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darkgray posted:Did I miss when they explain why Tooru and Akari aren't always in Saboteur mode when they fight? Seems more ... efficient. Well seeing as they've never explained anything at all about it...
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It sounds pretty ridiculous going by how the manga described it in like the third chapter;
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Nov 10, 2014 08:35
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I always equated their transformation with self-hypnosis and intense concentration, like Jin-ei's "I. AM. STEEL!" technique from early RuroKen.
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darkgray posted:Did I miss when they explain why Tooru and Akari aren't always in Saboteur mode when they fight? Seems more ... efficient. Don't they need to eat like pigs afterward? And sleep like the dead? I seem to recall something from Season 1 where they need to eat more and sleep more in order to recover after using Iron-Blood mode.
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Nov 12, 2014 08:32
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Was Frederica eating a conch whole  Oh god you can hear the crunching sounds aaaaaaa  They do such a good job at showing how inhuman Frederica and Niva are despite looking human. Both of them chowing down when the real humans are talking to creepy boy. Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Nov 12, 2014 |
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Nov 12, 2014 20:56
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Was Frederica eating a conch whole Frederica is the fuckin' best. I liked the part where she found out about the tournament and was like "gently caress yes, I get to kill poo poo again!" Then she got used as a decoy and both her and me were like  .I wasn't expecting Guy to take Niva, so that was an interesting development. I guess Guy is taking a more active role in things? Ought to be interesting. Also, Gillette has been brainwashed and gone full evil, when Vivi finds out she is going to freak the gently caress out. I can't wait for the next episode.
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Nov 12, 2014 22:54
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I wasn't expecting Guy to take Niva, so that was an interesting development. I guess Guy is taking a more active role in things? Ought to be interesting. Also, Gillette has been brainwashed and gone full evil, when Vivi finds out she is going to freak the gently caress out. I can't wait for the next episode.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Frederica is the fuckin' best. Agreed. It seems like they're nearing the climax of whatever plan is in motion, and so things are starting to move more quickly, which means more of Guy showing up to direct things as needed. I'm not yet sure how Niva fits into the whole situation or the plan, but I'm sad that we won't have anymore Chaika-Niva conversations if she does leave. That bit about Niva and her/its humanity was just so adorable.
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Nov 12, 2014 23:04
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Calling it now. Guy is the old Emperor somehow re-constituted as a young boy. We have Black Chaika's now. Red-White-Black. I really am hoping for a Yellow next. Vivi is going to complete her Chaika conversion when she finds Gillett and realizes he's evil now.
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Nov 12, 2014 23:34
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Given the abilities he displayed in the flashback, I'm not sure why Guy even needs a bunch of Chaikas (Chaiki? I don't know Russian) to do his dirty work for him.
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Dzhay posted:Given the abilities he displayed in the flashback, I'm not sure why Guy even needs a bunch of Chaikas (Chaiki? I don't know Russian) to do his dirty work for him. If mind control was easy, there wouldn't be much point to the rest of the story, so there's probably a cost to using it. We've never seen him touch anything and he can phase through walls, so I don't think he can drag a coffin around on his own.
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Nov 13, 2014 01:03
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they said somewhere this is ending in concert with the LNs, right? Or am I making things up? They're getting into crunch time if so, since there's only a few episodes left. also chaika and niva talking was a surreal experience
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Nov 13, 2014 04:45
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Frederica eating now holds the top two moments in the series. Chaika and Niva talking is a close third though.
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Nov 13, 2014 05:51
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Sindai posted:Frederica eating now holds the top two moments in the series. Excuse me, but I beg to differ.
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Nov 13, 2014 06:26
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We have separate categories for Chaika and Frederica though.
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Nov 13, 2014 07:02
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Well, Hartgen is apparently Big Boss.
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He's also pretty clearly dancing on strings as much as anyone else. I also think that those Chaikas we always see with him are other Chaikas that the True Black Chaika in the back has been brainwashing into her servants or something. God knows what Guy's game is though, aside of Gaz's return.
