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Shinichi consumed most of his fat stores while lying passed down on the wooden floor. That's also going to make you look more defined. Also, I'd like to say that this show has some excellent direction. It's not ostentatious, no fancy angles, just really good composition and timings. It really brings out the trauma of the characters and the sheer energy and anger that Shinichi has.
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I like it when Migi says water is cold
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All I have to say is he could've named his right-hand Rosey. Migi is so prosaic. Really. After last week's episode, I had to hunt down the manga and then I read the the whole drat thing in a couple of days. I will say I did enjoy it, and I wouldn't have known about the manga without this show. Also, the manga ended (ed:corrected) Dan7el fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Nov 14, 2014 00:24
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What? The manga ended in 1995.
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I can't wait to meet (manga spoiler) Chinny! 
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ViggyNash posted:More so at how gaunt he looked right after he woke up. Jesus christ, yeah, he turned into loving Emiya Kiritsugu for a good chunk of the episode.  I have to admit, though, I would have been down with that as a permanent character design change.Also if you don't like Migi you're literally hitler, Migi is the best 
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God this show is so fantastic, I gotta thank my friend for recommending it to me. From that conversation in the hotel room last episode, I'm getting the feeling that some of Shinichi's emotions might have started to bleed into Migi's personality much like Migi's abilities basically turned Shinichi into spiderman.
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Migi is like a combination of meth and roids.
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Phobophilia posted:Shinichi consumed most of his fat stores while lying passed down on the wooden floor. That's also going to make you look more defined. The directing seems straightforwards, but solid. It's really the animation direction that's really stealing the show. All those little details would have been easy to miss if not handled well - or on the other side of the spectrum they could have been annoyingly blatant - but they managed to present them all effectively and efficiently.
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Mercrom posted:Migi isn't a character as much as an exposition machine and high school philosophy class who constantly follows the main character You complain about Migi's lack of development and yet you completely miss the changes it went through in this episode. Good job.
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Ryas posted:You complain about Migi's lack of development and yet you completely miss the changes it went through in this episode. Good job. Also I didn't see any evidence of Migi going through more than physical changes this episode. If in the future they deal with Migi gradually becoming human and developing other values that might be interesting, but that's all complete speculation right now.
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Mercrom posted:Kyubey doesn't develop at all and that might the best written character in anime. You're not helping your case with that.
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trucutru posted:You're not helping your case with that.
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Nov 14, 2014 10:49
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How about the fact that Migi decided it trusted Shinichi enough to tell him its critical weakness? Until now Migi has pretty much relied on a threat of violence to keep him in line.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:How about the fact that Migi decided it trusted Shinichi enough to tell him its critical weakness? Until now Migi has pretty much relied on a threat of violence to keep him in line.
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Mercrom posted:No matter what the author's intention is, Migi telling Shinichi their mutual fatal flaw is objectively self-serving. Even Migi's subdued tone is only evidence of caution, fear or even calculated manipulation because of Shinichi's mental trauma. There is no evidence Migi has changed other than vague stuff like the fact it absorbed part of Shinichi, and vaguer narrative hints like "If only Migi was a true ally to humanity!", or Migi once again "reassuring" Shinichi that it saved his life only because his life sustains Migi's.
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blankd posted:Migi asked if Shinichi was alright with killing his mother (now). I think that's significant.
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Mercrom posted:Migi asked the same thing about the pregnant woman. I don't exactly know what it is, but it's not new. As I wrote before it could either be voiced curiosity, a practical consideration of his resolve, or genuine empathy for Shinichi. There is no way to tell. Yeah, but.. that ambiguity is the whole point. Is Migi really being self-serving or is he just dressing it up that way and is starting to feel empathy? You could ask the same of Reiko too, is it just scientific curiosity about her baby or is that just how she rationalises her feelings? Basically all the parasites are tsundere.
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Well considering they've merged a bit more closely after getting stabbed, it isn't out of the line if their minds change a little as well.
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"I-it's not like I w-wanted to devour your central nervous system or an-anything... I just happened to be in the area. It's all a coincidence. A coincidence! You d-dummy."
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Sophism posted:"I-it's not like I w-wanted to devour your central nervous system or an-anything... I just happened to be in the area. It's all a coincidence. A coincidence! You d-dummy."  Baka!
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Sakurazuka posted:Yeah, but.. that ambiguity is the whole point. Is Migi really being self-serving or is he just dressing it up that way and is starting to feel empathy? You could ask the same of Reiko too, is it just scientific curiosity about her baby or is that just how she rationalises her feelings? One one hand, the characters clearly state that the parasites don't act out of empathy, and there is no in-universe reason for them to start acting out of empathy. Everything that has happened is perfectly consistent with this belief, and there is absolutely no rational reason for a character in the story to think otherwise. On the other hand, it makes sense for Shinichi to irrationally be grateful to Migi for saving his life, and to start irrationally trusting someone he spends every hour of every day with and who his fate is intertwined with. He is being manipulated, either by Migi or the author's narrative. If you put yourselves in the character's shoes I think it's pretty clear which belief is right. We are not characters though, and we can see the strings being pulled. In reality all aspects of the story are manipulative, and there is no actual rational interpretation. I don't personally like it, but the ambiguous interpretation is valid.
