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I dont get why people are upset with chinese copying others. They dont have time to design cars as so many millions of people need them immediately. Anyone whos anyone in China is in one of the many high end European cars exclusively sold in China. That some dude in a rural village is driving around in a faux Range Rover (Evogue of all) doesn't bother me in the least bit. People like this guy know whats fake and whats not. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/tycoon-buys-30-rolls-royce-cars-macau-hotel
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Preoptopus posted:I dont get why people are upset with chinese copying others. They dont have time to design cars as so many millions of people need them immediately. Anyone whos anyone in China is in one of the many high end European cars exclusively sold in China. That some dude in a rural village is driving around in a faux Range Rover (Evogue of all) doesn't bother me in the least bit. I hope you don't really think this. Basically this: http://www.businessinsider.com/jony-ive-calls-design-copies-theft-2014-10 As an engineer who has worked in R&D, the idea that I could spend months or years designing something for it to be ripped off and profited on by a person who doesn't own the IP to it is angering. There's a reason a copyright clause exists in the constitution and it is because rewarding innovators in our society is very VERY important to it's progression.
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Nov 13, 2014 03:13
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CarForumPoster posted:I hope you don't really think this. While I don't disagree with you, I think in the case of these Chinese knock-off cars the only thing they're copying is the styling. The engineering is unlikely to be even remotely similar.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:While I don't disagree with you, I think in the case of these Chinese knock-off cars the only thing they're copying is the styling. The engineering is unlikely to be even remotely similar. The styling is part of the engineering. Its been my observation that it is extremely common in China to just take something they see working and try to apply it with very little other thoughts except for cost. While that makes the nuts and bolts engineering come out super crappy, they're probably stealing the general mechanical design as well. On topic: 
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Nov 13, 2014 07:04
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Linedance posted:That's a Celica and a Tiburon /Coupe, yes. Linedance posted:What am I supposed to be seeing here, other than 3 red cars that look nothing alike and span roughly a decade of design? The first one is a 2007 Coupe (I don't know if these were a thing in America), and the second one is a Ferrari F430, that they were accused of ripping the design from. As I said, I don't really see it myself. The third one is a 2002 Celica, which the Coupe has always reminded me of, although seeing them side by side it's mostly superficial - the general proportions and the shape of the lights. Bonus  
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Nov 13, 2014 11:55
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Powershift posted:Name that car! I'd love to buy a 'Land Wind' if only just to troll the trophy wives at my sons school who seem to have done a bulk buy of chromed-out Evoques. (seriously, there are like 5 identical white evoques that I can only identify by the vanity plates, and about five brand new jumbo-rovers too).
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Nov 13, 2014 13:21
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CarForumPoster posted:I hope you don't really think this. literally every single industrial society except for the first (and even then Henry VIII importing flemish wool weavers in the 15th century is the start of crap like this) got its start from stealing technology from someone else, I mean gently caress, we stole the steam engine from the british
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Nov 13, 2014 15:16
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cynic posted:I'd love to buy a 'Land Wind' if only just to troll the trophy wives at my sons school who seem to have done a bulk buy of chromed-out Evoques. (seriously, there are like 5 identical white evoques that I can only identify by the vanity plates, and about five brand new jumbo-rovers too). That wouldn't really cone across as trolling, try a rusty Lada Niva with
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Nov 13, 2014 16:40
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CarForumPoster posted:I hope you don't really think this. But as a sovereign nation its their right to not give a crap about other peoples copyright laws. If corporations felt they were losing more money from these ripoffs than they're gaining by sending all the blueprints to China for cheap labor then they certainly wouldn't continue to do it. Corporations simply don't care about your hard work as an engineer or ethics in general.
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Nov 13, 2014 17:23
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Nov 13, 2014 17:39
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Not all handicaps are physical.
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Sipher posted:Nailed it! I've seen that thing before - high probability the actual handicapped spot was taken, and god forbid the new arrival doesn't park in the "handicapped area". I've watch people pull right into the marked "don't park here fuckhead" area when the next three non-HC spots were clear. 
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Nov 13, 2014 18:51
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:I've seen that thing before - high probability the actual handicapped spot was taken, and god forbid the new arrival doesn't park in the "handicapped area". Then get out with no issues because the placard belongs to their 300 pound wife with a bum leg that isn't in the car. Topical, and one of my favorite Karma returns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZAwDAdyvpU
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Nov 13, 2014 19:03
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CarForumPoster posted:On topic: While the 85 MPH speedo thing was terrible government BS, I salute the auto manufacturer who did this. It follows the letter of the law by not having actual numbers above 85, but is still usable past that. Most of them tweaked the speedo so that the entire sweep ended at 85.
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veedubfreak posted:Then get out with no issues because the placard belongs to their 300 pound wife with a bum leg that isn't in the car. Jesus christ I'd work all day without pay if I got to sit and watch douchebag NASCAR fans get pelted with huge fines for being so lazy. I bet they were all so happy and smug that they gamed the system pulling up that hill to park there. I wish they could bottle up and sell that exact moment when they realize "oh poo poo, we're gonna have to prove this is legit??".
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Nov 13, 2014 19:09
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veedubfreak posted:Then get out with no issues because the placard belongs to their 300 pound wife with a bum leg that isn't in the car. This is glorious. Also I had a coworker that fit your description to an absolute T. His wife was totally capable of walking just fine and he'd use it 100% of the time regardless if she was with him or not.
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Nov 13, 2014 19:14
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veedubfreak posted:Then get out with no issues because the placard belongs to their 300 pound wife with a bum leg that isn't in the car. Yessssss all aboard the schadenfreude express!
