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marktheando posted:Talking about Seb, someone who saw an early screening said the revelation of who he was would blow your mind. But he was just a computer interface right? What did he say before he squeed? "Permission to Squee?" Seb was fandom.
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DoctorWhat posted:"Permission to Squee?" I thought it was pretty funny The Master blew him up immediately for it too.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:12
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RBA Starblade posted:I thought it was pretty funny The Master blew him up immediately for it too. Basically everything that Missy did was goddamn hysterical (except for murdering Osgood, and everything LEADING to that was pretty funny too). I really really hope Moffat pulls through and Missy pulls an Ainley.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:17
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RBA Starblade posted:I thought it was pretty funny The Master blew him up immediately for it too. She vaped Osgood the cosplayer too. She clearly doesn't think much of the fans.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:19
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surc posted:
I'd have to disagree with this statement, but only out of personal enjoyment. I only found one episode meh - the moon egg one, and only one that was bad - the forest in London. I liked more of this season than I have since Smith's 1st one.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:20
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Barry Foster posted:She vaped Osgood the cosplayer too. She clearly doesn't think much of the fans. That's why she's good.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:21
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Moffat really loves insulting his fans, eh
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Nov 9, 2014 21:22
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Moffat really loves insulting his fans, eh What fan of Doctor Who would be insulted by getting killed by the Master?
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Nov 9, 2014 21:24
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Well yeah I got that he was fandom from the squeeing, just assumed there had to be more to it since it was meant to be mind blowing. I guess some people's minds get blown very easily.thexerox123 posted:What fan of Doctor Who would be insulted by getting killed by the Master? Depends on which one, I'd be insulted to get killed by Eric Roberts.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:26
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Moffat really loves insulting his fans, eh Considering the fan base, its well deserved.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:30
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marktheando posted:Well yeah I got that he was fandom from the squeeing, just assumed there had to be more to it since it was meant to be mind blowing. I guess some people's minds get blown very easily. That mind-blowing thing was probably just hype. No one was ever going to say "when you find out Seb's true nature, you'll go 'eh, whatever'". Also literally nothing else about the character suggested he was a metaphor for fandom or anything else. (If I'm wrong about this, please by all means give me examples.) Sometimes a squee is just a squee.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:31
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marktheando posted:Depends on which one, I'd be insulted to get killed by Eric Roberts. Rest assured that he would dreeeezzzz for the occasion.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:39
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marktheando posted:Well yeah I got that he was fandom from the squeeing, just assumed there had to be more to it since it was meant to be mind blowing. I guess some people's minds get blown very easily. And if they watched Love and Monsters
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Nov 9, 2014 21:41
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Spikeguy posted:I'd have to disagree with this statement, but only out of personal enjoyment. I only found one episode meh - the moon egg one, and only one that was bad - the forest in London. I liked more of this season than I have since Smith's 1st one. Aside from the two great episodes by the new guy in the middle of the season I think pretty much every episode had ranged from 'ok at best' to 'terrible shite', the most egregiously bad ones being the opener, the moon egg one, and the forest one.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:42
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Spikeguy posted:I'd have to disagree with this statement, but only out of personal enjoyment. I only found one episode meh - the moon egg one, and only one that was bad - the forest in London. I liked more of this season than I have since Smith's 1st one. Yeah I agree, overall I thought this was the best season since the revival's fifth (though that may be damning with faint praise...). Flatline must easily rank amongst my top ten of the revival. I really hope Gomez comes back. Her Master is a great counter to Capaldi's Doctor (I noted they played up her Scottish accent this episode) and I'd very happy to see her as a recurring villain.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:48
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On the whole, this was probably a little better than the previous station, i think.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:49
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The problem with the Osgood death is that it's crassly manipulative. They wanted an established character to die to make the Master a serious threat but they weren't willing to do it to anyone actually "important" because they might need them in future. Danny wasn't important either, he was introduced in the season so he could die in the season. Everything about him was just designed to calibrate his death to the level of emotionality they desired. If they really wanted to up the stakes they would for real kill Clara, or Kate. Be bold, not just killing unimportant ancillary characters and actually make a commitment and unexpectedly and permanently kill a person no one expects. They wanted to have their cake and eat it and it annoys me.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:50
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Lipset and Rock On posted:Yeah I agree, overall I thought this was the best season since the revival's fifth (though that may be damning with faint praise...). Yeah pretty much. Series 6 and 7 were so bad, that this pretty ok series seems great in comparison.
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Nov 9, 2014 21:51
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Okay, okay, I watched ALL OF THAT and it left me with one single question: In the Doctor's flashback to Rusty telling him he would make a good Dalek, Rusty's voiceover was labeled on the BBC iPlayer captions as "Davros." Was there, uh... Was there a reason for that? Because I think at this point, anything goes.
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Nov 9, 2014 22:06
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Ratspeaker posted:Okay, okay, I watched ALL OF THAT and it left me with one single question: Yeah, they fired the guy who did all the good captions.
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Nov 9, 2014 22:11
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DoctorWhat posted:"Permission to Squee?" Permission DENIED. 
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Nov 9, 2014 22:20
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Metal Loaf posted:Rest assured that he would dreeeezzzz for the occasion. Well, it could be worse. You could be the Asian Child.
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Nov 9, 2014 22:35
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Xachariah posted:If they really wanted to up the stakes they would for real kill Clara, or Kate. Be bold, not just killing unimportant ancillary characters and actually make a commitment and unexpectedly and permanently kill a person no one expects. I expect that for most nuwho fans, cute nerdy asthma girl is as important as Kate, maybe more important.