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I like Frederica going back to her old masters form. It seems she subconsciously channels her personality because she's far more composed in it, she even gets a little accent. Also Touru's life is suffering, his sister on one side saying nonsense and Frederica on the other constantly tempting him to form a contract. Guy has the gift of tuning out everything they say.
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legoman727 posted:Well, Hartgen is apparently Big Boss. Niva is his Metal Gear. The third black Chaika threw me off. No idea what her game is.
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SSNeoman posted:Niva is his Metal Gear. She seemed suspiciously like the Blue Chaika, except that she didn't recognise our heroes enough.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I like Frederica going back to her old masters form. It seems she subconsciously channels her personality because she's far more composed in it, she even gets a little accent. Also Touru's life is suffering, his sister on one side saying nonsense and Frederica on the other constantly tempting him to form a contract. Guy has the gift of tuning out everything they say. adult frederica is badass
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Actually, come to think of it, what if Layla got the Gilette treatment? We didn't see her die onscreen, did we?
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Darth Walrus posted:Actually, come to think of it, what if Layla got the Gilette treatment? We didn't see her die onscreen, did we? Different VA. There are also a lot of Chaikas, so why save her? She still gets to sing during the ending.
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Lurking Haro posted:Different VA. There are also a lot of Chaikas, so why save her? She still gets to sing during the ending. She's smart, manipulative, a talented chemist, and almost managed whatever the Gaz Empire remnants are trying to do with Hartgen last season (the fact that she was doing it as a 'gently caress you' to Gaz is probably irrelevant). We already know Guy likes to scout that kind of talent. You're right that the VA difference probably means the theory's wrong, but if it had been right, it would have been pretty workable.
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Darth Walrus posted:She's smart, manipulative, a talented chemist, and almost managed whatever the Gaz Empire remnants are trying to do with Hartgen last season (the fact that she was doing it as a 'gently caress you' to Gaz is probably irrelevant). We already know Guy likes to scout that kind of talent. You're right that the VA difference probably means the theory's wrong, but if it had been right, it would have been pretty workable. I understood Gilette treatment as saving and brainwashing her, taking away the smart and manipulative characteristics.
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Lurking Haro posted:I understood Gilette treatment as saving and brainwashing her, taking away the smart and manipulative characteristics. Depends how heavy-handed the brainwash is. Gilette didn't lose his combat skills, at least.
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The new opening has Tooru lookin' pretty bad rear end, I like it!
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Cao Ni Ma posted:I like Frederica going back to her old masters form. It seems she subconsciously channels her personality because she's far more composed in it, she even gets a little accent. Also Touru's life is suffering, his sister on one side saying nonsense and Frederica on the other constantly tempting him to form a contract. Guy has the gift of tuning out everything they say.
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Jackard posted:When did this happen? In the most recent episode?
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glomkettle posted:In the most recent episode? Could you go into more detail? When did she assume a form/accent different from her regular ones?
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Jackard posted:?? When she was ostensibly teaming up with Akari as a pair in the tournament, she took the form of her old master.
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Jackard posted:??
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Oh, I was one episode behind without realizing it.
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Yeah, I like murderlolis as much as the next guy, but Adult Frederica is where it's at. Also goddamn Akari calm down with the sexual tension. That said, for her character I like how she was somewhat ambivalent about Frederica asking what she wants re: starting a war again.
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Everyone has their kinks, Akari's just involves taxidermy and BDSM.
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I personally don't think Federica is tempting Tooru with the Dragoon contact so much as recognizing his inherent character. He really *isn't* a Saboteur. He is both far too righteous and far too invested in fighting--he really is more of a Cavalier than a Saboteur.
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We don't really know what Saboteurs were like. We just have the job description from Toohru. Like back in Season 1's floating fortress, if Toohru was a "real" saboteur", was he supposed to stab Akari instead of sparing her? Keep in mind Shin is working for the bad guy so he might be full of poo poo on what a real saboteur is like, while Frederica is just saying things to screw with Toohru.
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