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So England has decided to come out swinging. After sitting basically the entire war in Europe out, they've decided to land in Japan-occupied China with 6-7 divisions, quickly pushing aside the small garrisons left and meeting up with the Communist Chinese in a matter of weeks. I decided to invade Korea to help out and try to make sure we didn't risk the loss of South Korean films and pop-stars. I only discover now I cannot liberate South Korea. This is kind of an annoying, if minor oversight. This also came up with Austria, and the Czech Republic. I was allowed to liberate Poland, but for some reason it doesn't get any of its Baltic Sea provinces back? I guess the simplest workaround is to change the owner/controller of a bunch of provinces I took over? Is there a way to also force their government into the Allies while I'm doing that?
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TheMcD posted:Guys... Yeah, fixing flags isn't really a priority at the moment. The Netherlands has been named The Netherlands for ages though, and you can't see they country name in any of those screenshots. fermun posted:Each counter represents ~10,000 soldiers, and the type of soldiers they are represented by symbols. That has been changed to the new setup where there's a symbol of a helmet to say they are infantry instead of a counter with an X on it and a number 1 means ~10,000 soldiers, whereas 2 means ~20,000 soldiers, etc.. Additionally there is now a small icon of a man on the map instead of just being the counter and people do not want that man to be there. Then there's also been a change to make the terrain map have a ~1 province wide colored border instead of coloring every province on the map to show control. Technically a HoI3 counter wasn't a fixed size unit, a division could be 4000-15000 men. In HoI4 the 1/x under a unit means there is 1/x division(s), which can also be variable sizes. Gimmick Account posted:Guuuys, I really wanted Paradox to weigh in on the issue of women in Crusader Kings 2, even if it was just to say that they noticed the discussion and there will be no change - Whyyy are you drowning that in pages of luddism about counters?? This isn't Paradox Plaza... I mailed them your question and that Grand tourny post, will let you know if they reply. BBJoey posted:The loss of faux-cyrillic is truly the worst part of the HoI4 interface changes. Will add it back ASAP!
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Nov 11, 2014 11:39
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Darkrenown posted:Will add it back ASAP! Make it hardcoded then introduce a $5 DLC for font customisation. 
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Nov 11, 2014 11:52
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:That's a cool fact to know. What did Westwood do with their flame tanks in C&C? Also, could you claim they're Ice Tanks?? I played the first game's German version and even though everyone was robots it did have the flame tank. 
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Nov 11, 2014 11:55
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Robots are metal, metal melts. QED.
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Nov 11, 2014 12:11
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Darkrenown posted:I mailed them your question and that Grand tourny post, will let you know if they reply. Thank you, Darkrenown! YOU DA BEST~ Darkrenown posted:Will add it back ASAP! I can't tell if you're serious or not. Speaking as someone who can actually read cyrillic, this kind of thing in games always sets me off.
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Nov 11, 2014 12:15
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podcat posted:Actually no. flame tanks are illegal to show in germany in video games and having to removing core gameplay to be able to release in germany breaks too much (yes I know its massively balls retarded). I'm pretty sure that isn't true, that's a really specific and nonsensical thing to ban. Germany didn't even have any noteworthy flamers. What, does the sight of a Sherman Croc or a flamethrowing Churchill send revanchist feelings down German spines?
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Nov 11, 2014 14:21
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Mans posted:I'm pretty sure that isn't true, that's a really specific and nonsensical thing to ban. Germany didn't even have any noteworthy flamers. What, does the sight of a Sherman Croc or a flamethrowing Churchill send revanchist feelings down German spines? its about flame throwers specifically, not tanks. and germany has a lot of nonsensical retarded poo poo banned.
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Nov 11, 2014 15:54
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Why did Germany ban the depiction of flamethrowers? That seems oddly specific. Wait, so do they not allow anyone to watch Avatar: The Last Airbender there, because there's people who can magically shoot flames?
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Nov 11, 2014 16:13
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:That's a cool fact to know. What did Westwood do with their flame tanks in C&C? They made everything robots and cyborgs instead of tanks and men because in Germany apparently that's okay. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_Generals#Ban_in_Germany
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Nov 11, 2014 16:13
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blackmongoose posted:I'm pretty sure there was a console command in a past HoI that would basically do a Turtledove by spawning a faction with all techs researched and super-powerful units in one province. It's a reasonably interesting premise for a mapgame to shake up the 50th time you do WWII and you wouldn't have to actually read any of his writing that way. I'd call that a win-win. At least in HoI2 the aliens would continuously spawn in max tech units but wouldn't declare war on anybody except the owner of the province they spawned in on and wouldn't get ships unless they spawned on a sea province. Maybe they changed them to declare war on everybody at some point though because the last time I played a Hearts of Iron game was HoI2 vanilla before any of the expansions were released.
