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Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Skeezy posted:

Oh yeah I know. I'm listening to it now actually.

I wasn't the biggest fan of Black Flag, but goddamn thinking back the shanties were my favourite thing in that whole game. Spanish Ladies is the loving best.

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Pork Pie Hat
Apr 27, 2011

Skeezy posted:

Oh yeah I know. I'm listening to it now actually.

Excellent. I like the cut of your jib, sir/madam.

Sighence
Aug 26, 2009

How extensive is the co-op? Full storyline with SP/coop option or the weirdass partial coop system Blacklist used?

Npro God
Jul 14, 2007
So....dumb question: is there an option in the main menu to quit the game? Or do I just go ahead and power down my PS4 with it still running?

Doodles
Apr 14, 2001
99.9999% of the time, I couldn't give two shits what Neogaf says, but goddamn if the best comment on this game was the second post in their thread:

quote:

I hope the Metacritic score matches the framerate.

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Ubisoft really hates optimizing for the PC don't they.

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

Sandweed posted:

Ubisoft really hates optimizing

That's better.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009



There you go

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Sandweed posted:

Ubisoft really hates optimizing for the PC don't they.

To be honest its sort of surprising since Black Flag worked pretty dang well right out of the box on PC. Guess that team was busy doing something else at the time.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005
So I'm a huge fan of the Assassin's Creed series...loved the Ezio trilogy, loved Black Flag, even liked AC3 because hell, it was Assassin's Creed during the Revolution and I'm a huge history nerd. These games are usually day 1 purchases for me.

However, reading the system requirements for Unity and hearing all the trouble everyone's having, should I skip it for the time being? I want to get it for PC and I'm pretty sure my rig will have a SHITLOAD of trouble running it, but it's Assassin's Creed and I have a hard time saying no.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


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Offensive Clock
I can report that I'm having fun in the game with my newly bought 980. I'm still limited by my pretty old i5-3550, but I get around 45-60 FPS everywhere apart from cutscenes which dip down to 30-40 for some reason. (Subsurface scattering maybe? I know that was a frame killer in the Dead Rising 3 cutscenes)

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Alter Ego posted:

So I'm a huge fan of the Assassin's Creed series...loved the Ezio trilogy, loved Black Flag, even liked AC3 because hell, it was Assassin's Creed during the Revolution and I'm a huge history nerd. These games are usually day 1 purchases for me.

However, reading the system requirements for Unity and hearing all the trouble everyone's having, should I skip it for the time being? I want to get it for PC and I'm pretty sure my rig will have a SHITLOAD of trouble running it, but it's Assassin's Creed and I have a hard time saying no.

It doesn't hurt to wait. Game's busted right now, and assuming they fix it you can get it cheaper probably around christmas.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Sighence posted:

How extensive is the co-op? Full storyline with SP/coop option or the weirdass partial coop system Blacklist used?

From what I can tell there are around 20-30 co-cop missions. They range from 2 minimum players, 4 maximum, to 2 maximum. They're contained little snippits about the Revolution and Templar and Assassin travails and exploits throughout it. The one I just had involved you saving Robespierre's spymaster because Robespierre is a Templar and the spymaster was too good at his job. They're cool little 10-20 minute minimissions that have no real impact (so far and probably never) on the main story.

The super interesting thing about them to me, and why I've wanted MP in AC from practically the beginning, is to see how other people play AC out in the wild. Four people pursuing their own path to a common agenda in a video game is one of the most interesting things and this seems to have it down pat. The guy I did that 2 man mission with was all about being on the ground and sneaking through crowds, knifing Templars and extremists while I went from rooftop to rooftop and picked off musketeers. It was amazing just how different we played it, but the mission itself was nothing special.

It's a weird sort of people-watching, basically.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


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Bro Dad posted:

If you have steam add "-disablepagefilecheck" (without quotations) to launch parameters.

This is a bullshit placebo thing that didn't do anything when people said to do it for watch_dogs and it won't do anything here either.

