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Bottom Liner posted:Yup, iTunes and iOS8 have a syncing problem where the songs are on your phone, but greyed out in the music app, therefor taking up "Other" and being unplayable. The only option is to sync over and over until it works (yeah it loving sucks). I don't understand how Apple lets this happen. 76GB of "Other" isn't acceptable. Why offer a 128GB phone if your locked-down method of file management is something your only syncing method literally cannot handle? I've always been pretty ecosystem-agnostic (I use Android and iOS devices rather interchangeably because, if you're mainly using Goggle services and manual media management, switching devices is just a matter of swapping the SIM out) but this is really making me lean towards getting a Nexus 6 and selling this thing. I have a 1.5hr one-way commute three days a week and having my music at hand is about the only thing that prevents me from ending up on the news. And no, I have zero interest in any streaming services and iTunes Match/Cloud blows, it has never worked great due to dead zones on my commute. Goddammit.
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It is indeed a pile of horseshit, but that's iTunes for ya.
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Nov 10, 2014 16:59
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I haven't done it with iOS 8 so can't say if it will help, but under iOS 7 when I did a restore of my iPhone all my music would be categorized as "other" until I fired up the 'iTunes Store' app and did something that required me to type in my password.
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smr posted:I don't understand how Apple lets this happen. 76GB of "Other" isn't acceptable. Why offer a 128GB phone if your locked-down method of file management is something your only syncing method literally cannot handle? I've always been pretty ecosystem-agnostic (I use Android and iOS devices rather interchangeably because, if you're mainly using Goggle services and manual media management, switching devices is just a matter of swapping the SIM out) but this is really making me lean towards getting a Nexus 6 and selling this thing. I have a 1.5hr one-way commute three days a week and having my music at hand is about the only thing that prevents me from ending up on the news. And no, I have zero interest in any streaming services and iTunes Match/Cloud blows, it has never worked great due to dead zones on my commute. Yeah, a wipe/reset seemed to make syncing better for me, but I'm assuming it's just a matter of time before it all goes south again. (also part of the bigass phone/capacity krew) 
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Nov 10, 2014 17:41
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Im getting my verizon 6+ in the mail today. Anything special I need to know about setting up or activating it? Also my 5 is still on ios7. Am i going to have to update it to 8 in order to use the backup to setup my new phone?
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Nov 10, 2014 17:44
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Have any other iPhone 6+ owners noticed some weirdness to scrolling in apps? This doesn't seem to happen all of the time, but I will notice if I am scrolling with my finger and just hold my finger in place it will start to jitter up and down by like 10 pixels, like it doesn't realize my finger is in one place. When this happens if I scrub my finger up and down to scroll the phone will eventually just forget that I was scrolling at all and wont recognize any input until I lift up my finger and try again. Like I said it doesn't happen all of the time, otherwise I would have already taken it in to be replaced. I don't want to bring it in and not be able to show them what's happening and wind up wasting my time.
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Nov 10, 2014 18:05
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Tora Tora Torrents posted:Have any other iPhone 6+ owners noticed some weirdness to scrolling in apps? This doesn't seem to happen all of the time, but I will notice if I am scrolling with my finger and just hold my finger in place it will start to jitter up and down by like 10 pixels, like it doesn't realize my finger is in one place. When this happens if I scrub my finger up and down to scroll the phone will eventually just forget that I was scrolling at all and wont recognize any input until I lift up my finger and try again. Like I said it doesn't happen all of the time, otherwise I would have already taken it in to be replaced. I don't want to bring it in and not be able to show them what's happening and wind up wasting my time. Used to happen in the App Store for me constantly. Haven't seen it recently anywhere. Try it there.
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Keystoned posted:Also my 5 is still on ios7. Am i going to have to update it to 8 in order to use the backup to setup my new phone? My 4 was still on ios6 and it backed up and restored to my 6+ with no problems.
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Maneki Neko posted:Yeah, a wipe/reset seemed to make syncing better for me, but I'm assuming it's just a matter of time before it all goes south again. (also part of the bigass phone/capacity krew) Man, I do not want to lose my Two Dots progress
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Nov 10, 2014 18:58
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What I ended up doing, (which was flaky at first, but has stabilized) is this: Get some kind of iPhone file browser. On Mac, I used PhoneBrowse. Delete all the mp3s from the phone. Delete iTunes_Control/iTunes/MediaLibrary.sqlitedb Resync your phone. You may have to make a new playlist to make it see that the media isn't right. I had it sync a new video file, and then it found it wasn't synced with the music. The "Other" disappeared after this. Now about a day or two went by where it wasn't syncing properly. However, after that (I was waiting to getting around to rebuild my iTunes library on my Mac, and procrastinating on that) it did another 1,000+ song sync again, and it's been fine again. I'm not sure what caused that second sync, but it's been fixed since. I've also turned off wifi sync just in case too. Sometimes I still get a "Waiting for changes to apply", but after a minute or two it finishes. My last sync was done in seconds.