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Nov 9, 2014 23:03
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Angela Christine posted:I expect that for most nuwho fans, cute nerdy asthma girl is as important as Kate, maybe more important. I don't really care for either of them. But Kate's existence was a better tribute to her dad than loving CyberBrig.
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Nov 9, 2014 23:06
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MrL_JaKiri posted:They have intelligent computers in the Doctor Who universe Nobody will believe me when I tell them that Seb is WOTAN  You just watch, the Master's coming back with an army of War Machines behind her!
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Nov 9, 2014 23:11
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I would also like to say I hope they do that "overlay current Doctor's theme with previous Doctor's theme" thing they did once a Doctor from here on out. For every Doctor, but only once.
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Nov 9, 2014 23:12
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I figured the beginning of the two-parter would answer the whole "we're gonna do something about Fires of Pompeii!!" but boy was I wrong. 
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Aurora posted:I figured the beginning of the two-parter would answer the whole "we're gonna do something about Fires of Pompeii!!" but boy was I wrong. When are they answer the whole "we're gonna do something about Arc of Infinity", that's what I want to know
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Nov 9, 2014 23:24
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PriorMarcus posted:I don't really care for either of them. But Kate's existence was a better tribute to her dad than loving CyberBrig. For new fans, Brig is just some guy from the Doctor's distant past who they don't care about at all. Kate is a bossy lady they are supposed to care about because she's related to that guy they don't care about. UNIT is just not-evil Torchwood, it isn't a uniquely important organization to them. For those fans, having Kate die wouldn't mean much at all.
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Nov 9, 2014 23:32
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Angela Christine posted:For new fans, Brig is just some guy from the Doctor's distant past who they don't care about at all. Kate is a bossy lady they are supposed to care about because she's related to that guy they don't care about. UNIT is just not-evil Torchwood, it isn't a uniquely important organization to them. Harkness' Torchwood isn't evil either. UNIT is alien-researching military, Torchwood is alien-researching secret service. Why they seem to be working completely past each other is one of the many mysteries of Doctor Who. Well, okay, Martha worked for both. Carbon dioxide fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Nov 9, 2014 |
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Nov 9, 2014 23:35
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Carbon dioxide posted:Harkness' Torchwood isn't evil either. UNIT is alien-researching military, Torchwood is alien-researching secret service. Why they seem to be working completely past each other is one of the many mysteries of Doctor Who. That sounds pretty realistic actually
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Nov 9, 2014 23:42
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MrL_JaKiri posted:When are they answer the whole "we're gonna do something about Arc of Infinity", that's what I want to know It's too late for the BBC to fire up the incinerator.
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To me, a new fan, UNIT seems like XCOM if XCOM never did anything ever.
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RBA Starblade posted:To me, a new fan, UNIT seems like XCOM if XCOM never did anything ever. Oh, so it's like when I play XCOM
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Carbon dioxide posted:Harkness' Torchwood isn't evil either. UNIT is alien-researching military, Torchwood is alien-researching secret service. Why they seem to be working completely past each other is one of the many mysteries of Doctor Who. Well, okay, Martha worked for both. Eh, Harkness' Torchwood is barely Torchwood at all anymore, it's just a single small field office. The evil huge national program was destroyed.
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DoctorWhat posted:Basically everything that Missy did was goddamn hysterical (except for murdering Osgood, and everything LEADING to that was pretty funny too). I liked Osgood, but I did laugh all the way through the process. The little teasing, bullying torment, the heartless handwave of her plea to continue living, and then, after vaporizing her, stomping on her glasses. The Master just did everything so gleefully that it was darkly contagious. I agree that I hope she comes back, she'd probably bolster a weak story to being tolerable and a good story to being great. I'm surprised to see so many people hated this season or even thought it was it mediocre. I definitely disagree! I think it was my favorite season since season 5. The first few episodes were a bit weak in that they expected us to work on information from future episode with regard to the Doctor and Clara's relationship, which just left it feeling a bit uncomfortable, and they were awkwardly paced in a similar to way to the back half of season 7. After that, it picked up a little though, and dealt with the Doctor's identity crisis and made him question himself in a way that they haven't since before the Tenth Doctor. I think Clara's departure, in which she lies to the Doctor to spare his feelings, is her final statement of independence and equality. She enjoyed traveling with him, but she needs to be her own person. I hope they don't ruin it too much in the Christmas special. I hope Season 9 is a little less dark and that the new companion (I assume there will be a new one after Christmas, anyway), gets along with the Doctor a bit better, though.
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pointlessly bringing back a character who already had a touching send off that ended their story nicely. And actually the new addition is kind of horrific when you think about it. Moffat just did a Rose to the brigadier
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Nov 10, 2014 00:43
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I think the only thing that would make the Cyber Brigadier okay for me is if he got his own CyberUNIT and went around saving planets.
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Nov 10, 2014 00:48
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Loved Gomez as the Master, I will be so sad if she doesn't return. On the other hand, parts of this episode were so clunky I kept waiting for the title card "CYBER-DANNY AND CYBER-BRIGADIER DIED ON THE WAY TO THEIR HOME PLANET"
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I don't know, I feel that doing anything with the Brig is really the equivalent of digging up Liz and propping her up in a chair for a cameo. He's done. You paid respects now be respectful.
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