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Nov 13, 2014 19:25
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CarForumPoster posted:The styling is part of the engineering. Its been my observation that it is extremely common in China to just take something they see working and try to apply it with very little other thoughts except for cost. While that makes the nuts and bolts engineering come out super crappy, they're probably stealing the general mechanical design as well. I've posted this around here before, but I always loved this.  Shelby GLHS. After the laws changed, and they actually had a Omni that could break 85 no sweat, but Chrysler didn't want to spend the money to redesign it for a limited run car, so they added a sticker to the bottom of the stock omni speedo.
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Nov 13, 2014 19:26
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There's got to be a lot of joy in making a speedo do a full 360+ degree spin.
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:I've seen that thing before - high probability the actual handicapped spot was taken, and god forbid the new arrival doesn't park in the "handicapped area". They're actually parked between two spots, so blocking both. There's another 4 spots, none of which were full. This was 100% driver fail.
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Nov 13, 2014 19:45
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Sipher posted:They're actually parked between two spots, so blocking both. There's another 4 spots, none of which were full. This was 100% driver fail. I saw exactly that the other day... some douche parked on top of the blue-striped unloading area between 2 handicapped spots, his wheels ending up overlapping into both spots. No plate, no placard... I planned to call it in as soon as I finished at the bank, since there's a police station literally 100 yards away, but they were leaving when I got out of the bank. Two able-bodied young people.
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Nov 13, 2014 19:55
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Cakefool posted:That wouldn't really cone across as trolling, try a rusty Lada Niva with I had no idea what an Overfinch was, and I doubt anyone else would either. But Range Rover badging is something I have actually considered because I'm a horrible person.
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General_Failure posted:I had no idea what an Overfinch was, and I doubt anyone else would either. But Range Rover badging is something I have actually considered because I'm a horrible person. The kind of people who know what an Overfinch badge is and who actually care, are exactly the kind of people who would be irrationally upset at a Niva with one. They're also probably the kind of people to bludgeon you to death with a tire iron on the roadside for the transgression on the way to a nightclub to pick up some Indonesian girls to take back to their flat, so it's probably not a good idea.
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Nov 13, 2014 22:44
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Linedance posted:The kind of people who know what an Overfinch badge is and who actually care, are exactly the kind of people who would be irrationally upset at a Niva with one. They're also probably the kind of people to bludgeon you to death with a tire iron on the roadside for the transgression on the way to a nightclub to pick up some Indonesian girls to take back to their flat, so it's probably not a good idea. No, that's exactly what makes it the best idea.
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Nov 13, 2014 23:36
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Why not? Its certainly a thing to throw "range rover grilles" on OBS chevies. 
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Nov 13, 2014 23:44
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Nov 13, 2014 23:47
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God no, why? It doesn't even look anything like a Rangie.
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Nov 13, 2014 23:53
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It looks like one of those photoshopped pictures designed to confuse your brain, like the picture of the lady's face with her eyes clone-stacked above themselves. The more you look at it the more it breaks reality.
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Nov 13, 2014 23:59
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 DISCO DISCO, YEAH YEAH, DISCO DISCO, YEAH YEAH. That's what comes to mind when I see those headlamps
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From imgur today: http://imgur.com/gallery/Z6VZo Car could of fared worse... Mercury Ballistic fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Nov 14, 2014 02:35
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The chances of that are so astronomically tiny! Assuming that the tyre somehow cushioned the landing enough so as to avoid setting off the impact fuse. If it's a dud, well, poo poo happens I guess.
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I really hope that guy has collision insurance because I desperately want to see the claim. Other Driver Make: MORTAR Other Driver Model: A loving BOMB Describe the incident: A loving BOMB FELL OUT OF THE SKY AND GOT STUCK IN MY REAR QUARTER PANEL Describe the damage: GAS DOOR, SOME TRIM. ALSO THERE'S A loving BOMB STUCK IN THE CAR. Did you contact the other party's insurance? NO Were you texting while driving? A LITTLE Claim denied.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I really hope that guy has collision insurance because I desperately want to see the claim. I'm sure some claims adjuster is going to have a field day because it will be the first time in living memory someone got to invoke the "act of war" clause to deny a claim.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I really hope that guy has collision insurance because I desperately want to see the claim. Hate to tell you that acts of war are specifically excluded. FYI: Detonation of a nuclear device under any circumstances is considered an act of war. 
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PainterofCrap posted:Hate to tell you that acts of war are specifically excluded. Even more satisfying to the adjuster to say " oh yes missles are covered... Oh, but not during an act of war, either declared or implied " Although if Palestine isn't recognized as a state it may be covered as an act of rebellion or terrorism. I'm sure Israeli insurance is pretty well defined in this issue though.
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Mercury Ballistic posted:From imgur today: A quick search says it happened in Benghazi, though, so they'll probably just use a crowbar to pull it out and throw it in a river.
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Night Danger Moose posted:drat, that ugly-rear end Tron Lambo is in BC? Maybe I'll see it in person when I go back to Vancouver for Christmas. I see it in Richmond all the time. There's also an ugly rear end tron gt-r, and an ugly rear end tron maserati granturismo.
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Land Rover now has off-road cruise control so you can update your facebook or whatever while wheelin'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr_lLmWOl6w
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If operating an accelerator pedal is "workload" of any significance you shouldn't be driving period. Also lol at that last shot. Looks like they added the factory Jeep wheel-lift option. My old beater would have easily had all 4 on the ground through there.
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Motronic posted:Also lol at that last shot. Looks like they added the factory Jeep wheel-lift option. My old beater would have easily had all 4 on the ground through there. Yeah, but did it have off road cruise control? I don't think so 
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