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Nov 10, 2014 19:22
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Armchair Calvinist posted:My iPhone 6+ arrives Tuesday and I have yet to think of a good case. I loved my 5 otterbox defender. But the amazon reviews are reporting that the screen protector for the 6+ one is hosed up and doesn't lay flush. Gonna get AppleCare+ and hold off on a Defender for a few months in hope they unfuck it.
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Nov 10, 2014 20:33
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During the OSX beta, a common itunes 12 bug was the inability to properly sync items on playlists (music or podcasts). There really was no fix I found (although I didn't go as far as IUG) other than eventually the sync just took. It still seems to be a problem here and there, fortunately much less often for me, not so much for you. Have you tried: just unchecking the playlists, syncing some items through other means (like, sync all items from an album, or something of that nature), and then resyncing the playlist after some of the music on there successfully syncs?
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Nov 10, 2014 21:23
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Is there some sort of bug with location based reminders with either the 6 series or iOS 8? I set a lot of reminders for when I get home and this worked great on my 5S. Now, with my Plus it seems to trip way, way off. Sometimes miles away. Anyone else seeing this?
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Nov 10, 2014 23:18
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Tora Tora Torrents posted:Have any other iPhone 6+ owners noticed some weirdness to scrolling in apps? This doesn't seem to happen all of the time, but I will notice if I am scrolling with my finger and just hold my finger in place it will start to jitter up and down by like 10 pixels, like it doesn't realize my finger is in one place. When this happens if I scrub my finger up and down to scroll the phone will eventually just forget that I was scrolling at all and wont recognize any input until I lift up my finger and try again. Like I said it doesn't happen all of the time, otherwise I would have already taken it in to be replaced. I don't want to bring it in and not be able to show them what's happening and wind up wasting my time. I remember someone mentioning many pages ago that this might be something to do with the way the 6+ scales old apps. Does it happen in old apps that haven't been updated to support the higher resolutions, or does it happen in any app or an updated app? I do remember this happening when I had a 6+ sometimes, but I returned that thing for a 6 because it was way too big for me. (TWSS)
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Nov 11, 2014 01:02
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I've seen it happen in updated apps like Twitter and Instagram.
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Nov 11, 2014 03:48
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Would Hue's widget really add significant battery drain? It says 7% (of a 6+ battery) since last night or whatever. I've launched the app like once to turn some lights on.
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Nov 11, 2014 04:54
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Welp it finally happened. Had an iPhone 5 since they came out and it has stayed in pristine condition without a case this whole time. Today my luck ran out. It slipped out of my pocket as I got in the car and then I proceeded to run it over.  So I was looking for a new phone, and I am eligible for an upgrade. Its trying to get me to do this payment plan thing for the 6 at 21$ a month for 30 months (650$). Is there a better/cheaper way to do this? We have had a family contract with ATT since our first cell phones so there must be some way to not get hosed for 650?
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Nov 11, 2014 05:59
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AT&T *should* let you use a subsidy, but those are really going the way of the dodo. Depending on the amount of data in your plan, it should also drop your monthly access charge by $15-25, so it may actually come out in your favor vs. paying $200 up front.
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Nov 11, 2014 06:10
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Endless Mike posted:AT&T *should* let you use a subsidy, but those are really going the way of the dodo. Depending on the amount of data in your plan, it should also drop your monthly access charge by $15-25, so it may actually come out in your favor vs. paying $200 up front. I wish any of what you said made sense to me.
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Nov 11, 2014 06:14
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AT&T has changed the way they do smart phones. You buy a data plan (they all have unlimited talk and text), and you buy a phone. If you but the phone with a subsidy price, you pay $200/whatever up front, and you have an additional $25/month added on to your bill. If you buy the phone via AT&T Next, you get an extra discount ($15-$25), but you pay the monthly payment for the phone. You also don't have to pay an activation fee, but you do have to pay for the full sales tax (which is more than the $40 activation). If you buy the phone outright, you don't get the discount but you also don't pay the extra $25/month from the subsidy pricing. It all comes out about the same, but it's pretty lovely that no matter how you do it, you're paying more now than before if you were getting a subsidy priced phone before the monthly fee. Offsetting the subsidy pricing with the $25 a month fee is loving bullshit. My iPhone 5 was $200 with a 2 year contract, and my monthly bill was $67. Now, no matter which option I choose above, my monthly average is going to be around $90-100. Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Nov 11, 2014 |
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Nov 11, 2014 06:22
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Bottom Liner posted:It all comes out about the same, but it's pretty lovely that no matter how you do it, you're paying more now than before if you were getting a subsidy priced phone before the monthly fee. Offsetting the subsidy pricing with the $25 a month fee is loving bullshit. Maybe I'm misunderstanding it but under the new method you'll never pay more than what the phone is worth, which you would be doing if you had a phone under the old subsidized contracts, right?
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Nov 11, 2014 06:27
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No, over the 2 years of having my 5, I paid AT&T a total of $1,848 for the device, activation, and monthly bills. Over the next two years I will pay $2,328 for a device of equal value and the same service. That's a big difference.
