okay, he's only using the fact he can monitor every human being on the planet at all times for Good. and we're all lucky he's here because he Saves the World and we had better loving not question it because maybe he'll stop huh? sure, one robs banks and one punches darkseid. but is a world that lets superman get away with this poo poo worth saving? the smartest guy on the planet is screaming "help me, help me, the world is wrong" and he can't fix it but he'll sure build radioactive turtle monsters to try, and god bless him for trying.
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The Warszawa posted:well more "yeah it's bad poo poo but whether it was illegal or not is a big loving question mark and settlement is not 'oh please hammer don't hurt us, love the sec' but resource and cost-benefit based and actually settlements in the amounts being levied are probably the best possible outcome on the framework." I realize I'm a bit late to this, but I think you're misrepresenting Taibbi's arguments somewhat. I've just read The Divide, and he confronts a lot of your points in a very fair way (from about page 405 til the end of the book, if you're curious). He doesn't argue that the DOJ or SEC are in the pocket of banks or anything like that, he confronts the exact same arguments you're making; that, given cost constraints and potential outcomes, the settlements are the best option. While he concedes that all of this is true, he also argues that huge banks should be prosecuted anyway, even if there is very little chance of success. As he puts it, "There's value even in trying and losing sometimes. It's not as tangible as a billion dollars, but it's real enough." Now, while you can argue over whether or not that's a bunch of bullshit, he certainly isn't accusing regulatory agencies of outright corruption. Basically, while he concedes that it is pretty much impossible for the SEC and other regulatory agencies to win huge fraud cases at current levels of funding and staffing, he also argues that they should do it anyway, because at least that's something for gently caress's sake.
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Randler posted:What was the thing in the 20s? Did the infidels try to outgroup the Catholics and failed miserably due to Catholicism's long history in favor of education? Can't find video on it, but: http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4456619/culture-society-1920s quote:NOW THE POLITICS OF THE UNITED STATES DEFINITELY VEERED TO THE RIGHT DURING THE 1920s. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE ONES WERE ELECTEDLY LANDSLIDES, 1920, 1924, AND 1928. CONGRESS WAS UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE REPUBLICANS THROUGHOUT THE 1920s. WITHIN SUPPORT OF CONGRESS, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS SIGNED BILLS WHICH ROLLED BACK THE INCOME TAX INCREASES THAT WERE PASSED DURING WORLD WAR I. AND THE LEADING SOCIAL MOVEMENTS ON THE LEFT, LABOR UNIONS AND THE SOCIALIST PARTY, BOTH LOST MEMBERS DURING THE WAR. IN FACT, THE SOCIALIST PARTY WAS NEVER REALLY A FACTOR IN AMERICAN POLITICS AGAIN AFTER THE 1920 ELECTION. So yeah, a lot of similarities to how America is today.
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CoolCab posted:it's my favorite because of what it suggests Actually the smartest guy is screaming 'I JUST CURED MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY BUT I'M GOING TO INFLATE THE PRICE AND STRETCH OUT THE TREATMENTS BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE ME EVEN MORE MONEY" Man being Superman must suck balls. I mean, you're pretty much aware of every bad thing happening in the world, and you do actually have the power to stop it. But the bad things are happening all the time. Stopping the robot rampaging in an American city means some African village gets genocided. Stopping an asteroid from destroying all life as we know it means that Luthor arms shipment goes through. And so on, every single day. How does he even sleep, nevermind having any sort of personal life at all. It's a miracle he doesn't kill everyone who disagrees with him or second guesses him really.
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The Warszawa posted:Didn't see Man of Steel, think Superman is loving boring. terminator is the better reinterpretation of the christ story
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paragon1 posted:Actually the smartest guy is screaming 'I JUST CURED MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY BUT I'M GOING TO INFLATE THE PRICE AND STRETCH OUT THE TREATMENTS BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE ME EVEN MORE MONEY" 
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My Imaginary GF posted:Can't find video on it, but: The quote is shouting it as loud as he can in all caps rofl
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Foppery posted:I realize I'm a bit late to this, but I think you're misrepresenting Taibbi's arguments somewhat. I've just read The Divide, and he confronts a lot of your points in a very fair way (from about page 405 til the end of the book, if you're curious). He doesn't argue that the DOJ or SEC are in the pocket of banks or anything like that, he confronts the exact same arguments you're making; that, given cost constraints and potential outcomes, the settlements are the best option. While he concedes that all of this is true, he also argues that huge banks should be prosecuted anyway, even if there is very little chance of success. As he puts it, "There's value even in trying and losing sometimes. It's not as tangible as a billion dollars, but it's real enough." Now, while you can argue over whether or not that's a bunch of bullshit, he certainly isn't accusing regulatory agencies of outright corruption. The Divide is still on my list - I'm abstracting Taibbi's positions from his writing (mostly in Rolling Stone) - so I should really have made the caveat that I was using what I believed to be a representative sample of his writing, but I would say that a lot of his Rolling Stone articles do make the argument that the government is in the pocket of banks (like this article on Mary Jo White). And I think "Well, yeah, maybe you made the optimal decision but tilt at windmills, guys" is a really weak argument when it comes to legal ethics and prosecution. The DOJ/SEC rightly, in my opinion, prioritizes getting some actual outcome than flashily getting nothing. CoolCab posted:it's my favorite because of what it suggests Superman is the tyranny of Good Ol' American Heartland Values, Lex is the representative of advancement that only the revolutionary deviant can be.
