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LordPants posted:One of Love & Rockets' most endearing features is the way they straight up pretened that wrestling is real. That's just a german suplex, and as someone that's been dropped on their head in (submission) wrestling competition, I can confirm that it's very real. Bohemian Nights fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Nov 15, 2014 |
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LordPants posted:One of Love & Rockets' most endearing features is the way they straight up pretened that wrestling is real. pretty sure if you execute a german suplex on concrete your opponent IS going out.
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Nov 15, 2014 13:52
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Possibly in a body bag.
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Probably in a wheelchair.
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Nov 15, 2014 14:02
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It's not the greatest example, I know, because a German suplex/belly to back suplex is something that is 'real', but it has a whole different context within pro-wrestling where it is incredibly 'fake' with someone going up for the move to help you look good when you do it. In terms of how this comic is presented (with professional wrestling being 'real'), it's like if John Cena got into a fight and gave someone an attitude adjustment and knocked them out cold. Only she's probably more of a bad-rear end than John Cena. 
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Nov 15, 2014 14:16
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The suplex is a real thing that is used by Olympic wrestlers.
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Nov 15, 2014 14:23
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The pro-wrestling context kind of cheapens it, imo. It'd be cooler if it was just a wrasslin' lady using a legit technique to dump a chump on his head-- which is really all you see on that page, and it's probably better for it. e: too many words, not enough badass panels. I'm a sucker for more grounded fighting, so have some all rounder meguru:  http://imgur.com/a/F9abM also:  
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Nov 15, 2014 14:42
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Lurdiak posted:Those pages are the raddest thing I've seen in a DC book in a long, long time. My irrational hatred of anime caused me to close this book at the hipster otaku shopkeeper and drop the series again. gently caress is that insufferable.
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Nov 15, 2014 17:13
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That's just silly. You're silly.
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Soonmot posted:My irrational hatred of anime caused me to close this book at the hipster otaku shopkeeper and drop the series again. gently caress is that insufferable.
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Nov 15, 2014 19:06
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I'm more offended* that a Smart Independent Heroine had to panic and regress to memories of a children's cartoon to come up with one of the oldest and simplest plans in the book for dealing with two dumb enemies riding motorcycles in a predictable pattern * not actually offended at all but it's still silly
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Nov 15, 2014 19:19
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I read issue 35 and didn't understand a drat thing, there were a lot of characters that were just there and now barbara has that bullshit cbs procedural eidetic memory thing which looks so dumb. The art was fun and the explanation for the new costume was rad, I'll give it that. I did have a bad day when I read it do maybe its more on me, but it's not as new-reader friendly as some people might say.
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Nov 15, 2014 19:19
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It's almost like the comic isn't aimed at grown-rear end men anymore.
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Vincent posted:I read issue 35 and didn't understand a drat thing, there were a lot of characters that were just there and now barbara has that bullshit cbs procedural eidetic memory thing which looks so dumb. The art was fun and the explanation for the new costume was rad, I'll give it that. She's always had eidetic memory, or at least she did when she was Oracle I thought.
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Nov 15, 2014 19:24
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Lurdiak posted:It's almost like the comic isn't aimed at grown-rear end men anymore. Counterpoint: DC hasn't made a real effort to sell comics to kids in loving forever.
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Boogaleeboo posted:Possibly in a body bag. No, that's only if you turn your back on the Wolfpac.
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Lurdiak posted:It's almost like the comic isn't aimed at grown-rear end men anymore. Well, what if I want to read Batgirl huh? It's misandry I tell ya! #batgirlgate Seriously though, is there a re-cap somewhere that I can read to get up to speed and give the issue another go?
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I thought Barbara and Black Canary's dialogue was enough to set it up, but maybe #34 helps.
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Like I said, I followed 35 just fine jumping I am cold. The last thing I've read with Barbara in it was Black Mask, Killing Joke before that, so I don't really know anything about her. The only thing I've read with Black Canary was Longbow Hunters years ago. I wasn't confused by anything and figured I'd pick up on who all the characters are as the series goes on from context clues.
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Yeah, I mean, I kinda know that the New52 set-up has Barbara and Dinah hating each other for some reason (because girls can't be FRIENDS, lol  ). They just barely got along out of necessity in the early issues of the relaunch Birds of Prey. The eidetic memory thing has been part of the character for ages, it's just that no-one really used it for more than a convenient excuse for her to be able to spout exposition until now.
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Lurdiak posted:It's almost like the comic isn't aimed at grown-rear end men anymore. Nope. I'm glad Academy and this new Batgirl are there, but they really are not anything I can drum up enthusiasm for outside of bringing in new fans. I am a bit miffed that, without the anime poo poo and if the hipster poo poo was toned down a bit, there's no reason this couldn't have been a Stephanie Brown Batgirl, but that's more of a problem I have with the overall nu52. I was just kind of hopeful that with Wonder Woman and Red Lanterns ending, these new bat books would keep me reading some non-Vertigo DC.