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Nov 11, 2014 06:32
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Wow that sounds awful. I have the original AT&T unlimited plan with a $10/mo texting plan (goddamn green bubble friends) and an ancient college discount, for a total of $70/mo. I paid $300 for a 64 Gb iPhone 6 and a $40 upgrade fee. I had no idea modern plans were so bad.
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Nov 11, 2014 07:24
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Bottom Liner posted:AT&T has changed the way they do smart phones. You buy a data plan (they all have unlimited talk and text), and you buy a phone. Not sure this is entirely correct. When Next was introduced my family plan took on no more additional charges and once we all switched over to next we now take a full discount of $125 per month. The $25 "extra" per month was already being paid since forever, and after the switch is now gone. And thanks to October's extra data everyone is saving a grip and has more data than ever before.
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Nov 11, 2014 07:39
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So, how do you upgrade your phone on Next if it's within the time limit you chose? Do you send the phone back? Do you still owe the full price of the phone if you buy another (meaning you'll owe the full price of two phones)?
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Nov 11, 2014 08:48
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noirstronaut posted:So, how do you upgrade your phone on Next if it's within the time limit you chose? Do you send the phone back? Do you still owe the full price of the phone if you buy another (meaning you'll owe the full price of two phones)? You can get a Next phone anytime you want. It's yours, you pay a 0% loan back to ATT basically. The Next price is the retail price of the phone over 18 or 24 months. If you get another phone you pay both until the allotted payments are finished. You can pay it off and keep it forever or do some sort of trade at some point(unclear on this).
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:You can get a Next phone anytime you want. It's yours, you pay a 0% loan back to ATT basically. The Next price is the retail price of the phone over 18 or 24 months. If you get another phone you pay both until the allotted payments are finished. You can pay it off and keep it forever or do some sort of trade at some point(unclear on this). My thing is that a new iPhone comes out roughly every 12 months. If I want to buy one iPhone, the next, and so on, would there be a 6 month period wherein I'm paying off the old phone and then the new one as well or is there something AT&T does to relieve that burden?
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Nov 11, 2014 08:58
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You could pay off the old phone and sell it. If it's 18 payments total you'd have $216 left to pay off on a 16gb phone and you could easily sell it for more than that.
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noirstronaut posted:My thing is that a new iPhone comes out roughly every 12 months. If I want to buy one iPhone, the next, and so on, would there be a 6 month period wherein I'm paying off the old phone and then the new one as well or is there something AT&T does to relieve that burden? There are AT&T Next 12/18/24 plans.
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I'm selling my 5S 64gb in SA mart if you want to avoid ATT shenanigans.
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Not sure this is entirely correct. When Next was introduced my family plan took on no more additional charges and once we all switched over to next we now take a full discount of $125 per month. The $25 "extra" per month was already being paid since forever, and after the switch is now gone. And thanks to October's extra data everyone is saving a grip and has more data than ever before. It's literally as simple as mileage will vary based on what the old vs new plan were. Some people saved, some people didn't. And to also keep it simple: people on old plans should usually do two year contract (still able to do them), people on the new shared plans should do Next.
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Another thing in ios8 that didn't exist before that I find undesirable is how when I launch Safari it (often, not always) shows a cached image of a webpage I looked at like s month ago for a split second then shows the right webpage. The gently caress is that about?
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goodness posted:I wish any of what you said made sense to me. I would recommend you go to the AT&T thread and post your plan and have the people there help you through it. You might find yourself spending less money for the same or better service while not being stuck on a contract.
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I think it simply comes down to: do you still have the old grandfathered unlimited data plan? If you do, you're almost always better off staying with 2 year contracts. Anything else will probably be better switching to Next.
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Even then it sucks, because renewing a 2 year contract with a subsidy priced phone adds the new $25 a month charge that's not on Next plans or if you bring your own phone. That's what happened to me, I had no option of getting a new phone without paying more per month.
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Nov 11, 2014 18:09
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Oh. So gently caress ATT then.
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Feenix posted:Another thing in ios8 that didn't exist before that I find undesirable is how when I launch Safari it (often, not always) shows a cached image of a webpage I looked at like s month ago for a split second then shows the right webpage. The gently caress is that about? I've been seeing a lot of week old tabs flicker in and disappear when I rotate to landscape. That was a little jarring when it first happened. Happy Noodle Boy posted:Oh. So gently caress ATT then. always
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Bummey posted:I've been seeing a lot of week old tabs flicker in and disappear when I rotate to landscape. That was a little jarring when it first happened. Yep. It is really odd and annoying.
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I just realized that regardless of the security I have on my phone (Passcode and Touch ID), it's possible for someone to simply pick it up, hold down the power button, and then shut it off. Takes about five seconds, after which Find my Phone is completely worthless in a "find my poo poo now before they get too far away" kind of way. Because of that, shouldn't powering off be something that requires a passcode? Is this an option I just haven't found yet?
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