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Ms Boods posted:
it looks more like a regular legionary helmet but all pimped out for Gladiator looks.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 10:15 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 00:21 |
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Also googling Sutton Hoo Helmet brings up a helmet(s) that look nothing like that.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 10:45 |
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My favorite mistake in Gladiator is the dude walking around in blue jeans in the background for a second or so during one of the earlier scenes, where Russell is petting a horse or something. I guess something like that is easy to miss if you aren't specifically looking for it, but you'd think they'd be extra careful about stuff like that for a "historical"/period movie.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 11:17 |
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While on Gladiator, not so irritating as i doubt anyone picked up on it outside of the behind the scenes stuff, but I like how the Germanic Tribe at the start do the same chant as heard in the 1970's film Zulu. As in it is literally the same soundboard. Pretty sure it was just a homage but fun nonetheless.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 11:37 |
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Murphy Brownback posted:My favorite mistake in Gladiator is the dude walking around in blue jeans in the background for a second or so during one of the earlier scenes, where Russell is petting a horse or something. I guess something like that is easy to miss if you aren't specifically looking for it, but you'd think they'd be extra careful about stuff like that for a "historical"/period movie. Gladiator is one huge series of irritating moments, but the biggest is the opening battle. If Maximus Dickheadus Corvinus had led a legion like that then there would have been no need for a convoluted plot to make him a gladiator. He would have been crucified, and not a single person in Rome would have thought it wrong.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 11:37 |
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I also like the Tigers that sound like Leopards. One fight i always liked was Achilles vs Boagrius https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq-uMIZGETs Straight to the point. The first mistake kills you. Mans has a new favorite as of 12:06 on Nov 12, 2014 |
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More of an irrationally irritating visual media moment: People's eyes quickly darting back and forth between the eyes of the person to whom they're speaking, especially during close ups of super intense conversations. Obviously this is how people really look at each other when they're speaking; I know that when I'm speaking with someone and I'm "looking them in the eye" I tend to switch from eye to eye without even realizing it because I'm not just going to stare at the bridge of their nose or something. But I noticed this in film and television as a kid and now I can't not notice it and it constantly pulls me out of the moment because I'm too focused on their eyes rapidly moving back and forth to pay attention to anything else. Weed seems to help with this problem.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 14:05 |
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Jedit posted:Gladiator is one huge series of irritating moments, but the biggest is the opening battle. If Maximus Dickheadus Corvinus had led a legion like that then there would have been no need for a convoluted plot to make him a gladiator. He would have been crucified, and not a single person in Rome would have thought it wrong. What did he do wrong? I figured as long as a general was winning wars and bringing glory to Rome he could get away with a whole ton of dumb poo poo.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 14:40 |
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Gatekeeper posted:I know that when I'm speaking with someone and I'm "looking them in the eye" I tend to switch from eye to eye without even realizing it because I'm not just going to stare at the bridge of their nose or something. I'm high-functioning autistic and when I was a kid I was taught to make eye contact with people by practising staring at the bridge of their nose or their eyebrows for a second or two, then glancing away or at another part of their face so they wouldn't feel uncomfortable, then repeating that. Doing that becomes second nature as you get older, but I still hadn't noticed that most people look from eye to eye until you pointed that out. Maybe more actors in films would solve your problem!
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 17:40 |
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Dr Scoofles posted:What did he do wrong? I figured as long as a general was winning wars and bringing glory to Rome he could get away with a whole ton of dumb poo poo. He accused the Caesar's son of killing the Caesar. The previous night Maximus had been named the successor to turn control of Rome back over to the Senate. When the son was told this, he killed the Caesar. The son tried to play it off like he'd died in his sleep but Maximus called him out on it so the son ordered him be put to death. As far as the son knew, he was dead. Joey Freshwater has a new favorite as of 17:50 on Nov 12, 2014 |
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MindlessHavok posted:He accused the Caesar's son of killing the Caesar. The previous night Maximus had been named the successor to turn control of Rome back over to the Senate. When the son was told this, he killed the Caesar. The son tried to play it off like he'd died in his sleep but Maximus called him out on it so the son ordered him be put to death. As far as the son knew, he was dead. But thats got nothing to do with Jedit stating he led the army wrong or something.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 17:59 |
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Nutsngum posted:But thats got nothing to do with Jedit stating he led the army wrong or something. Oh. Right.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 18:20 |
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He was leading a legion into open rebellion against the new emperor.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 19:04 |
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So I just watched Inception over the weekend after having seen Interstellar, since I haven't seen it in a while and I really do enjoy the film. However, watching it brought something up in my mind that bugged me ever since I first saw it in theaters. It's not enough to ruin my enjoyment of the film (yet), but it's like a gnawing thing in the back of my mind that I can't quite ignore. I actually posted about this in Cinema Discusso because I was wondering if anyone had an explanation as to why this happens. Obvious spoilers ahead. The issue has to do with the Kick that the cast sets up in the three stage dream. The question is in two parts: 1.) The original plan was for the Kicks to be perfectly synchronized. Eames blows up the fortress as Arthur takes out the floor of Room 528 as Yusuf drives the van off the bride. But Yusuf has no choice to drive off the bridge early to avoid getting killed by Fischer's projections. This results in Arthur's dream losing its gravity and it causes an avalanche in Eames's dream. They miss the first kick and have to catch the second kick, which is the van hitting the water. But what I've always wondered is this: Why didn't the first kick wake Arthur up? I can understand the rest of the cast, since their consciousnesses were one level down in Eames dream, but Arthur was still awake in the hotel, so I feel like the van driving off the bridge should have woken him up, which would have destabilized the Hotel dream and brought the entire plan crashing down. 2.) What was the point of Eames blowing up the fortress? By the time he sets off the charges, everyone in the fortress is already awake except for Saito, who is dead, and Cobb, who is in Limbo trying to find Saito. When Cobb and Saito meet, it's shown that they only way they can escape is to kill themselves, so it isn't as if creating a kick in the fortress would bring them back. So why bother if Arthur's kick is designed to bring them back to the Hotel dream? I'm honestly completely unaware of any explanation that reconciles these questions I have with the logic presented in the film. Is this just a case of Chris Nolan not really caring about the hard logic of the film and preferring to film stuff because it looks cool? Because that would not surprise me.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 19:35 |
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Don't they need to pair music with the Kick or something? Kick alone isn't enough?