Noirex
May 30, 2006

Alter Ego posted:

So I'm a huge fan of the Assassin's Creed series...loved the Ezio trilogy, loved Black Flag, even liked AC3 because hell, it was Assassin's Creed during the Revolution and I'm a huge history nerd. These games are usually day 1 purchases for me.

However, reading the system requirements for Unity and hearing all the trouble everyone's having, should I skip it for the time being? I want to get it for PC and I'm pretty sure my rig will have a SHITLOAD of trouble running it, but it's Assassin's Creed and I have a hard time saying no.

After turning off vsync and changing to borderless windows, med textures/shadows/FXAA etc it's running well for me. Not buttery smooth but very playable with some minor stuttering. It's still very pretty too. I'm enjoying the game so far, the protagonist is likable in an Ezio sort of way and the new free form feels fluid. Just don't expect anything mindbogglingly different from the usual Asscreed game play, I don't see why you would regret it if you're already such a big fan.

psychoJ
Feb 24, 2011

Smart and cool, handsome, wealthy and so sexy

Orv posted:

From what I can tell there are around 20-30 co-cop missions.
now i want an AC game that's basically a buddy cop game that you can play coop. thanks for making me want things that'll never be, jerk

Orv
May 4, 2011

psychoJ posted:

now i want an AC game that's basically a buddy cop game that you can play coop. thanks for making me want things that'll never be, jerk

If you and your friends are sufficiently awful people, that can happen whenever you want! :v:

Mischitary
Oct 9, 2007
It sure is a shame that this game isn't amazing. I don't think there's any reason why an Assassin's Creed game can't be amazing anymore.

I don't understand why they don't just whittle the game down to it's most basic mechanics (running around, stabbing dudes, sneaking around) and get those absolutely perfect before even trying to put poo poo like murder mysteries in.

AC2/Brotherhood were such great games, I'm not sure what happened to the games afterwards that made them such lesser experiences. As a big history buff playing AC2/Brotherhood was a revelatory experience for me, because while it may not have actually been the case it really made you feel like you were a guy running around Renaissance Italy and I was so excited for the series going forward because of all the other times and places we would be able to visit but it just seems like one wasted opportunity after another.

Black Flag was pretty good but it only very slightly made me feel like I was in a certain time...I'm not so sure why that is, though. I felt the feeling more in AC3 than I did in Black Flag. Black Flag was actually a good game, though, but I would love to have a game that is both great and transports me to a certain time in history like AC2/Brotherhood did.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓𒁉𒋫 𒆷𒁀𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Now I get this popping up on my watch every few minutes, it's great

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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ymgve posted:

I can report that I'm having fun in the game with my newly bought 980. I'm still limited by my pretty old i5-3550, but I get around 45-60 FPS everywhere apart from cutscenes which dip down to 30-40 for some reason. (Subsurface scattering maybe? I know that was a frame killer in the Dead Rising 3 cutscenes)

Your CPU isn't limiting you. The lovely game is limiting itself, because its a giant piece of trash.

psychoJ
Feb 24, 2011

Smart and cool, handsome, wealthy and so sexy

Mischitary posted:

It sure is a shame that this game isn't amazing. I don't think there's any reason why an Assassin's Creed game can't be amazing anymore.

I don't understand why they don't just whittle the game down to it's most basic mechanics (running around, stabbing dudes, sneaking around) and get those absolutely perfect before even trying to put poo poo like murder mysteries in.

AC2/Brotherhood were such great games, I'm not sure what happened to the games afterwards that made them such lesser experiences. As a big history buff playing AC2/Brotherhood was a revelatory experience for me, because while it may not have actually been the case it really made you feel like you were a guy running around Renaissance Italy and I was so excited for the series going forward because of all the other times and places we would be able to visit but it just seems like one wasted opportunity after another.

