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" He is first seen covered in blood and cuts and killing off the last of a group of men with a soup can in the back of a supermarket, then going to see if his family is okay - it is suggested that the men he was killing were attacking them. " http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Abraham_Ford_(TV_Series) this is straight out of the comics, tyreese should've died at the prison Abe, regardless of his attire is not a wife beater. He was avenging them.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 01:48 |
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enraged_camel posted:Currently there isn't any other explanation for why the woman has a black eye and she clearly tries to shield her kids from him, and then leaves a "don't follow us" message when she runs away. You don't think those guys Abe was killing would have anything to do with it, do you? Abe was just doing that for fun, I guess? Does anyone have a gif of Eugene creeping on Abe and Rosita that isn't weirdly dark and desaturated?
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 01:51 |
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Do people really have so much trouble grasping the concept that Abe's family were scared of him because they just watched their father and husband, who they probably see as a loving person, rage out and beat an entire group of people to death with his bare hands and a soup can? I'd be scared of a person too, no matter how long I've known them, if I just watched them cave in a skull with a can of pork n' beans. There is no evidence to support Abe being a wife beater.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 01:55 |
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Just rewatched the second flashback. "Ellen, You're safe now. I stopped them. You don't have to be scared now" Yeah. Sounds like a wife beater to me. Edit: obv they were assaulted or otherwise harmed. As per usual, in the comic it was rape, in the tv show it is implied rape but never full out confirmed as rape. GrAviTy84 fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Nov 12, 2014 |
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HonorableTB posted:Do people really have so much trouble grasping the concept that Abe's family were scared of him because they just watched their father and husband, who they probably see as a loving person, rage out and beat an entire group of people to death with his bare hands and a soup can? I'd be scared of a person too, no matter how long I've known them, if I just watched them cave in a skull with a can of pork n' beans. There is no evidence to support Abe being a wife beater. One of the recent episodes of Always Sunny in Philadelphia has them filming Lethal Weapon 6, and Mac is insisting on doing tons of exposition explaining the plot to the audience because plots are always so hard to follow unless you tell the audience exactly what's going on. It's supposed to be a joke. Supposed to be.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 01:59 |
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Jamesman posted:One of the recent episodes of Always Sunny in Philadelphia has them filming Lethal Weapon 6, and Mac is insisting on doing tons of exposition explaining the plot to the audience because plots are always so hard to follow unless you tell the audience exactly what's going on. yeah. and people want the pacing to be faster and for them to jump around to different subgroups more often? laffo
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:01 |
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RBA Starblade posted:I figured it was because the dudes he killed attacked them and he hulked out, then his family learned that the true monster was man and ran out and apparently managed to die in like five minutes. Good riddance... who would want a family that will die in five minutes anyway? To survive in this new, dangerous world, you need STRONG partners and offspring.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:04 |
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enraged_camel posted:Good riddance... who would want a family that will die in five minutes anyway? To survive in this new, dangerous world, you need STRONG partners and offspring. you seem jealous of abraham for some reason
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:07 |
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The family wouldnt leave him even if he was a wifebeater the show just needed *~drama~*.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:10 |
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It'd be cool if we maybe could have a rape allusion free Zombie Show episode ever so often.GrAviTy84 posted:"Ellen, You're safe now. I stopped them. You don't have to be scared now" (I'm not saying Abe's a wife beater. I much prefer him to not be in fact. Goes against the stereotype.)
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:14 |
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you guys are just coming off as insanely jealous of abes muscles
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:17 |
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:you guys are just coming off as insanely jealous of abes muscles Nah I'm just jelly of his hair. Where he find a stylist who can do color in Georgia during the apocalypse?
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:18 |
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:you guys are just coming off as insanely jealous of abes muscles They're just appreciating the male form.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:20 |
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now that bob has passed on, sadly, I am an Abe fan and you guys thought bob was a serial killer lol
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:21 |
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Lycus posted:They're just appreciating the male form. *~victimless crime~* EXTREME INSERTION posted:now that bob has passed on, sadly, I am an Abe fan they never flat out denied it bro /sarcasm
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:21 |
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Abe is the kind of guy who comes off as stupid, but hes not stupid he just has a different kind of situational intelligence. polar opposite of eugene. remember when he was the only guy smart enough to not walk through the dark zombie tunnel? I dont think he makes a particularly good leader but he would make a good second in command.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:24 |
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Abe's not stupid, he's traumatized. That was the entire point of the flashbacks. They weren't telling us that he's a wifebeater or whatever nonsense tea leaf reading of the scenes people come up with. The whole point was to show us that this entire obsessive task to get Eugene to Washington and all the insistence that they keep moving and never slow down is just him being traumatized by his family's death and refusing to take a moment to process it because the last time he did he put a gun in his mouth. Its supposed to put all the seemingly irrational and abrasive poo poo he's done like argue with Rick and refuse to take a day or two off into perspective and help us understand and sympathize with Abe. Its not supposed to make us think he's a loving wife beater.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:30 |
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precision posted:Weren't you paying attention? He has AIDS. Everyone
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:34 |
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Abe is the kind of guy who comes off as stupid, but hes not stupid he just has a different kind of situational intelligence. Gold
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 02:54 |
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Abe's wife was feeding the rats at the prison and that's how she got punched.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 03:10 |
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Binged watched all 4 1/2 seasons this past weekend. Some good, some bad. The one thing that really stood out to me though was the zombies. It's always funny seeing them trying to play tag with the main group of heroes, and having their heads chopped in half with blunt objects, while being super stealth ninja's that can rip out throats and tear open stomachs with extreme ease with anyone else. It's like the disease causes their grip and jaw strength to become superhero levels of strong, but everything else to be toddler levels of strength. Also I don't really get why their room/building clearing doesn't just consist of them making noise in a narrow hallway and killing them one at a time as they slowly lumber their way towards the group. They use noise to draw them out, but then they just charge in and fight all of them at the same time. Also, why does not a single person have a loving spear? It's literally the easiest weapon to make and would by far be the most effective. Instead everyone uses 6 inch knives. Still a fun show, though the middle of 3/4 were extremely boring. Also Daryl is an awesome character, but whenever he has to do more then give brooding one liners his acting is laughably bad. That monologue he gave to Beth at the shack was middle-school theaterish.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 03:14 |
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Let's not forget that Carol was only made stronger by her repeated merciless beatings.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 03:21 |
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WeLandedOnTheMoon! posted:Let's not forget that Carol was only made stronger by her repeated merciless beatings. Carol is basically the Hulk?