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 20:10 |
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Mans posted:He was leading a legion into open rebellion against the new emperor. Well yeah that wouldn't fly in Rome obviously, but Jedit said something about the opening battle specifically was enough to get Maximum nailed up. I was just wondering if he was using seriously stupid formations, or if the range of the archers was treasonous, or that he was breaking some mega rule about riding horses through fire.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 20:15 |
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Aphrodite posted:Don't they need to pair music with the Kick or something? Kick alone isn't enough?
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 20:17 |
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I've no idea about why the van going off the bridge didn't wake Arthur but isn't Ariadne asleep in the fortress? She goes with Cobb to rescue Fischer from limbo after he gets shot.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 20:29 |
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Pilchenstein posted:The music is just to let the dreamers know when it's time to kick the next level down. I've no idea about why the van going off the bridge didn't wake Arthur but isn't Ariadne asleep in the fortress? She goes with Cobb to rescue Fischer from limbo after he gets shot. 1.) I'm 90% sure that she was awake when Eames blew up the fortress. 2.) If she was counting on the Fotress exploding to kick her, why did she throw herself off the balcony in Limbo? 3.) Cobb was also in Limbo with them, but he doesn't wake up from any of the kicks, including Eames's explosion. The only way he, or anyone apparently, can escape limbo is by killing themselves, which is why Ariadne and Fischer go off the balcony. This may be a ridiculously pendantic thing to get fixated on, but this is pretty much the thread for pedantic fixations so I guess it belongs here more than anywhere else!
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 20:34 |
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Strange Matter posted:I thought that too, but I don't think that's what happens for three reasons: Fischer's kick is the defibrillator Eames uses (and being thrown off the balcony), Ariadne goes over the balcony when they see the skyscrapers start collapsing in response to the fortress explosion. I'm going to have to watch the entire film again now (like I need an excuse) but having time to think about it, don't they say early on that because of the sedatives, they won't wake up from a regular kick (ie, just dropping the dreaming version of themselves) and they'll need to fall in the dream too. Which would be why Arthur doesn't wake up, assuming that's right. Unrelatedly, "I was disappointed that you tried" is one of my favourite moments in any film ever, it just sells the entire loving plot. But this isn't the thread for praise, so I'll go wipe away a tear elsewhere.
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Pilchenstein posted:Fischer's kick is the defibrillator Eames uses (and being thrown off the balcony), Ariadne goes over the balcony when they see the skyscrapers start collapsing in response to the fortress explosion. I'm going to have to watch the entire film again now (like I need an excuse) but having time to think about it, don't they say early on that because of the sedatives, they won't wake up from a regular kick (ie, just dropping the dreaming version of themselves) and they'll need to fall in the dream too. Which would be why Arthur doesn't wake up, assuming that's right. Yusuf's exact description of his compound: quote:ARTHUR The explanation that a feeling of freefall within the dream is necessary is a good one, but it isn't supported by the script as far as I can tell. EDIT: The script continues: quote:ARTHUR So there may be some support to that but it's extremely unclear. Strange Matter has a new favorite as of 21:35 on Nov 12, 2014 |
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Dr Scoofles posted:Well yeah that wouldn't fly in Rome obviously, but Jedit said something about the opening battle specifically was enough to get Maximum nailed up. I was just wondering if he was using seriously stupid formations, or if the range of the archers was treasonous, or that he was breaking some mega rule about riding horses through fire. It's been a while since I've seen it, but traditionally the Romans would never break formation and fight the bigger, stronger more ferocious Germans in single combat. They'd hide behind their big shields, let the Germans repeatedly bash their weapons against them until they tire themselves out. When the opportunity presented itself, the Romans would stab groins or legs with their swords. At the end of John Wick does he steal someone's dog from the vet. Either that or the dog scheduled to be put down. So he may have got a dog bowel cancer or something.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 21:12 |
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Mans posted:
Not that one, just before he walks into the arena he picks that helmet off a rack containing a number of them. The Sutton Hoo Helmet is sitting on the rack.