Black Flag was pretty good but it only very slightly made me feel like I was in a certain time...I'm not so sure why that is, though. I felt the feeling more in AC3 than I did in Black Flag. Black Flag was actually a good game, though, but I would love to have a game that is both great and transports me to a certain time in history like AC2/Brotherhood did.

As a poster said in another thread before, nobody at Ubisoft really feels super enthusiastic about AC anymore and it's starting to show. Maybe if Ubi didn't fire Patrice Dsilets, and if he had any passion left for the series, then it'd be a different story I guess.

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

Mischitary posted:

AC2/Brotherhood were such great games, I'm not sure what happened to the games afterwards that made them such lesser experiences.

Probably that because of the way their annual release cycle works they're already more than halfway done with the next year's title before this year's is released, so they're never really able to incorporate feedback.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

macnbc posted:

Probably that because of the way their annual release cycle works they're already more than halfway done with the next year's title before this year's is released, so they're never really able to incorporate feedback.

So AC 2016 will be incredible because they implemented the mission rating system in Black Flag?

Vodos
Jul 17, 2009

And how do we do that? We hurt a lot of people...

Since nobody posted a team for that "Unite" thing, I made one that 3 more people can join for Uplay rewards. The team is called Thisisstupid and you should be able to join it by going to https://www.assassinscreed.com/unite
I'm not sure if it's still available in the US since it is supposed to be a pre-order thing, but that link took me to the German version of the site since I'm in Germany, so if any EU goons wanna try it should still work for them.

Ed: Also the initiates website is working again and I'm pretty confused, didn't they already have profiles and xp and poo poo when Black Flag was released? It says I'm lvl 1 with 0 xp and that I can sync my games but there's no options to do anything.

Vodos fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Nov 11, 2014

Mr E
Sep 18, 2007

Played a bit of Unity, it's fun so far, more of AssCreed, little better combat and really pretty. I don't have any performance issues so far, and turned the AA down to FXAA and turned off Vsync/made it borderless windowed. The story so far isn't great, more of the same. Yet again, not too upset since I got it for free, don't think I'd like it as much had I payed 60 bucks for it.

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

Vodos posted:

Since nobody posted a team for that "Unite" thing, I made one that 3 more people can join for Uplay rewards. The team is called Thisisstupid and you should be able to join it by going to https://www.assassinscreed.com/unite
I'm not sure if it's still available in the US since it is supposed to be a pre-order thing, but that link took me to the German version of the site since I'm in Germany, so if any EU goons wanna try it should still work for them.

The Unite program was always an EU thing. It's never been supported in the US.

Vodos posted:

Also the initiates website is working again and I'm pretty confused, didn't they already have profiles and xp and poo poo when Black Flag was released? It says I'm lvl 1 with 0 xp and that I can sync my games but there's no options to do anything.

That's how it is for everyone. It's apparently not syncing with Uplay properly.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Vodos posted:

Since nobody posted a team for that "Unite" thing, I made one that 3 more people can join for Uplay rewards. The team is called Thisisstupid and you should be able to join it by going to https://www.assassinscreed.com/unite
I'm not sure if it's still available in the US since it is supposed to be a pre-order thing, but that link took me to the German version of the site since I'm in Germany, so if any EU goons wanna try it should still work for them.

Ed: Also the initiates website is working again and I'm pretty confused, didn't they already have profiles and xp and poo poo when Black Flag was released? It says I'm lvl 1 with 0 xp and that I can sync my games but there's no options to do anything.

Initiates was in an alpha release for Black Flag. They took it down a few months ago so they could prepare for the actual releaae.

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
My biggest beef so far with Rogue is how little its naval map actually resembles the Maritimes. What is going on there, Canadian studio Ubisoft Montreal?

Slanderer
May 6, 2007
Really glad that Ubisoft learned nothing from the launches of Black Flag and Watchdogs, and Uplay is still unable to scale to meet day-1 loads.

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

Mameluke posted:

My biggest beef so far with Rogue is how little its naval map actually resembles the Maritimes. What is going on there, Canadian studio Ubisoft Montreal?