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Nov 11, 2014 19:27
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podcat posted:its about flame throwers specifically, not tanks. and germany has a lot of nonsensical retarded poo poo banned. What? No. Company of Heroes has several flamethrowing units in the German version, including flame throwers. Between that and the Hilter thing at the release of HoI 3 I think you guys were badly misinformed about German censorship law.
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Nov 11, 2014 19:43
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ArchangeI posted:What? No. Company of Heroes has several flamethrowing units in the German version, including flame throwers. Between that and the Hilter thing at the release of HoI 3 I think you guys were badly misinformed about German censorship law. I just heard about HoI 4, is it going to get banned in China again
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Nov 11, 2014 19:44
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ArchangeI posted:What? No. Company of Heroes has several flamethrowing units in the German version, including flame throwers. Between that and the Hilter thing at the release of HoI 3 I think you guys were badly misinformed about German censorship law. From the link I gave above it seems like its less censorship and more avoiding the ire of the harmful media board which can place some pretty strict restrictions on how its sold.
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Nov 11, 2014 19:48
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Raskolnikov38 posted:From the link I gave above it seems like its less censorship and more avoiding the ire of the harmful media board which can place some pretty strict restrictions on how its sold. Probably this. In the US, a little flash of nudity in the wrong decade meant an x-rated game, even if you could see more in an r-rated movie at the same time. Things have lightened up a bit over time, but you don't want to risk it because someone got really picky one day on the board and decides that "no, I don't want my kids playing this filthy naked WWII simulator". Just swap nudity for violence with Germany.
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Nov 11, 2014 20:14
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fermun posted:People want the units on the map to look like this: Just wanted to say thanks for these beautiful pictures unironically. I have used counters instead of sprites since the time of Now and Forever. I don't really give a gently caress about it but I will miss them dearly and would be the guy to turn off the sprites and just play using the new helmet+number icons if that were possible.
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Nov 11, 2014 20:48
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:So England has decided to come out swinging. After sitting basically the entire war in Europe out, they've decided to land in Japan-occupied China with 6-7 divisions, quickly pushing aside the small garrisons left and meeting up with the Communist Chinese in a matter of weeks. I decided to invade Korea to help out and try to make sure we didn't risk the loss of South Korean films and pop-stars. I only discover now I cannot liberate South Korea. So my plan isn't working great here. I gave a bunch of Polish land back to Poland from Germany- but when I re-built Austria it basically went back to pre-Annexation, except drifting towards Comintern. Is there a straight-forward "liberation" file in the game that I can mod to allow me to simply liberate Austria and Czechoslovakia the same way I can with Poland?
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Nov 11, 2014 20:53
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Raskolnikov38 posted:From the link I gave above it seems like its less censorship and more avoiding the ire of the harmful media board which can place some pretty strict restrictions on how its sold. The Command and Conquer thing was something else entirely, and you'll note that the later C&Cs didn't even bother with it. podcat said they couldn't sell games in Germany which had flamethrowers in it, which is utterly wrong. The worst that board can do is ban sales to minors, which should only make a tiny impact on HoI sales in Germany. Although I have to admit the idea of 15 year old play HoI multiplayer is somewhat entertaining. "GG soviet fag, no skill just spam infantry loving human being"
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Nov 11, 2014 21:27
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In addition to banning sales to minors, it also bans mail ordering the games which depending on German case law, of which I know nothing, could apply to digital distribution as well.
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Nov 11, 2014 21:30
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ArchangeI posted:The Command and Conquer thing was something else entirely, and you'll note that the later C&Cs didn't even bother with it. The suicide bomber unit in Generals was replaced with a little bomb on wheels  It's actually pretty cute.
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Nov 11, 2014 22:06
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GrossMurpel posted:The suicide bomber unit in Generals was replaced with a little bomb on wheels Man, the GLA is better funded than I thought if even their slave laborers are cyborgs.
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Nov 11, 2014 22:12
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Chalk up another vote for missing the counters. But I will forgive Paradox if they fix up Nat. China.
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Nov 12, 2014 00:08
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podcat posted:Actually no. flame tanks are illegal to show in germany in video games and having to removing core gameplay to be able to release in germany breaks too much (yes I know its massively balls retarded). What? Did the Germans even use flamethrower tanks? I was only aware of American/British ones. Also, put me down as another vote in favor of counters. They've been an important part of the aesthetics and atmosphere of the game.
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Charlz Guybon posted:What? Did the Germans even use flamethrower tanks? I was only aware of American/British ones. They converted a number of Panzer IIIs to flame tanks. And podcat is also wrong, it isn't illegal. It's not even restricted, Company of Heroes literally has flame tanks, and I'm sure Men of War has as well.