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Pilchenstein posted:I quite like the one where tough guys crack their neck from side to side before a fight. I get headaches that go away if I do that and it's way harder to do than just moving your head left and right - I end up looking like Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon. I can actually loudly crack my neck just by tilting it left or right. I am, however, not a tough guy.
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# ? Nov 12, 2014 23:46 |
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Ego-bot posted:It's been a while since I've seen it, but traditionally the Romans would never break formation and fight the bigger, stronger more ferocious Germans in single combat. They'd hide behind their big shields, let the Germans repeatedly bash their weapons against them until they tire themselves out. When the opportunity presented itself, the Romans would stab groins or legs with their swords. My friend noticed a "TO BE EUTHANIZED" stamp on the paperwork, and I imagine it might be a shelter instead of a vet (although I don't know if a shelter would have those supplies).
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# ? Nov 13, 2014 01:45 |
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Ego-bot posted:It's been a while since I've seen it, but traditionally the Romans would never break formation and fight the bigger, stronger more ferocious Germans in single combat. They'd hide behind their big shields, let the Germans repeatedly bash their weapons against them until they tire themselves out. When the opportunity presented itself, the Romans would stab groins or legs with their swords. Exactly. Maximus was basically reenacting the Battle of Teutoberg Forest, where three Roman legions were annihilated.
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# ? Nov 13, 2014 16:30 |
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In Batman Returns, the Penguin implants a device on the underside of the Batmobile that allows him to control it remotely. So, Batman is trapped inside while Penguin's on his joyride, figures out that there's something on the car that shouldn't be there, then punches through the floor of the car in order to get to it. This is the Batmobile. It is bulletproof, crash-proof, explosion-proof, but you can just bash your way through the floor like it's an ancient rusty pickup truck?
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# ? Nov 13, 2014 22:00 |
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Lamprey Cannon posted:In Batman Returns, the Penguin implants a device on the underside of the Batmobile that allows him to control it remotely. So, Batman is trapped inside while Penguin's on his joyride, figures out that there's something on the car that shouldn't be there, then punches through the floor of the car in order to get to it. This is the Batmobile. It is bulletproof, crash-proof, explosion-proof, but you can just bash your way through the floor like it's an ancient rusty pickup truck? Its the goddamn Batman!
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# ? Nov 13, 2014 22:06 |
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Lamprey Cannon posted:In Batman Returns, the Penguin implants a device on the underside of the Batmobile that allows him to control it remotely. So, Batman is trapped inside while Penguin's on his joyride, figures out that there's something on the car that shouldn't be there, then punches through the floor of the car in order to get to it. This is the Batmobile. It is bulletproof, crash-proof, explosion-proof, but you can just bash your way through the floor like it's an ancient rusty pickup truck? Maybe it's like one-way glass.
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# ? Nov 13, 2014 23:42 |
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Jedit posted:Exactly. Maximus was basically reenacting the Battle of Teutoberg Forest, where three Roman legions were annihilated.
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# ? Nov 13, 2014 23:56 |
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Lamprey Cannon posted:Batman Returns There's a lot of goofy and illogical poo poo in Batman Returns.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 00:32 |
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BiggerBoat posted:There's a lot of goofy and illogical poo poo in Batman Returns. I'm not sure if this is irrationally irritating or irrationally wonderful.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 01:38 |
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Didn't he just lead the cops to his lair in that scene? Wouldn't they trawl the water for his body and find the tunnel? God the Tim Burton movies are so much worse than everyone remembers them to be.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 02:16 |
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They are which is why it's impressive how much better they are than the Nolan movies.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 02:18 |
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mind the walrus posted:They are which is why it's impressive how much better they are than the Nolan movies. Fixed that for you.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 02:28 |
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mind the walrus posted:They are which is why it's impressive how much better they are than the Nolan movies. I can never hate the Nolan movies because they somehow made audiences laugh at a terrorist blowing up a hospital. I can even overlook the not-so-subtle conservative praise in the movies. Which leads me to my own irritating movie thing: The Nolan Batman flicks are just huge, sloppy blowjobs to the conservative mindset. "OH NO! TERRORIST IS OUT AND ABOUT! BETTER SPY ON THE ENTIRE CITY TO FIND HIM!" "OH NO! THOSE
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 06:05 |
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I love that batman made a whole thing about tapping phones, but in Avengers it's a throw away line that SHIELD monitors basically everything.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 06:48 |
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Screaming Idiot posted:I can never hate the Nolan movies because they somehow made audiences laugh at a terrorist blowing up a hospital. I can even overlook the not-so-subtle conservative praise in the movies.
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# ? Nov 14, 2014 08:54 |
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Screaming Idiot posted:"OH NO! TERRORIST IS OUT AND ABOUT! BETTER SPY ON THE ENTIRE CITY TO FIND HIM!"
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If people going "meh" at having their civil right violated so they can be spied upon to ensure their own safety led us to Person of Interest, then keep spying Obama because I really like Person of Interest.
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