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On the third hand, Migi turned into a literal heart, and it's somewhat valid to assume the author's metaphorical intent.
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Mercrom posted:there is no in-universe reason for them to start acting out of empathy. That we know of yet.
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AnacondaHL posted:On the third hand, Migi turned into a literal heart, and it's somewhat valid to assume the author's metaphorical intent. Sakurazuka posted:That we know of yet.
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Migi knows he can bail out of Shinichi at any time and share the body of some unfortunate sap with another parasyte. This would certainly increase his fighting potential and survivability. He already knows quite well how humans behave so the fact that he's staying with Shinichi and even donating some cells to him (even if it's out of necessity) means that he has something more than pure survival in his mind.
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trucutru posted:Migi knows he can bail out of Shinichi at any time and share the body of some unfortunate sap with another parasyte. This would certainly increase his fighting potential and survivability. He already knows quite well how humans behave so the fact that he's staying with Shinichi and even donating some cells to him (even if it's out of necessity) means that he has something more than pure survival in his mind. No, he doesn't. He says so himself. He knows he could certainly try, but there is a very low guarantee it would work because he only knows how to be an arm.
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Migi's observed another parasyte directly bodyjacking Shinichi's mother. Migi is quite capable of putting two plus two together at this point. Parasytes rely on a host, but not any one host. Migi considered jumping ship from Shinichi in the past. He is less likely to consider it in the future.
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ViggyNash posted:No, he doesn't. He says so himself. He knows he could certainly try, but there is a very low guarantee it would work because he only knows how to be an arm. He's an (extremely) rational being first and foremost. He knows it can be done and that it should be even easier for him, since he's just a hand. He cannot be a head, but I am talking about sharing a host with another parasite.
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trucutru posted:He's an (extremely) rational being first and foremost. He knows it can be done and that it should be even easier for him, since he's just a hand. He cannot be a head, but I am talking about sharing a host with another parasite. Still, he'd be attaching himself to an unknown element. He's been with Shinichi long enough to have a reasonable idea with his behavior. By joining another parasite, he could end up with a "host" that's as batshit as A-san.
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He has another valid reason not to jump. Since Shinichi is human, he can be influenced by words, so Migi has some measure of control over their actions. However, if another parasyte was in charge of the brain, Migi could only influence its actions as far as rational discussion can take him, which might be absolutely nowhere.
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Also, now he's integrated himself so much with his host, odds are a body-jump is no longer an option. It's implied the surgery he did on Shinichi was pretty unprecedented.
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Their entire race and everything about them is unprecedented. 
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One of the main themes of the story is the concept of tabula rasa.
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AnacondaHL posted:On the third hand, Migi turned into a literal heart, and it's somewhat valid to assume the author's metaphorical intent. I thought the spoiler word was going to be penis.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:How about the fact that Migi decided it trusted Shinichi enough to tell him its critical weakness? Until now Migi has pretty much relied on a threat of violence to keep him in line. Oh and the fact that losing your right arm would terribly, terribly inconvenient for Shinichi. I thought he also hinted that Migi is pretty much the only thing that can fight the aliens and stop them apart from burning the world down ofc.
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Alder posted:Oh and the fact that losing your right arm would terribly, terribly inconvenient for Shinichi. I thought he also hinted that Migi is pretty much the only thing that can fight the aliens and stop them apart from burning the world down ofc. Nah, he is the only thing that can find them. The parasites don't have any convenient immunity to bullets and they die if their host does unless they can jump ship in time.
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Phobophilia posted:Migi's observed another parasyte directly bodyjacking Shinichi's mother. Migi is quite capable of putting two plus two together at this point. Parasytes rely on a host, but not any one host. The parasyte that bodyjacking Shinichi's mother was already a head-parasite though. Sure, he might be able to get on as a hand with someone else, but what benefit would that give him? And its pretty apparent the parasites have virtually no loyalty to each other as a species.
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Angry Grimace posted:The parasyte that bodyjacking Shinichi's mother was already a head-parasite though. Sure, he might be able to get on as a hand with someone else, but what benefit would that give him? And its pretty apparent the parasites have virtually no loyalty to each other as a species. Two parasytes cooperating in the same body can deal with more stuff than a single one and, since they are not competing for the same spot, it is pretty logical to team-up to improve your survivability, which is all they are supposed to care about.
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