Might be because Rogue's lead dev was Eastern European studio Ubisoft Sofia.

Montreal had lead on Unity.

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

Orv posted:

So those of you who added me on PC should send a request to join the Club. There are apparently Club leagues where-in each week our Creed totals stack up against 5 others and whoever has the most gets prizes. Woo. The more interesting feature is that in the Club room under the Cafe Theatre, members of your club show up in all their horrible, goony glory.

E: Joining the Club happens once you're out of the prologue, go to My Brotherhood, My Club/Search For Club, search for [SAAC] or Goon_Ass and it'll ping me to let you in.

Just added myself as FlareXyron, a note about this is that I had to scroll down a few pages (more than 10) to find the club. You may find it faster by narrowing to Country: US and focus on Creed.

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

I guess I'm weird. :saddowns:

I'm having no performance problems, the framerate is nice and stable, and I'm finding the game pretty fun. I'd put it on equal footing with AC2. I'm just bummed the modern day storyline has been pushed so far into the background (which I get that people will really like), and there's no out-of-animus stuff from what I can tell.

I'm not going to say there's no performance issues though, my roommate has a radeon and its running like poo poo for him.

I'm running:
Intel i5-3550
8 GB of RAM
Geforce 780 GTX

Latest Geforce drivers.

Using the 780 settings suggested here.

With vsync on cause I get really bad tearing on my monitor otherwise (in everything).

Maybe its an Nvidia vs Radeon thing?

snodig
Oct 5, 2014

Sandweed posted:

Ubisoft really hates optimizing for the PC don't they.

Mischitary
Oct 9, 2007

psychoJ posted:

As a poster said in another thread before, nobody at Ubisoft really feels super enthusiastic about AC anymore and it's starting to show. Maybe if Ubi didn't fire Patrice Dsilets, and if he had any passion left for the series, then it'd be a different story I guess.

I definitely felt like Patrice had at least one more AC left in him that would've been incredible. Especially with the way 2 ended, it really seemed like he was prepared to make a 3rd game that would've tied up the "trilogy".

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

Mischitary posted:

I definitely felt like Patrice had at least one more AC left in him that would've been incredible. Especially with the way 2 ended, it really seemed like he was prepared to make a 3rd game that would've tied up the "trilogy".

As much as I like Assassins Creed (and as I said earlier, I'm the dumbass that buys these things every year AND I like Unity), the series really needs to take a break. Just, go away for a few years. Take 2-3 years and make the best Assassins Creed game they can.

2 in one year (3 if you count HD:Liberation) is a bit much.

Al Harrington
May 1, 2005

I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the eye
rofl if you think they're letting this cash cow go away

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

Al Harrington posted:

rofl if you think they're letting this cash cow go away

People said the same thing about Dragon Age after DA2 came out, but EA did the right thing and decided to take their time with the next one.

You can see the review score differential today.


What is this from?

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004


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macnbc posted:

What is this from?

It's a stupid comment in a file from Watch Dogs taken out of context. See the reference to "Xenon" in there? That's a codename for 360. It's a file about pixel shader stuff for last-gen consoles. The PC comment is meaningless since both PS4 and Xbone will execute the same "who cares" code path, but people still drag that picture out to "prove" that Ubisoft doesn't care about PC gamers.

You can see the full file here - note the "#if defined(XBOX360_TARGET) || defined(PS3_TARGET)" at the top.

ymgve fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Nov 11, 2014

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

macnbc posted:

What is this from?

If you GIS it, it appears to be from Watch Dogs, but none of the websites that come up are in English so I'm not sure.

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DeadLetterOfficer
Mar 30, 2011

I said, I've got a big stick.

Slanderer posted:

Really glad that Ubisoft learned nothing from the launches of Black Flag and Watchdogs, and Uplay is still unable to scale to meet day-1 loads.

This is the same with any popular release. It's not really viable to set up servers just to handle the load for a few days. It sucks but it's more a modern gaming thing than Ubisoft in particular.

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