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drat kids get off my Batgirl  
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Small Frozen Thing posted:drat kids get off my Batgirl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sJRkj9DP9Y
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Soonmot posted:Nope. I'm glad Academy and this new Batgirl are there, but they really are not anything I can drum up enthusiasm for outside of bringing in new fans. I am a bit miffed that, without the anime poo poo and if the hipster poo poo was toned down a bit, there's no reason this couldn't have been a Stephanie Brown Batgirl, but that's more of a problem I have with the overall nu52. I was just kind of hopeful that with Wonder Woman and Red Lanterns ending, these new bat books would keep me reading some non-Vertigo DC. I kinda agree with you. It feels very twee. I guess it's just not for me.
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We're not doing that anymore. Soonmot posted:Nope. I'm glad Academy and this new Batgirl are there, but they really are not anything I can drum up enthusiasm for outside of bringing in new fans. I am a bit miffed that, without the anime poo poo and if the hipster poo poo was toned down a bit, there's no reason this couldn't have been a Stephanie Brown Batgirl, but that's more of a problem I have with the overall nu52. I was just kind of hopeful that with Wonder Woman and Red Lanterns ending, these new bat books would keep me reading some non-Vertigo DC. Honestly, considering it's a bit of a shift for Barbara too, you could pretty easily sub in Steph and her mother for Babs and Jim, and I'm not sure much would be lost, and they could've kept Oracle, thus getting two marketable characters for the price of one I wonder how open they're going to be to revisiting some of these ditched legacy things if the tie-ins to Convergence do well.
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 Wonder Woman as drawn by Gilbert Hernandez, ladies and gentlemen. Re:Batgirl, the leap from Simone's New 52 incarnation to issue #35 has been nothing but upgrades, in my opinion. From the (colorful!) art to the (creative!) layouts to giving Babs a social life, I am an enthusiastic subscriber. As for the criticism that she should call in favors to get a large hard drive, some guy on campus loaned her a hard drive, no Bat required. Gotham Academy, on the other hand... I'm down for the premise and beautiful art, but two issues in I still can't piece the scenes together. As in, I can tell where the series seems to be going but the story isn't getting told nearly well enough to get there. It reminds me a bit of Pretty Deadly in that regard, with each issue making me think, "This is fun to look at, but what the hell is everyone talking about?"
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Gaz-L posted:We're not doing that anymore. It's Babs because Geoff Johns hates Stephanie Brown with a passion. 4 loving Robins in the New 52 (guess which one's missing) and only one Batgirl.
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Space Fish posted:As for the criticism that she should call in favors to get a large hard drive, some guy on campus loaned her a hard drive, no Bat required. I mean, I'm okay with how the story plays out, you just need ignore that some of her problems could be solved with a call to Bruce, just like a lot of Batman's problems could be solved by a call to Superman.
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Space Fish posted:
This is so true. Simone's Batgirl was just straight up poo poo. This new one, while I dislike it, is an actual good book. Just one that doesn't appeal to me. For badassitude: Fastball special Captain Marvel/Hulk edition from the Avengers: The Last White Event trade. EDIT: Not badassed: Hyperion's silly scream when being blasted in the middle panel
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Soonmot posted:For badassitude: Fastball special Captain Marvel/Hulk edition from the Avengers: The Last White Event trade. I'm not super familiar with current Marvel stuff- is that Captain Marvel throwing Hulk from space? I'm going to need some context here.
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New Leaf posted:I'm not super familiar with current Marvel stuff- is that Captain Marvel throwing Hulk from space? I'm going to need some context here. Yes. She's throwing him at Starbrand. Hickman's Avengers run is super good.
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Uthor posted:I mean, I'm okay with how the story plays out, you just need ignore that some of her problems could be solved with a call to Bruce, just like a lot of Batman's problems could be solved by a call to Superman. I am shocked, shocked, that the teenager/young adult would try to solve problems on her own (even if it's less than ideal) rather than ask a father figure to solve all her problems for her.
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Cpt. Marvel's mask is so bitchin
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Cpt. Marvel's mask is so bitchin Eh, I think it looks pretty silly, but I hate Captain Britain's stupid helmet and boots too, and everyone loves those. (The rest of the costume is awesome, and I think there's a reason McKelvie's original design doesn't have the mask. He's really good at this sort of thing, so don't mess with it.) Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Nov 18, 2014 |
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New Leaf posted:I'm not super familiar with current Marvel stuff- is that Captain Marvel throwing Hulk from space? I'm going to need some context here. Starbrand manifested his powers, killing hundreds of people. When the Avengers arrived, he accidentally blasts the Hulk into space. Captain Marvel flys up to retrieve him, and a bad rear end moment happens.
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Wait, is the the same Starbrand from New Universe/New Universal/etc?
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Heresiarch posted:Wait, is the the same Starbrand from New Universe/New Universal/etc?
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Heresiarch posted:Wait, is the the same Starbrand from New Universe/New Universal/etc? No. Hickman's Avengers is using a lot of New Universal ideas, but they're not the same people. There's a Nightmask too.
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Doesn't that mean the answer to his question is yes?
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Gaz-L posted:Eh, I think it looks pretty silly, but I hate Captain Britain's stupid helmet and boots too, and everyone loves those. Yeah, sorry but the horse mane is uggo and the rest of the mask looks like it belongs on a nu52 Dark Flash.
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