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zoux posted:Randler translate literally the word: rotzbremse Snot break
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paragon1 posted:Actually the smartest guy is screaming 'I JUST CURED MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY BUT I'M GOING TO INFLATE THE PRICE AND STRETCH OUT THE TREATMENTS BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE ME EVEN MORE MONEY" he didn't invent capitalism. can we really blame the smartest man in the world for optimizing his performance in the system we created for him to play with? in fact, the only way he could correct this system is violent revolution, and when he tries that we throw his rear end in jail. loving people over via pharmaceuticals is perfectly legal; in fact, he's applauded for it. attempting to replace that system is super villainy. quote:Man being Superman must suck balls. I mean, you're pretty much aware of every bad thing happening in the world, and you do actually have the power to stop it. But the bad things are happening all the time. Stopping the robot rampaging in an American city means some African village gets genocided. Stopping an asteroid from destroying all life as we know it means that Luthor arms shipment goes through. And so on, every single day. How does he even sleep, nevermind having any sort of personal life at all. It's a miracle he doesn't kill everyone who disagrees with him or second guesses him really. and yet he somehow always chooses to stop the robot, that's funny huh? the only affiliation he has with america is some accident of interplanetary geography and yet he spends all his time making it even greater to be rich and white. boo hoo, the one guy on the planet who can shower without being watched is so oppressed. he's aware of trillions of other worlds, many of which he can go to. he chooses to live here with us mortals, he chooses to do what he does and as importantly, he chooses to not do what he doesn't. poor superman, suffering as he does under the kryptonian burden to bring peace and civilization to our backwards planet, enforcing his will and morality on us but hey, if we fail to suck up to him, he'll allow us all to be violently murdered. that's a healthy power structure, right? he's not threatening to kill us, he's just saying hey, behave in a way I like or you'll all happen to be killed. we should all thank superman, and continue to jail and oppress the one guy who credibly could do everything superman does, could stop every asteroid and galactic rear end in a top hat who wants to hurt us, who strives to even the impossible gap between us and it with technology and intelligence and will. giving power to the powerless; can't have that! he's the villain. obviously. CoolCab fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Nov 8, 2014 |
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Why would anyone hate or complain about SMG? I have enjoyed every one of his posts. Do you guys remember the alternate universe from the Justice League cartoon where Lex kills the Flash, causing Superman to finally snap and murder/lobotomize all of the villains and lead the Justice League in creating the ultimate totalitarian utopia?
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Nov 8, 2014 00:40
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are there any good vidya games out these days?
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Setting aside tedious nerdy politics games, the doody was dropped on Tuesday. If you enjoy third wave feminism taken to its (il)logical extreme by people that are most assuredly not feminists, bayonetta got a sequel. Topically, I believe another Arkham game is in the works
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R. Mute posted:are there any good vidya games out these days?
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R. Mute posted:are there any good vidya games out these days? http://runescape.com/
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visceril posted:Setting aside tedious nerdy politics games, the doody was dropped on Tuesday. If you enjoy third wave feminism taken to its (il)logical extreme by people that are most assuredly not feminists, bayonetta got a sequel. Yeah I'm pretty stoked for it.
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He's so not progressive but I loving loves me some batmans. i love the villains, I love the batman, I love the setting, I love the stories, i loving love batman, yo!
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visceril posted:He's so not progressive but I loving loves me some batmans. i love the villains, I love the batman, I love the setting, I love the stories, i loving love batman, yo! this.
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R. Mute posted:are there any good vidya games out these days? Some, yes. But you probably want to ask again in a few weeks when the big sales start.
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R. Mute posted:are there any good vidya games out these days? e: i can't spel
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If you liked the combat in the Batman games The Shadow of Mordor is really good. Someone on SA recommended Rimworld, and it was fun for a playthrough. I started Wasteland 2 and Divinity: Original Sin but, while they're good, I don't think I have the time for those kind of games anymore.
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visceril posted:He's so not progressive but I loving loves me some batmans. i love the villains, I love the batman, I love the setting, I love the stories, i loving love batman, yo! Frank Miller is a gigantic rear end in a top hat is just about every way, but if you can't enjoy The Dark Knight Returns they you've no business reading comics.
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The nemesis system is where the orc captains can run away and if they successfully escape you they get stronger, right? I really like that feature and agree that every game moving forward should have it.
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Batman's politics vary more widely from author to author than Superman's. Many depictions have Wayne actively tackling the socioeconomic and structural causes of crime/powerty during his day job. The problem is that a)that's not as interesting for some of the target demo for comics, and b) several of the best known batman renditions have been the edgy, reductive, shallow "Oh man, batman's a fascist with mommy issues stuff". The Warszawa posted:Well yeah - but I'm way outside the mainstream on how to fix that. Quick question on this- would a bussing program based entirely on microlocal income levels be constitutional?
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Discendo Vox posted:Quick question on this- would a bussing program based entirely on microlocal income levels be constitutional? Only when charter schools do it.
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visceril posted:He's so not progressive but I loving loves me some batmans. i love the villains, I love the batman, I love the setting, I love the stories, i loving love batman, yo! the first arkham game was okay but i got really bored after five minutes with the two sequels
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Berke Negri posted:is that new not-alpha centauri game good or wait for patches? I hear mixed things. On the other hand, alpha centauri itself holds up beautifully.
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Discendo Vox posted:Quick question on this- would a bussing program based entirely on microlocal income levels be constitutional? yes because wcpss has had it in one form or another since the 70s
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Berke Negri posted:is that new not-alpha centauri game good or wait for patches?
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SMG is annoying. I don't care how much of Zizek's cock he shoved down his throat, but he keeps describing the event in detail with every post he makes.
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