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 03:29 |
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STAC Goat posted:Abe's not stupid, he's traumatized. That was the entire point of the flashbacks. They weren't telling us that he's a wifebeater or whatever nonsense tea leaf reading of the scenes people come up with. So then who was the woman, how did she get a black eye and why was she and the kids cowering when he found them?
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 04:00 |
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enraged_camel posted:So then who was the woman, how did she get a black eye and why was she and the kids cowering when he found them? The woman was a cashier. She got a black eye because it was Black Friday and she probably got run over by some aggressive shoppers. The kids were cowering because they were being sold for slavery (the grocery store also sold children) and they just watched a bunch of random shoppers who were just looking for last minute stuff before Thanksgiving get beaten to death. Also, Abe is secretly a ghost which is why nobody talked to him in the scene. I mean, that's what I got out of the scene anyways. GamingHyena fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Nov 12, 2014 |
# ? Nov 12, 2014 04:03 |
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The mental gymnastics of this thread are scarier than anything on The Walking Dead.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 04:08 |
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Lycus posted:They're just appreciating the male form. I consider it a victimless crime.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 04:09 |
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GamingHyena posted:The woman was a cashier. She got a black eye because it was Black Friday and she probably got run over by some aggressive shoppers. The kids were cowering because they were being sold for slavery (the grocery store also sold children) and they just watched a bunch of random shoppers who were just looking for last minute stuff before Thanksgiving get beaten to death. Also, Abe is secretly a ghost which is why nobody talked to him in the scene. This makes a lot of sense when you consider the note that she left, if some lumbering ginger idiot ruined my black friday I wouldn't want him coming after me either
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 04:13 |
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GamingHyena posted:The woman was a cashier. She got a black eye because it was Black Friday and she probably got run over by some aggressive shoppers. The kids were cowering because they were being sold for slavery (the grocery store also sold children) and they just watched a bunch of random shoppers who were just looking for last minute stuff before Thanksgiving get beaten to death. Also, Abe is secretly a ghost which is why nobody talked to him in the scene. Nice edit.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 04:15 |
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Das Boo posted:The mental gymnastics of this thread are scarier than anything on The Walking Dead. Well what would you do if your husband beat a bunch of people to death with a soup can in his fist while you watched? You'd be loving grateful is what you'd be.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 04:16 |
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MariusLecter posted:You'd be loving grateful is what you'd be.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 04:32 |
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Why was the warning about the dead people in the firehouse written on the ground facing towards the firetruck, and not out towards the street or on the building? Also why were there tires stacked on the inside of that door? Someone please help.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 04:58 |
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enraged_camel posted:So then who was the woman, how did she get a black eye and why was she and the kids cowering when he found them? Seriously? His family was attacked, he lost his poo poo and savagely murdered the attackers, his traumatized and terrified wife ran away with the kids, they got eaten, he nearly killed himself before Eugene stumbled on him and gave him a mission to distract himself from what happened. Please tell me I just fell for a troll. I can never tell in this thread.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 05:04 |
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I dread to ask right at this moment, but I must have missed it during the show, when did the AIDS thing come out?
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 05:08 |
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I might stop watching the show and just read this thread. It's loving gold. I haven't read the comics, but this show isn't particularly subtle. Did it seem like that was Abe's family and he was protecting them? Then yup, that's what it was. Agent Burt Macklin fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Nov 12, 2014 |
# ? Nov 12, 2014 05:15 |
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All I see are a bunch of nerds jealous of abes physique and fighting skills. Bunch of eugenes
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 05:15 |
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QwertySanchez posted:I dread to ask right at this moment, but I must have missed it during the show, when did the AIDS thing come out?
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 05:15 |
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QwertySanchez posted:I dread to ask right at this moment, but I must have missed it during the show, when did the AIDS thing come out? Eugene revealed he had AIDS at the end of the episode, much to the shock of the rest of the group.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 05:17 |
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Dr. Abysmal posted:Eugene revealed he had AIDS at the end of the episode, much to the shock of the rest of the group. That's why Abe punched him, for not telling him after all those nights of unprotected sex and sharing needles.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 05:18 |
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:walked into a door Well she seemed a little on the slow side. Like someone that might not listen the first time you dun told her. EXTREME INSERTION posted:Abe is the kind of guy who comes off as stupid, but hes not stupid he just has a different kind of situational intelligence. polar opposite of eugene. remember when he was the only guy smart enough to not walk through the dark zombie tunnel? Don't worry Abe.... some of us will drink beers and not walk into zombie tunnels with you.
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