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Charlz Guybon posted:What? Did the Germans even use flamethrower tanks? I was only aware of American/British ones. Yup, they did. From wikipedia: Flammpanzer I a field variant of the German Panzer I used briefly during the war in North Africa Panzer II Flamm, a variant of the German Panzer II Ausf D/E. Flammpanzer 38, a variant of the Jagdpanzer 38(t) tank destroyer. Panzerkampfwagen B2 (F), a variant produced by the Germans based on captured French Char B1 tank chassis. Flammpanzer III Ausf M/Panzer III (F1), a variant of the German Panzer III Ausf M. Sdkfz 251/16 Flammpanzerwagen, a variant based on the Sdkfz 251 series of half-tracks. StuG III (FLAMM), a variant based on a variety of pre-Ausf F StuG III assault gun chassis.
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ArchangeI posted:They converted a number of Panzer IIIs to flame tanks. And podcat is also wrong, it isn't illegal. It's not even restricted, Company of Heroes literally has flame tanks, and I'm sure Men of War has as well. in the german version sold in stores? In that case our german lawyer was lying to me.
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Nov 12, 2014 09:11
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Your German lawyer's an idiot. Especially when you are making an abstracted strategy game.
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Nov 12, 2014 09:18
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podcat posted:in the german version sold in stores? In that case our german lawyer was lying to me. In the German versions I bought in German stores in Germany they do, at least. Riso posted:Your German lawyer's an idiot. Seriously.
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Nov 12, 2014 09:20
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Gimmick Account posted:Your recent beta-patch implementation of women no longer being able to call for Great Holy Wars seems to have been received with universal disapproval. Could you elaborate on the reasons for that change? I don't think that females having too many options was something I've ever heard anybody complain about. For example them not being able to hold tournaments at all, even without participating, etc. They said they did not intend to prevent women from calling GHWs and a quick check didn't show any reason why this would be the case. Are you sure it's a female ruler thing and not some other reason? If someone could upload a save showing this it would help too.
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Nov 12, 2014 09:55
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Riso posted:Your German lawyer's an idiot. Let's be fair: Perhaps the lawyer's grandfather was killed by a flame tank during WW2, and he has made it his personal crusade to keep flame tanks out of video games wherever he can do so.
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Nov 12, 2014 10:21
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This is the most :paradox: thing that I think has happened.
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Nov 12, 2014 10:28
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Tomn posted:Let's be fair: Perhaps the lawyer's grandfather was killed by a flame tank during WW2, and he has made it his personal crusade to keep flame tanks out of video games wherever he can do so. If that was true then he would also be against those stupid unreliable panzerfausts that just make you embarassed in front of a tank.
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Nov 12, 2014 10:32
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Luigi Thirty posted:This is the most :paradox: thing that I think has happened. This, and losing a game engine.
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Nov 12, 2014 11:28
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Gort posted:Could you have a tech called flamethrower tanks that gave appropriate bonuses (reduced dig-in bonus of enemy infantry) that simply modified normal tank divisions? As a flame tank, we get certain bonuses.
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Nov 12, 2014 11:35
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Riso posted:Your German lawyer's an idiot. The lawyer is probably just erring on the conservative side to make sure there aren't any possible lawsuits, something that could likely cause serious financial harm to Paradox.
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Nov 12, 2014 12:19
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Darkrenown posted:They said they did not intend to prevent women from calling GHWs and a quick check didn't show any reason why this would be the case. Are you sure it's a female ruler thing and not some other reason? If someone could upload a save showing this it would help too. Seems like this was actually fixed in 2.2  "- Pagan great holy wars no longer blocked if head of religion is female."
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Nov 12, 2014 14:49
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SeaTard posted:The lawyer is probably just erring on the conservative side to make sure there aren't any possible lawsuits, something that could likely cause serious financial harm to Paradox. It is pretty funny that flame tanks would be the tipping point, though. "You can play as Nazi Germany, led by Adolf Hitler? Eh. You can annex the whole of Europe into Greater Germany? Ho-hum. You can irradiate the entire East Coast in an attempt to soften it up for your unprovoked invasion? Whatever. Wait, poo poo, you use abstracted FLAME TANK DIVISIONS sometimes?! BAN THIS SICK FILTH."
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Nov 12, 2014 15:25
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Who ran the HOI 3 tutorial in the German version anyway? Mr.Hilter?
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Nov 12, 2014 16:43
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Tomn posted:It is pretty funny that flame tanks would be the tipping point, though. The realistic sight of giant army men falling to the ground in flames, writhing in pain as their skin graphically falls off, was just too much. This wouldn't have happened with counters.
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Mantis42 posted:The realistic sight of giant army men falling to the ground in flames, writhing in pain as their skin graphically falls off, was just too much. Devs please introduce dying animations when you kill a unit. Like when a unit that is majority artillery kills a unit, it fires a shell at the defeated unit's province and the little infantry dude goes flying. And the flame tank death animation obviously. (as cool as it'd be to see, do not do this, I'd imagine that'd be demanding)
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